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    Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    What are your greatest political minds?


    Mine Top 3:

    1. Hashirama: This man had so much though about the shinobi world and what he was gonna do, and how he was gonna do it. He had thought of everything Tobirama established. And also, he even knew that spreading the power would stabilize the lands. Also, that if Senju and Uchiha co-existed other clans/countries would just stop.

    2. Danzo: Although the complete disgrace to the Hokages and the leaders of his village. He had a one genius mind for politics and knew it inside and out. He even took out the Sandaime Hokage, out of the competition. And then him working with Hanzo and etc. Back stabing other countries. He had a genius mind for politics

    3. Hiruzen Sarutobi/Tobirama: Both geniuses, Hiruzen basically raised the village to its prime growth, as in prosperity and etc. While Tobirama established the Organizational system.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    You? Giving credit to Danzo? I never thought I'd see the day.

    OT: I agree with these three, especially Hiruzen. He was Hokage for so long and the village thrived so that's proof he was an excellent leader
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    I think muu is up there. He had working strategies that he implemented to prosper from warring allies and enemies. Cruel, but effective.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Hashirama because he created it all... With a little help from Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Tobirama is on there. Good job.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    1.Onoki

    2.Hanzo

    3.Danzo!!!!!!oh, Danzo
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Chibiusa View Post
    You? Giving credit to Danzo? I never thought I'd see the day.

    OT: I agree with these three, especially Hiruzen. He was Hokage for so long and the village thrived so that's proof he was an excellent leader
    , I've given him credit in the things he deserves credit in xD

    Hiruzen was a excellent leader. X_X But sadly can't say the same when he came out retirement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    I think muu is up there. He had working strategies that he implemented to prosper from warring allies and enemies. Cruel, but effective.
    I don't recall Muu's political decisions, or actions. Can you please state some?
    Quote Originally Posted by HashiramaDescendant View Post
    Hashirama because he created it all... With a little help from Madara.
    Not to be a fanboy.. but there was no Madara help involved o-o
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Also Pain now that i think about it. His nation prospered with all other nations completely oblivious even of the political situation, all after liberating it from the power hungry hanzo.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Hashirama has no administrative skills, Tobirama was the one who modernized Konoha

    Tobirama>Hashirama in politics :scorps:
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Also Pain now that i think about it. His nation prospered with all other nations completely oblivious even of the political situation, all after liberating it from the power hungry hanzo.
    True, but behind Pain, the mastermind was Obito. Unless we are speaking YAHIKO. Now Yahiko i could consider a political genius, leading the akatsuki and all that stuff.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Would Nagato be a candidate ? After killing Hanzo, the Hidden Rain stayed at peace for a while right? Nagato would snuff out anyone's loyalty that came into question and anyone who infiltrated was killed. He had his twisted plans to bring peace but he did everything for peace and he went about it by any means necessary.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Also Pain now that i think about it. His nation prospered with all other nations completely oblivious even of the political situation, all after liberating it from the power hungry hanzo.
    True but Pain took over somewhat violently. A true politician could have done it through words and leadership, not just by knocking the other guy off the throne
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    True, but behind Pain, the mastermind was Obito. Unless we are speaking YAHIKO. Now Yahiko i could consider a political genius, leading the akatsuki and all that stuff.
    Nonono. I just mean in the way he led Amegakure.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by EPICMenma View Post
    1. Obito with plot no jutsu!
    2. Troll Madara!
    3. King of moth****a shinobi nation, Hashirama.
    Madara's bad political mind lead to his downfall.

    Obito is just powerhungry guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Hashirama has no administrative skills, Tobirama was the one who modernized Konoha

    Tobirama>Hashirama in politics :scorps:
    Yupp, and thats why Hashirama was the FIRST Hokage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Invsblphntm View Post
    Hiruzen - had the longest reign of peace and brung Konoha to its peak, stomped all competition

    Danzo - truly a realistic man who would do anything to help the village

    Hashirama - even though he's a moron for leaving Madara alive, he made the village so he must be decent
    "Prime Hiruzen" didn't have the longest reign of Peace. Old Hiruzen did.. but he was basically powerless as far as politics in Konoha went.

    Danzo - He was more about himself, and making the village his. Rather then about the people of the village and etc.

    Hashirama - If he had killed Madara there wouldn't have been peace.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokami View Post
    Would Nagato be a candidate ? After killing Hanzo, the Hidden Rain stayed at peace for a while right? Nagato would snuff out anyone's loyalty that came into question and anyone who infiltrated was killed. He had his twisted plans to bring peace but he did everything for peace and he went about it by any means necessary.
    He is, I acknowledge his feats now. Just had to rethink xD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Nonono. I just mean in the way he led Amegakure.
    AHHH, true true. He basically created a Naruto version of the North Korea, as in it was closed and etc. He did a good job of keeping it out of war.

    I think we can say he was more of a genius then Itachi.
     
