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    Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    ive noticed a lack of understanding about will of fire and konoha's beliefs on this board.

    "All the same, Sasuke is a ninja belonging to the Hidden Leaf Village; he's a comrade, and I'll put my life on the line to help him. That's the way of our village".
    are you listening itachi? i thought not. your response when you meet a comrade is torture them into a coma (kakashi), mindrape and manipulate them into killing more comrades (sasuke), or flat out commit genocide when killing much less people has the same result and better consequences, or ignore them and leave them to suffer and die (anko). never did he demonstrate any understanding or genuine concern for individual ninjas.

    danzo (brainwashing, stealing eyes), sasuke (trying to kill his friends, joining hiruzen's killer for power) are just as bad. none of them believe in WoF or protecting people. itachi demonstrated how vicious he could be to his own people already, using sadistic mental torture. yet people still claim hes a good guy and has WoF. all his actions go against that entire philosophy. as does his belief that the ONLY way he thinks sauske will ever catch up and become powerful is through hatred, anger, rage, loneliness, suffering, pain and torment. because thats TOTALLY sane and in line with how konoha does things. is it any wonder why sasuke turned out the way he did when even his own brother puts no faith in love and loyalty?
     
         
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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Oh no. Don't insult Danzo. He was a real shinobi. He knew it wasn't all rainbows and butterflies, he did what was necessary.

    And for the last time, Itachi technically did not betray the Leaf!! Evn Danzo didn't call him a traitor until he found out Sasuke learned the truth. He did those things because it was necessary
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    what is necessary is not having WoF. konoha suvived just fine before danzo came to power
    tachi technically did not betray the Leaf!! Evn Danzo didn't call him a traitor until he found out Sasuke learned the truth. He did those things because it was necessary
    no. tortring sasuke and making him a villain was necessary? planning to brainwas and enslave sasuke was necessary?callously leaving anko to die for no reason was necessary? torturing kakahi for no reason was necessary? not killing danzo when hes hurt people as much as akatsuki has and killed spies just becue they were too good, was necessary? akatsuki was in a position to defeat konoha because itachi wasnt a competant spy
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Quote Originally Posted by Chibiusa View Post
    Oh no. Don't insult Danzo. He was a real shinobi. He knew it wasn't all rainbows and butterflies, he did what was necessary.

    And for the last time, Itachi technically did not betray the Leaf!! Evn Danzo didn't call him a traitor until he found out Sasuke learned the truth. He did those things because it was necessary
    Yup all for the greater good
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Quote Originally Posted by Chibiusa View Post
    Oh no. Don't insult Danzo. He was a real shinobi. He knew it wasn't all rainbows and butterflies, he did what was necessary.

    And for the last time, Itachi technically did not betray the Leaf!! Evn Danzo didn't call him a traitor until he found out Sasuke learned the truth. He did those things because it was necessary
    Danzo is the worse... Shisui intended to stop the uchiha coup de'tat using his kotoamatsukami... but danzo stole his sharingan...

    But itachi is a legit hero of the leaf.....
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Itachi, only did what he did, because if he didnt, the uchiha clan would be wiped out anyways, and konoha, would be devastated. At least by takeing his dark path, he managed to save all the lives of non uchiha, and was able to save 1 uchiha life. What he did was still wrong, and it makes him a villian, but his purpose was pure, and it makes him a hero. So to say he is a villain is not correct, just as to say he was a hero is not correct. He is simply in the end neutral. He has a loyal mind, but bad actions.
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    All of them suck. So6p made the wrong call, hashirama could've propose truce b4 he killed izuna, tobirama was persecuting uchihas, hiruzen didnt negotiate with fugaku, danzo arranged uchiha extermination.

    Sasuke better phuck em up and make the score even, then they can talk of true peace.
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    most of the regular shinobi from konoha are seriously two faced bastards. well most of them anyway. they have alot of missing-nins and they are also full of themselves(excluding the naruto class and their parents and the other guys with the names)

    whenever we see a nameless shinobi they just treat naruto like he was scum. also remember mizuki?

    this is why i thought that nobody sold naruto out to pain during the invasion. it was seriously unbelievable.

    also danzo was an ******* but sill he was not a traitor in a sense. he didnt left the village. he just didnt lent a hand to the village. still its treachery but not on the same level wit the missing nins.
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Sthu , Itachi was ordered to be in akatsuki, which means by that order he must play the role of villain to stay in it... Had he not act antagonist , kisame would have noticed it and then pein ..
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Nonsense. Itachi was under orders from hiruzen to join akatsuki for the soul purpose of feeding info to the village and was required to play such a role. Not even Kakashi or jiraiya was aware of this.
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    Quote Originally Posted by cptenn94 View Post
    Itachi, only did what he did, because if he didnt, the uchiha clan would be wiped out anyways, and konoha, would be devastated. At least by takeing his dark path, he managed to save all the lives of non uchiha, and was able to save 1 uchiha life. What he did was still wrong, and it makes him a villian, but his purpose was pure, and it makes him a hero. So to say he is a villain is not correct, just as to say he was a hero is not correct. He is simply in the end neutral. He has a loyal mind, but bad actions.
    Did you even read the thread? Itachi put Sasuke into a coma that Sasuke may have never recovered from. He forced his brother to relive the worst moment of his life again and again for 72 hours, wasting his eye-sight. Sasuke already hated him, and already planned to try to kill him so it was completely idiotic. He also needlessly tortured Kakashi for 72 hours, once again wasting his eyesight on the allies of Konoha. He never got any good information for the leaf.

    Like, how is any of that justified?
     
         

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    Re: Shikamaru explained why traitors have no place in Konoha

    why is trunks once again breaking the character bash rules


    my goodness i bet since naruto ends he'll still be here ranting about itachi
     
         

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