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    TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Tobi used Kamui on the Amateratsu Flames

    Much debates have come up on how Tobi escaped the “Black Flames” implanted in Sasuke to burn him up. Hopefully this will clear any speculation.




    Tobi’s right eye
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/397/3

    In this link, Obito is caught by Amateratsu while his mask is off, his right eye still has the sharigan


    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/4
    In this link we see Tobi unraveling his eye preparing to use Izanagi


    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/8
    Tobi uses Izanagi in this link


    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/600/12
    In this link we see that Obito has replaced the eye that lost his sight with the Rinnegan. Which make sense seeing how his sharigan would be useless.


    Conclusion
    TObito did not use Izanagi, he used Kamui. Whether he refilled or not is cannot be proven as it did not show that he used the technique nor did he talk of replacing his eye. Kishi simply displayed him off screen so that his abilities would not be revealed yet (in much greater detail).
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Greedy bastard not giving us his Sharingan spares... WTF seriously the hells wrong with him??
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    People were debating this?

    Of course he used Kamui. Obito is the perfect counter to Amaterasu and Susanoo.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    People were debating this?

    Of course he used Kamui. Obito is the perfect counter to Amaterasu and Susanoo.
    Because people keep saying Obito used Izanagi, but provide no proof
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    My post from another thread:

    Obito probably got damaged during the bombs. Izanagi completely alters reality. This notion is fully supported when Danzo got burnt into Oblivion, but came back in the form before he received this devastating mortal wound. Izanagi will reconstruct the reality exactly at the point it was initiated.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-43541-7...apter-477.html - Gets burnt completely.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-43541-1...apter-477.html - Reappears in exactly the same manner when Izanagi was initiated.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-43541-3...apter-477.html - Crushed to a maroon paste.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-43541-4...apter-477.html - Reappears in the form when he received the mortal wound.

    As for the rest of your points. Laughable as usual. Izanagi ONLY alters reality for the moment it's initiated/used. It won't make the individual reappear, or alter their reality before that moment:

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Danzo uses the seals, initiating Izanagi.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Receives the mortal wound.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Reappears in the EXACT form when it was initiated.

    Here is more:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-42474-6...apter-476.html - Initiates Izanagi, here.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-42474-1...apter-476.html - Sasuke is tightening his Susano’o’s grip here, and blood is gushing out of Danzo’s mouth.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-42474-1...apter-476.html - Is crushed completely, but Reappears in the form when he initiated the technique. There are no blood lines under his mouth. What else have you got? Not to mention he released/used the technique quite a while before he actually received the mortal wound.

    As Obito shows zero signs of clothes damage, it can never and will never be Kamui.
    First his shoulder catches fire: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-5/n...apter-397.html . Almost completely engulfed by flames here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-6/n...apter-397.html. The flames are still spreading as he's screaming - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-7/n...apter-397.html . Yet he appears with his clothes in perfect condition here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-11/...apter-397.html. Where are the burn marks on his shoulders or anywhere on his clothes? Read the Izanagi explanation within the quote marks. I mean, Are you telling me this is Kamui? Okay.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
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    First his shoulder catches fire: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-5/n...apter-397.html . Almost completely engulfed by flames here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-6/n...apter-397.html. The flames are still spreading as he's screaming - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-7/n...apter-397.html . Yet he appears with his clothes in perfect condition here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-11/...apter-397.html. Where are the burn marks on his shoulders or anywhere on his clothes? Read the Izanagi explanation within the quote marks. I mean, Are you telling me this is Kamui? Okay.
    I don't see any manga proof though. Tobi has the ability to become intangible and also warp things into his dimension, if he used Izanagi, his sharigan would have lost it's eye
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    I think obito, having such great mastery with intangibility, simply separated his body on fire from the rest of it, and amaterasu had nothing more to burn. Kinda fastest counter, no wasting time absorbing it.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    My post from another thread:



    First his shoulder catches fire: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-5/n...apter-397.html . Almost completely engulfed by flames here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-6/n...apter-397.html. The flames are still spreading as he's screaming - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-7/n...apter-397.html . Yet he appears with his clothes in perfect condition here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-11/...apter-397.html. Where are the burn marks on his shoulders or anywhere on his clothes? Read the Izanagi explanation within the quote marks. I mean, Are you telling me this is Kamui? Okay.
    This guy just destroyed your thread...lol

    Classic example of people underrating amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle sam View Post

    This guy just destroyed your thread...lol

    Classic example of people underrating amaterasu.
    Really rider?
    Care to explain how?
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by HadouKage View Post
    Really rider?
    Care to explain how?
    Well read his thread, that guy has some good points, but then again supposedly izanagi cant turn back time, so any dmg b4 it activated should've stayed there
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Na, pretty sure it was izanagi.
    He got ama'd to the face and had no signs of damage taken, anywhere.

    Btw, you didn't create proof that it was either kamui/ama.
    All you did was post links that were not even relevant..
    Tobi did not once remove his mask showing whether or not he lost his eye.
     
         
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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    My post from another thread:



    First his shoulder catches fire: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-5/n...apter-397.html . Almost completely engulfed by flames here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-6/n...apter-397.html. The flames are still spreading as he's screaming - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-7/n...apter-397.html . Yet he appears with his clothes in perfect condition here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-11/...apter-397.html. Where are the burn marks on his shoulders or anywhere on his clothes? Read the Izanagi explanation within the quote marks. I mean, Are you telling me this is Kamui? Okay.
    Thread closed.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    It was Izangi otherwise amerterasu would have burn't his clothes.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
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    First his shoulder catches fire: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-5/n...apter-397.html . Almost completely engulfed by flames here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-6/n...apter-397.html. The flames are still spreading as he's screaming - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-7/n...apter-397.html . Yet he appears with his clothes in perfect condition here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-402-11/...apter-397.html. Where are the burn marks on his shoulders or anywhere on his clothes? Read the Izanagi explanation within the quote marks. I mean, Are you telling me this is Kamui? Okay.
    If he used izanagi his clothes would have been burnt regardless unless he is fast enough top activate izanagi before the flames hit him. In that case he would have also been date enough typo activate kamui.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    he didn't use kamui, because if that were the case, when he fought that bug guy he could've done the same thing with the nano insects, but he instead chose to rip his arm off.
     
         

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    Re: TObito used Kamui on the "Black Flames"

    Quote Originally Posted by TrollingSage View Post
    If he used izanagi his clothes would have been burnt regardless unless he is fast enough top activate izanagi before the flames hit him. In that case he would have also been date enough typo activate kamui.
    I didn't even peep that. Since Amateratsu is said to be "instant" upon gaze, he would have still been burnt
     
         

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