         
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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Hashirama is an idealist which is stupid in terms of politics, Tobirama was a realist, a strategist and a good administrator.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Invsblphntm View Post
    Hiruzen had the longest reigning peace, manga fact. The rest doesn't matter.


    Danzo is realistic, a lot of characters lack that in this story and it is absolutely necessary. And for give me that bs about him caring about himself. He died for Konoha.

    Hashirama, the moron, could've stopped the Juubi's uprising. If he killed Madara, all he had to do was fodderize a few Uchiha and get the new leader to make the village. Madara was a lost cause and right now he's started the worst situation ever seen in history.
    During a time where he got a Konoha clan massacred.... Hiruzen as a political genius is basically referring to his first reign as a Hokage. Where he actually had political power. Instead of letting the other 3 tell him what to do.

    Danzo- So Hitler, Stalin more realistic then Gandhi?

    Hashirama- Go read the manga. Hashirama didn't kill him for a reason. Killing others wouldn't have made a peace. Peace comes from non-violence not violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Hashirama is an idealist which is stupid in terms of politics, Tobirama was a realist, a strategist and a good administrator.
    He sure made the "realist" Tobirama look stupid:


     
         
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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Hashirama is an idealist which is stupid in terms of politics, Tobirama was a realist, a strategist and a good administrator.
    Hashirama was like the Martin Luther King Jr of the Narutoverse. He believed all clans are created equal and should be able to live together in a village in harmony lol

    True Hashi was an idealist but his dreams led the way to reality. Tobirama just had the political skills to actually make it work
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    hashi/tobir=juubi and 4 war
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Hashirama is an idealist which is stupid in terms of politics, Tobirama was a realist, a strategist and a good administrator.
    tobirama and hashi=all bad in narutoverse
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Chibiusa View Post
    Hashirama was like the Martin Luther King Jr of the Narutoverse. He believed all clans are created equal and should be able to live together in a village in harmony lol

    True Hashi was an idealist but his dreams led the way to reality. Tobirama just had the political skills to actually make it work
    M.L.K wouldn't be the right analogy
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    hashi/tobir=juubi and 4 war
    Madara and Obito and Danzo = 4th War

    The retarded countries who fought over bijuus after Hashirama's death = Juubi.
     
         
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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Hashirama is a political doofus, he even ostracized Tobirama when he viewed his measures as "oppression" to the Uchihas wherein Tobirama put him in his place by saying he of all people should know the Uchihas have the curse if hatred



    Hashirama was politically inept.
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Madara and Obito and Danzo = 4th War
    their system has led to the birth of danzo,madara and obito
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Hashirama is a political doofus, he even ostracized Tobirama when he viewed his measures as "oppression" to the Uchihas wherein Tobirama put him in his place by saying he of all people should know the Uchihas have the curse if hatred



    Hashirama was politically inept.
    Tobirama put him in his place? LMAOOO.

    Also, the very thing Hashirama was trying to get rid of was the "Curse of hatred".. which Tobirama increased. Yess very great political mind... give the people you are oppressing more reason to go against you. Real political genius. I bet you prefer Danzo over Hiruzen also huh

    Quote Originally Posted by freaks99 View Post
    their system has led to the birth of danzo,madara and obito

    Hashirama's system led to peace. =]

    During Hashirama living there was peace. After his death... the idiotic countries waged war for power. Kumo especially.

    Danzo was created on his own...

    Hashirama's system is that of peace and love.. LMAO. Understand the system before talking about it.
     
         
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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    What are your greatest political minds?


    Mine Top 3:

    1. Hashirama: This man had so much though about the shinobi world and what he was gonna do, and how he was gonna do it. He had thought of everything Tobirama established. And also, he even knew that spreading the power would stabilize the lands. Also, that if Senju and Uchiha co-existed other clans/countries would just stop.

    2. Danzo: Although the complete disgrace to the Hokages and the leaders of his village. He had a one genius mind for politics and knew it inside and out. He even took out the Sandaime Hokage, out of the competition. And then him working with Hanzo and etc. Back stabing other countries. He had a genius mind for politics

    3. Hiruzen Sarutobi/Tobirama: Both geniuses, Hiruzen basically raised the village to its prime growth, as in prosperity and etc. While Tobirama established the Organizational system.
    Hashirama a good political mind? Let me keep Madara alive.....oh look 4th shinobi world war, Uchiha Massacre, Juubi, and Hashi clones
     
         

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    Re: Greatest political minds of NARUTO

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    Hashirama a good political mind? Let me keep Madara alive.....oh look 4th shinobi world war, Uchiha Massacre, Juubi, and Hashi clones
    SO6P responsible for Madara's actions to right.. since he defined chakra. And gave birth to the older son. He could've killed the older son.. but he didn't now did he. Because he believed in LOVE

    When you betray your believes that is when you betray yourself.
     
         

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