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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pervy Kakashi View Post
    Dam thr sage is gonna be a gingerv
    And so? Whats your point?
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    please correct me if im wrong but isn't the sage the prefect union between uchiha and senju
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by lordmadarauchiha View Post
    please correct me if im wrong but isn't the sage the prefect union between uchiha and senju
    Yes, but the Sage himself came from the Uzumaki Clan, it was his unique genetic composition (which was altered when he sealed the Juubi inside himself) that was passed down to his two sons. But Rikudou prior to sealing the Juubi inside himself, belonged to the Uzumaki clan.
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Yes, but the Sage himself came from the Uzumaki Clan, it was his unique genetic composition (which was altered when he sealed the Juubi inside himself) that was passed down to his two sons. But Rikudou prior to sealing the Juubi inside himself, belonged to the Uzumaki clan.
    interesting and convincing but no i do not thinks so hopefully it will be explained
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Naruto 572 page 12 Kurama says the Old Man(SO6P) WAS tacking about Naruto the one to show them what true power is, The legacy pass on from one Uzumaki to a noter Uzumaki.
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    Naruto 572 page 12 Kurama says the Old Man(SO6P) WAS tacking about Naruto the one to show them what true power is, The legacy pass on from one Uzumaki to a noter Uzumaki.
    Indeed, indeed
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    How long did this take you ?
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

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    How long did this take you ?
    Can't remember
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

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    And so? Whats your point?
    Lmfao he believes that Gingers (redheads) have no souls..smh lmfao
     
         

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    Lmfao he believes that Gingers (redheads) have no souls..smh lmfao
    Oh yeah, South Park! lol
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Good theory... Doesn't bring together byakugan's evolution to sharingan. You should update that just for completeness. Heard one of sage marrying an Hyuuga woman and it had pretty good logic.
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Great work, good stuff. Didnt have time to read all of it and only made it to point 6, ill come back to read the rest later, but what I read so far was great.

    With that said I only have 2 qualms with your theory and the 2nd one isnt really with your theory but with plot no jutsu:

    1) I dont think Mito Uzimaki was imported just to be the jinchuriki, based on how Madara said it her being jinchuriki was a last minute thing because she became jinchuriki during Madara Battle with Hashirama in order to keep Madara from further using the Kyubi, the Battle didnt last the amount of time it would have taken for her to be transported. I think her being Jinchuriki was just a happy coincedence.

    2) If the SO6P Developed ninjutsu and then passed it down to the Uchiha and Senju giving some fuinjutsu to the Uzimaki then how and where did all the other villages get there ninjutsu from.

    Found the answer to #2 here
     
         
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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Rep my friend
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by FearxDeath View Post
    Great work, good stuff. Didnt have time to read all of it and only made it to point 6, ill come back to read the rest later, but what I read so far was great.

    With that said I only have 2 qualms with your theory and the 2nd one isnt really with your theory but with plot no jutsu:

    1) I dont think Mito Uzimaki was imported just to be the jinchuriki, based on how Madara said it her being jinchuriki was a last minute thing because she became jinchuriki during Madara Battle with Hashirama in order to keep Madara from further using the Kyubi, the Battle didnt last the amount of time it would have taken for her to be transported. I think her being Jinchuriki was just a happy coincedence.

    2) If the SO6P Developed ninjutsu and then passed it down to the Uchiha and Senju giving some fuinjutsu to the Uzimaki then how and where did all the other villages get there ninjutsu from.

    Found the answer to #2 here
    Yes Rikudou spread the "gospel" of Ninshu just like Jesus
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    maybe an uchiha and senju got it on and produced something that got it on with something else and that was known as uzumaki? maybe uzumaki is a clan that decended from the 2 or one of the 2 that would mean uzumakis are related to 6paths
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    I thought the sage was the prefect genetic make-up of senju and uchiha and the juubi gave birth to the sharingan then the bakugan came along late down the line
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry Ninja View Post
    maybe an uchiha and senju got it on and produced something that got it on with something else and that was known as uzumaki? maybe uzumaki is a clan that decended from the 2 or one of the 2 that would mean uzumakis are related to 6paths
    No, the Uzumakis were the original bloodline.
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Excellent theory! :o
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

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    Excellent theory! :o
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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    i love your theory, you really took time for this. a certified naruto addict hehehe. i agree with you that most likely the rikodou sennin was an uzumaki. good job.
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by karay View Post
    i love your theory, you really took time for this. a certified naruto addict hehehe. i agree with you that most likely the rikodou sennin was an uzumaki. good job.
    Thank you!
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    The whole theory and explanation is great and i do agree with you! This thread is great!

