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    Madara killed Tobirama

    tobirama and izuna were the cause of the entire world's problems if you think about it. tobirama killed madaras brother, ruined madara and hashiramas frienship by bringing tajima and butsuma there, and kept pushing hashirama to be more ruthless against uchihas.
    i think after hashiramas death, madara went to the kinkaku force and either manipulated their general or gave them something in return for the hit on tobiramas squad. and maybe he even personally killed tobirama which explains why he never really talks about him. hashirama was the only senju worthy of respect, not that death-desecrating racist
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    M... I agree with Madara maybe going to Ginkaku and Kinkaku.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    lol at the last sentence ***** for that.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    What are you talking about?
    After this chapter you got all mad about the Uchiha being weaker than the Senju.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Tobirama was killed by the golden horn brothers...
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    What a load of bullsh*t!

    If that turns out to be true, I'll be so upset...


     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreckerplayer View Post
    Tobirama was killed by the golden horn brothers...
    Edit: The uchiha were pathetic, and they lost like cowards, deal with it!

    That's why madara got the kyuubi, because he knew he could'nt defeat him on his own.

    Hashirama made Madara's EMS look like mere contact lenses, as if it meant nothing!

    Sh*t I pressed the wrong button and replied to myself by accident.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    tobirama and izuna were the cause of the entire world's problems if you think about it. tobirama killed madaras brother, ruined madara and hashiramas frienship by bringing tajima and butsuma there, and kept pushing hashirama to be more ruthless against uchihas.
    i think after hashiramas death, madara went to the kinkaku force and either manipulated their general or gave them something in return for the hit on tobiramas squad. and maybe he even personally killed tobirama which explains why he never really talks about him. hashirama was the only senju worthy of respect, not that death-desecrating racist
    You really hate Tobirama, I have no Idea why. Tobirama > 3rd Raikage is that it? It is not like Tobirama invented FTG/Edo. It is not like he is the best Suiton user in the manga. Do I have to get Omnipotent here?
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    After this chapter you got all mad about the Uchiha being weaker than the Senju.
    nope. i merely said uchihas overall are stronger given the sheer number of top tiers in that clan compared to senju top tiers

    Tobirama was killed by the golden horn brothers...
    nowhere was this ever established and nowhere did gin and kin ever say this. meaning you LITERALLY just made that up
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Pretty sure Tobirama got gang-banged by the Hidden Cloud, willingly of course. It's not out of the question that Madara plotted revenge though.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Tobirama > 3rd Raikage is that it?
    darui is my favourite character. i dont get mad because some ******* is strong. i accept itachi is a top tier fighter and would beat both raikages. doesnt mean i have to like him

    The uchiha were pathetic, and they lost like cowards, deal with it!

    That's why madara got the kyuubi, because he knew he could'nt defeat him on his own.
    madara was ganged up on by a bajillion senjus in this chapter including both main brothers. who was the coward? senjus got off paneled and forgotten by the village they created whereas uchihas stayed top of the line elites
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    nope. i merely said uchihas overall are stronger given the sheer number of top tiers in that clan compared to senju top tiers

    nowhere was this ever established and nowhere did gin and kin ever say this. meaning you LITERALLY just made that up
    Is something in your brain not functioning right?
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    You cannot put Obito in the Uchiha top tiers. He would be dead if not for Zetsu which is Senju DNA. Infact, he is about half Senju.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    No you seem butthurt because tobirama was the one who killed izuna
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    nope. i merely said uchihas overall are stronger given the sheer number of top tiers in that clan compared to senju top tiers

    nowhere was this ever established and nowhere did gin and kin ever say this. meaning you LITERALLY just made that up
    To your first point, Kishi has already made it clear that Senju>Uchiha. Why bother trying to come up with alterior reasoning just to comfort yourself instead of facing reality? Even IF the Uchiha had more top tier ninja (which is debatable) all that means is that the Senju still had more useful ninja other than their top ones and all the Uchiha had were their top ninja but after that they were fodder. Either way, Senju>Uchiha. It's just the way it is man.

