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    Tobirama>MS Madara?

    For those of you who read the most recent chapter in the manga (obviously those who have not should leave)

    Tobirama Kills Izuna


    According to different accounts we have heard, Madara and Izuna were nearly EQUIVALENT in power

    As we have seen with Sasuke and Itachi, people of like blood develop mangekyou sharingans with similar abilities (both sasuke and Itachi can both use tsukyomi, amaterasu, and susano'o).

    Madara doesn't haven any special MS techniques (e.i Kamui, Koto Amatsukami). Given this, its probably a safe bet that izuna didn't either.

    Any way, It appears that Tobirama defeated Izuna by a large margin, so even if madara is SLIGHTLY stronger than his brother, Tobirama still might edge out.

    I am NOT saying that tobirama could defeat EMS madara, or madara with kyuubi, but i believe that Izuna DID have the ability to use tsukyomi, Susano'o and (maybe) amaterasu. Seeing that tobirama defeated Izuna, i believe it is safe to say that Tobirama CAN defeat MS Madara (I do not know if Perfect Susano'o is an EMS technique or just a MS technique, or whether Izuna could use it or not)

    What do you guys think? i know its far fetched, but we don't know just how strong tobirama was (after all he WAS hashi's brother), he had a spacetime ninjutsu and we don't know how much weaker Madara is without izunas eyes.

    Just tell me if you think my evidence is fairly rational or if not, why?
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Nice A>B>C logic.

    He does but that's not why he can beat him.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    In my opinion it seems rational to me. We don't know enough about Tobirama though.
    I think he very well could beat MS Madara. :D
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Tobirama has more beastly tech than MS Madara, so he has a chance. Now in terms of Ems and Madara with kyuubi, that will remain debatable for now.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    madara rapes tobimara/alone hashimara can beat him
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    No he cant. Izuna n tobirama had there little fued from kids there sword clashing etc. Tobirama just got the best outta izuna. But hashirama needs to fight madara. Tobirama cannot beat ms madara.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    EMS Madara could use Perfect Susanoo to take Tobirama out.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    It's really surprising how everyone is so concerned about tobirama after he pwned izuna, tobirama threads r everywhere
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    MS Madara...most likely
    EMS Madara...no chance
     
         

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    i think they are equals but tobirama falls slightly short of EMS madara with kyuubi

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    No he cant. Izuna n tobirama had there little fued from kids there sword clashing etc. Tobirama just got the best outta izuna. But hashirama needs to fight madara. Tobirama cannot beat ms madara.
    how so? he defeated his slightly weaker than him brother
     
         
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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    That would be understandable.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Quote Originally Posted by Derek1st View Post
    For those of you who read the most recent chapter in the manga (obviously those who have not should leave)

    Tobirama Kills Izuna


    According to different accounts we have heard, Madara and Izuna were nearly EQUIVALENT in power

    As we have seen with Sasuke and Itachi, people of like blood develop mangekyou sharingans with similar abilities (both sasuke and Itachi can both use tsukyomi, amaterasu, and susano'o).

    Madara doesn't haven any special MS techniques (e.i Kamui, Koto Amatsukami). Given this, its probably a safe bet that izuna didn't either.

    Any way, It appears that Tobirama defeated Izuna by a large margin, so even if madara is SLIGHTLY stronger than his brother, Tobirama still might edge out.

    I am NOT saying that tobirama could defeat EMS madara, or madara with kyuubi, but i believe that Izuna DID have the ability to use tsukyomi, Susano'o and (maybe) amaterasu. Seeing that tobirama defeated Izuna, i believe it is safe to say that Tobirama CAN defeat MS Madara (I do not know if Perfect Susano'o is an EMS technique or just a MS technique, or whether Izuna could use it or not)

    What do you guys think? i know its far fetched, but we don't know just how strong tobirama was (after all he WAS hashi's brother), he had a spacetime ninjutsu and we don't know how much weaker Madara is without izunas eyes.

    Just tell me if you think my evidence is fairly rational or if not, why?

    tobirama was a beast so yeah i think he was stronger then ms madara, but ems is stoger then the second
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    well Izuna and Madara were about equal before he got EMS. its is true that A>B>C isn't logical but clearly with out EMS he could be beaten by Tobirama or at least on par.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    All uchihas are basically weaker than the senjus until they implant 2 more sharingan eyes to get EMS, with the exception of the almighty Obito with his omnipotent kamui eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Chances are 50/50 it can go both ways
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    have to agree.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Seriously??? Is this a joke?
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Quote Originally Posted by God Itachi View Post
    Seriously??? Is this a joke?
    No he is quite serious and most people including me agree with him, Ems Madara however would likely fodderize Tobirama
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    Laugh; The surge of Tobirama fanboys and **** riding, hop off the bandwagon.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama>MS Madara?

    All uchihas are basically weaker than the senjus until they implant 2 more sharingan eyes to get EMS, with the exception of the almighty Obito with his omnipotent kamui eyes.
     
         

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