    But what i dont completely understand is where you say that the rinnegan comes about through the juubi. Madara and Obito both awaken the rinnegan without every coming into contact with it, let alone becoming its jinchuurichi
    Its stated that to get the rinnegan you need the body of a senju and the eyes of an uchiha, not just uchiha dna although it could be argued that by having uchiha dna that you basically do have the sharingan.
    If what youre saying is true, and the uzumaki bloodline is what the senju and uchiha bloodlines are derived from, doesnt that mean that the uzumaki possess the dna of the uchiha and thus the ability to awaken the sharigan?
    Nagato, being of uzumaki lineage, has the senju body part of the rinnegan down, and through Madara's eyes being implanted in him, he gains the other requirement to awaken the rinnegan, which he succeeds in doing.

    However, and this is only my highly unlikely idle speculation, but i think that the so6p was indeed uzumaki and that he had his children with a hyuuga woman (this adds a link to with the current storyline ie naruhina as well as the fact that rarely brought up fact that the sharingan is a mutation of the byakugan).

    I'm still trying to compensate for the fact the sage is always depicted to have rinnegan with the inferrence that he used his occular prowess and sealing techniques to become its jinchuurichi. Its so very extreme but maybe the sage's wife gave him her byakugan, or more advanced byakugam (which ive seen mentioned in a couple threads but i still dont know what it is), thus combining with his already strong uzumaki body to awaken the rinnegan with which he uses to become the juubi jinchuurichi.

    In terms of the distribution of power i agree that the very powerful sealing techniques would have only been shared with the same bloodline as him (wanted to say same clan but yeah), and that the physical attributes that are attained from parents in children would be continued, with his strong uzumaki body manifesting in the senju (possibly have stronger bodies and more stamina than uzumaki's as seen by Hashirama "rousing" his chakra and making a room come apart, something that naruto, of uzumaki blood is not once seen doing. in my opinion it could be that the physical strength of the juubi in combination with the body of the uzumaki is what creates this power) and his occular prowess manifesting in the uchiha, with the origin of the sharingan being the same as what you stated in your OP. Initially, the swirl pattern originally coming from the interaction of juubi eye chakra with his mothers byakugan, By having their mother as a hyuuga, i allow the statement that the sharingan is a mutation of the byakugan to become true. Ie, the swirl pattern is a combination of the juubi's eye and its chakra with the byakugan that mutates to form the sharingan when strong feelings of hatred are fostered.

    This is the very brief course of events that i think happened
    So6p Gets wifes eyes>gets juubi>has kids>nearing the end of lifespan split juubi into bijuu. Compensates for the fact he has white hair whenever hes depicted, probably he had characteristically red hair of the uzumaki which turned white upon massive exertion, for example splitting the juubi into bijuu, similar to how Nagato's hair turns white after resurrected a bunch of leaf villagers.
    This does seem weird to me because he would have had to do her when she didnt have eyes which seems weird but its fiction so whatever, anything to progress the plot.

    Tell me if you think theres anything ive missed or if theres any flaws in my logic Thoroughly enjoyed your OP mate
     
         
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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    He had two sons, one would be the "father" of the Uchihas, the other the "father" of the senju clan...
    The Uzumaki are long distanced relatives of the senju, so share the relationship to the younger son of the so6p with the senju...
    the sage wasnt a uchiha or senju/uzumaki, he was all of them at once :D
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Quote Originally Posted by StrifeMaccy View Post
    He had two sons, one would be the "father" of the Uchihas, the other the "father" of the senju clan...
    The Uzumaki are long distanced relatives of the senju, so share the relationship to the younger son of the so6p with the senju...
    the sage wasnt a uchiha or senju/uzumaki, he was all of them at once :D
    The Uzumaki is the original bloodline:

    Rikudou Uzumaki+Juubi = Uchiha and Senju
     
         

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    Re: The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]

    Manga Chapter 625 has the 4 Hokages standing over The Uzumaki Seal a noter clue by Kishi?
     
         

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