    To your second point, I'm not going to bother looking up anything to post evidence, that should be your job. But if you don't know by now that Tobirama gave his life trying to protect Hiruzen and his team from the Kin and Gin bros along with 20 other top assassin ninjas, then you haven't read enough of the manga.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    If madara wanted to kill tobirama he could have killed him afterall madara was stronger than tobirama.
    Whats the point in ploting that
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    To your first point, Kishi has already made it clear that Senju>Uchiha
    kishi has made it clear MS is pretty much only opposed in battle by hashirama alone. one guy doesnt represent an entire clans strength. uchihas have produced more top tier legends than senjus have and remained the prime elite right up till their coup and deaths. senjus were off paneled and forgotten

    t Tobirama gave his life trying to protect Hiruzen and his team from the Kin and Gin bros along with 20 other top assassin ninjas
    there is literally NOTHING suggesting kin and gin were there. we only know tobirama fought 20 cloud ninjas from kinkaku force. which is an elite force like seven swordsmen. there is no mention that kinkaku himself commanded it
    tobirama was the one who killed izuna
    the lack of medics killed izuna

    You cannot put Obito in the Uchiha top tiers. He would be dead if not for Zetsu which is Senju DNA. Infact, he is about half Senju.
    too bad i just did. obito is elite because of his eyes which are uchihas
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    that should be your job.
    when someone brings up a point the burden of proof rests on their shoulders, not the person asking for that person to support their statement
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreckerplayer View Post
    Edit: The uchiha were pathetic, and they lost like cowards, deal with it!

    That's why madara got the kyuubi, because he knew he could'nt defeat him on his own.

    Hashirama made Madara's EMS look like mere contact lenses, as if it meant nothing!

    Sh*t I pressed the wrong button and replied to myself by accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    darui is my favourite character. i dont get mad because some ******* is strong. i accept itachi is a top tier fighter and would beat both raikages. doesnt mean i have to like him

    madara was ganged up on by a bajillion senjus in this chapter including both main brothers. who was the coward? senjus got off paneled and forgotten by the village they created whereas uchihas stayed top of the line elites
    Madara certainly wasn't ganged up... The Uchiha who fought alongside him likely got fodderized by the Senju, leaving him outmatched and nearly dead... Luckily, Hashirama pardoned his life.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    kishi has made it clear MS is pretty much only opposed in battle by hashirama alone. one guy doesnt represent an entire clans strength. uchihas have produced more top tier legends than senjus have and remained the prime elite right up till their coup and deaths. senjus were off paneled and forgotten

    there is literally NOTHING suggesting kin and gin were there. we only know tobirama fought 20 cloud ninjas from kinkaku force. which is an elite force like seven swordsmen. there is no mention that kinkaku himself commanded it
    the lack of medics killed izuna

    too bad i just did. obito is elite because of his eyes which are uchihas
    Obito is elite because he is alive thanks to Senju DNA. He would have been another casualty to war, just like Izuna. All Uchiha need some pocket Senju DNA for wounds or something
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    tobi > madara
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Obito is elite because he is alive thanks to Senju DNA
    obito is elite because he is elite. zetsu is a senju clone thing and hes fodder

    Madara certainly wasn't ganged up... The Uchiha who fought alongside him likely got fodderized by the Senju, leaving him outmatched and nearly dead... Luckily, Hashirama pardoned his life.
    madara clearly had no uchiha bodies around him meaning he fought hashi and tobirama for 24 hours. if his comrades were quickly beaten then he was still alone for 23 hours against a bunch of senju
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    obito is elite because he is elite. zetsu is a senju clone thing and hes fodder

    madara clearly had no uchiha bodies around him meaning he fought hashi and tobirama for 24 hours. if his comrades were quickly beaten then he was still alone for 23 hours against a bunch of senju
    Obito is dead without Zetsu. Zetsu gives the user more chakra and strength. And the ability to rip ones arm off incase Torune touches him.
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreckerplayer View Post
    Tobirama was killed by the golden horn brothers...
    Yeah and Izuna was killed BLIND and in battle, kishi likes to back track on his work
     
         

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    Re: Madara killed Tobirama

    Madara's jealousy and grudge towards the senjus might have led to Tobiramas death. Maybe he plotted it or was involved in the ambush himself.
     
         

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