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    The Ending Of The Series


    Like I've theorized way back in January, I believe the Juubi developed a form of consciousness over the eons, what Kurama described as the mindless/emotionless Juubi could be referring to its' primordial state, not the state when it attacked humanity during Rikudou's era.




    My hypothesis is that the Juubi developed a consciousness over the eons.
    And that the Final Form of the Juubi is a conscious/talking Juubi

    And this is the reason why it attacked humanity long ago:




    The Juubi attacked humanity as punishment for their sins (war,murder,destruction,etc.) and there's also that ominous statement by Rikudou to the Bijuus that "unlike when you were all inside me, you will be lead down the right path"




    It seems to imply that the Juubi is within the sphere of morality, that it's not some mindless creature that attacked humanity for no reason, and if we think about it, the Juubi was present since the foundation of the world long before Rikudou was born, why didn't it destroy humanity way back then? why allow the pupa to become a fly so to speak.

    Kishimoto's characters have always been purposive. Nothing happens without a reason. I seriously doubt that Juubi's attack on humanity was just something random.



    Madara thought that Kurama lacks sapience/consciousness, Hashirama and others thought of Kurama as merely a dangerous feral creature but it turns out he and the other Bijuus were not mindless animals, they had a reason to be antagonistic towards humanity, and since the whole (Juubi) is greater than the sum of its' parts, then why would the Juubi not have a consciousness or developed one?

    Also, Hachibi said that Rikudou foresaw the full revival of the Juubi would signal the end of the world.



    Since Rikudou probably had the gift of foresight, then why did he say that? why did he not foresaw the casting of Mugen Tsukuyomi? Rikudou's prophecy seems to imply the world's destruction, not the eternal slumber in the Mugen Tsukuyomi. Unless he foresaw it wouldn't be successful, that the Juubi will break free from Madara and Obito's control.

    This is a common literary plot device known as "misunderstood creatures" creatures who seem to be evil, or not necessarily evil but harmful, but the truth is they're not, we have just seen the human-side of the Bijuus, is it not possible to see the "human-side" of the Juubi? perhaps it merely attacked humans because of their wanton disregard for life, perhaps this primordial creature had enough of humanity's destructive ways and decided to once and for all eradicate humanity.



    There is also the matter of the absolute finality and closure to the series, even if Naruto becomes the Juubi's Jinchuuriki like Rikudou, the cycle will continue, Naruto will eventually die and the Juubi will be set loose. So to me the only closure I can see Kishimoto doing is that the Juubi will place its' faith in Naruto much like what the Bijuus did, but for that to happen, the Juubi must be conscious in the first place.

    Naruto will convince the Juubi to believe in humanity and will leave them in peace forever. The true ending is not a battle between good and evil, but a reunification of man and nature.




    UPDATE

    Remember this panel:



    It says Speak, See and Hear no evil.

    Kishimoto is presenting the element of irony

    Speak no evil and yet it has a mouth

    See no evil and yet it has an eye

    Hear no evil and yet it has an ear

    We're probably going to see a conscious Juubi like the Bijuus when it's fully transformed.

     
         
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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Sounds fine to me.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

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    Sounds fine to me.
    Thank you.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Good Job Derp ^^
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Superb..kudos to you Derp Obito for this magnificent thread
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    naruto will TALK NO JUTSU the 10 tails?????
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Theory: Sir Derp is actually the one writing the manga.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

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    naruto will TALK NO JUTSU the 10 tails?????
    You should not underestimate the power of speech.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    OR, The Juubi will eat obito and madara and than Kurama and Juubi make the 11 tails :D
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    You should not underestimate the power of speech.
    well naruto talk no jutsu itachi before

    and it's a given fact that

    ITACHI >>>>>> 10 TAILS

    so i think it will work

     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Supreme Itachi~ View Post
    well naruto talk no jutsu itachi before

    and it's a given fact that

    ITACHI >>>>>> 10 TAILS

    so i think it will work

    And Nagato.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    And Nagato.
    oh yeah that crippled immobile leader of the akatsuki gets 1 shotted by naruto's TALK NO JUTSU

    what a shame

    xD
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    A magnificent theory indeed. I've always wondered myself does the juubi have a councious mind or not.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    That's a pretty good theory. However, I'm not too fancy to the idea of the Juubi putting it's faith in Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    great theory!! anyone else notice that hashi's wife (forgot her name...mito?) doesnt have pupils? she looks like she has the byakugan!
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Sounds very plausible/reasonable, great job as always Sir.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Nice theory and it does say the Juubbi was known as a god who created countries so I guess it may have its own reasons that may or may not be just. Maybe the Juubi wanted revenge on mankind which is why it became a threat.



    I guess the Juubi was just like Sasuke and took the path of revenge so the S06P had to stop this from happening and he encompassed the ideals of Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Icelerate View Post
    Nice theory and it does say the Juubbi was known as a god who created countries so I guess it may have its own reasons that may or may not be just. Maybe the Juubi wanted revenge on mankind which is why it became a threat.



    I guess the Juubi was just like Sasuke and took the path of revenge so the S06P had to stop this from happening and he encompassed the ideals of Naruto.
    Yes most probably
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    It definately sounds possible ^^

    One thing I´m unsure about is the willingness of the Juubi (if he reveals to have a conscience) to "forgive" humanity.
    That will be one hell of a powerful tnj from Naruto (possible sacrifice? oh god x_x).
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Agreed good sir.
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    and the 10 tails looks cute. :3
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenday41 View Post
    and the 10 tails looks cute. :3
    It's Cute Juubi
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    I can dig it... Haha I'd include the fact that over a while a tailed beast looses it's humanity and consciousness like in the case with the 3 tails but I'm sure after a while they re-develope a "human side" haha
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Even if the Juubi is concious, I think Naruto will have a hard time persuading the Juubi to forgive humanity. It will be an astonishing achievement if he can, but I doubt it.

    Again, a nice theory. Love reading your theories!
     
         

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    Re: The Ending Of The Series

    Most people are seeing it coming and good job sir derp obito
     
         

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