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    Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    First of all , let me be clear, i am not talking about Amaterasu as in general but more specifically EMS sasuke's Amaterasu.

    (there is summary in the end for lazy people)
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    Many people think just because raikage barely managed to dodge Amaterasu, naruto can also dodge it but that is not the case here.

    but first, I need to prove how raikage can't dodge amaterasu before proving for naruto.

    It can clearly be seen in the page below, that when you activate amaterasu in MS, first blood comes out then amaterasu is summoned on the target.


    This takes out a lot of time for the user and also gives a hint to the target that amaterasu is coming hence giving him extra time to make necessary preparations for it.

    This is the reason how raikage was able to dodge amaterasu.


    First sasuke concentrated on target(raikage) then blood came out and then amaterasu was summoned, which gave raikage more then enough time to use his Body Flickr combined with v2 armor and dodge it.

    Now, this is EMS sasuke we are talking about , isn't it ? EMS = no MS drawbacks = less/no blood from the eye
    That is right, with EMS , sasuke have become way too OP.
    Now since there would be less blood coming out of the eye, amaterasu is unpredictable and even quicker than MS.
    For raikage , who barely managed to dodge amaterasu by like 5 cm, this is overkill.

    Now onto Naruto. We know in terms of speed, BM naruto > km naruto > Raikage (v2) .
    1. But this doesn't matter to sasuke, why you ask?here is the reason :


    As seen above, sasuke can manipulate his amaterasu at will, this manipulation is also known as Enton(blaze release).
    this is what makes sasuke superior to other uchiha such as itachi,madara (strictly in terms of amaterasu)

    2. EMS Sasuke has shown to use amaterasu quickly, almost instantly.


    We can see in the page above , sasuke instantly made a wall of amaterasu. Any ninja who uses low range attacks or taijutsu is dead against this.

    3. Sasuke has also shown to hit amaterasu at multiple target at one time.


    4. Sharingan's prediciton ability :



    From from point 1,2,3,4 we can concur sasuke can manipulate his amaterasu, spread amaterasu instantly and hit multiple targets at same time and use sharingan's prediction ability to know where naruto is going to move next.

    With sharingan's prediction ability , sasuke can know where naruto is going to move, with enton he can spread his amaterasu and he can also hit multiple targets , so it is impossible for naruto to dodge amaterasu.

    -----END OF THREAD-----


    SUMMARY :
    We know in terms of speed, BM naruto > km naruto > Raikage (v2) .
    1. But this doesn't matter to sasuke, why you ask?here is the reason :


    2. EMS Sasuke has shown to use amaterasu quickly, almost instantly.


    3. Sasuke has also shown to hit amaterasu at multiple target at one time.


    4. Sharingan's prediciton ability :



    From from point 1,2,3,4 we can concur sasuke can manipulate his amaterasu, spread amaterasu instantly and hit multiple targets at same time and use sharingan's prediction ability to know where naruto is going to move next.

    With sharingan's prediction ability , sasuke can know where naruto is going to move, with enton he can spread his amaterasu and he can also hit multiple targets , so it is impossible for naruto to dodge amaterasu.


    P.S : please do not post if your IQ is below 100 or your age is below 10.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    first of all, thats alot to read. and second of all.. da fuq?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by calpal View Post
    first of all, thats alot to read. and second of all.. da fuq?
    well you can read the summary.
    i am looking for a healthy debate since i was bored, so if you have anything to contribute to the thread you are welcomed in this thread .
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    sorry.
    i think that if it came down to it, naruto would just kage bunshin and surprise attack him, or pully somethin shiesty like he always does.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    I thought bijuu mode Naruto's speed was almost to fast to see. I may be wrong. We haven't seen yet if Sasuke can see Naruto's movements when Naruto is in bijuu mode so this is a bit premature.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Well I'm up for your challenge. Daisy will debate with you as I think that you are wrong.

    First of all, I applaud you for your research and information. However, I do think that with Naruto's reent ability to attain a full Host transformation, he is more than capable of dodging said Amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Dude. . It's so weird to look at that one picture of Obito taking off his mask. . . Before Tobi was revealed to be Obito. . .
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Yep, I concur.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Hmm you bring up some good points.. although we'll have to wait and see a fight between current naruto and Sasuke.. which is probably not going to happen unless Sasuke turns to the evil side again.. anyways even with EMS Sasuke still bleeds from the eye which gives a warning to opponents like Naruto and A who can dodge it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Very thorough analysis, but I think you are underestimating BM Naruto.
    As far as Raikage, and other forms of Naruto, it would just depend, as they have been shown to be ridiculously fast. (Naruto has been shown to be faster than A, as well as intercepting the 3rd Raikage in Sage Mode).
    Defensively speaking, Sasuke's Enton makes A's attack suicide. Naruto, we can't determine, as Kurama's chakra has shown large defensive increases.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    I disagree, I think that Naruto's speed has increased since his perfect jin mode was unlocked. His speed paralleled to that of the raikage in his previous form, but I bet he has gotten better in all aspects. He is faster than before, also you said blood gave away the amaterasu so that the raikage could move. I don't think that the blood is eliminated with the EMS, so Naruto could still see it coming.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by sagemode jinchuuriki View Post
    I thought bijuu mode Naruto's speed was almost to fast to see. I may be wrong. We haven't seen yet if Sasuke can see Naruto's movements when Naruto is in bijuu mode so this is a bit premature.
    MS itachi,MS obito, MS kakashi , madara , nagato -- > all of them were able to keep up with naruto's movements.
    so i believe Sasuke also can.


    Quote Originally Posted by JUICEMON GENESIS View Post
    Well I'm up for your challenge. Daisy will debate with you as I think that you are wrong.

    First of all, I applaud you for your research and information. However, I do think that with Naruto's recent ability to attain a full Host transformation, he is more than capable of dodging said Amaterasu.
    full host transformation would make naruto an easier target for sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    So do you honestly think that when the final Naruto vs Sasuke fight happens, Kishi will just let Naruto die instantly? Hell Freakin No!!
    Naruto is fast enough to dodge it, if not because of speed, then because of plot. Hmmph..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    True Amaterasu is considered instant. The reason why I think A was able to dodge Amaterasu was because he evaded Sasuke' eye contact. If you notice the image where he dodged it, the image if him is still there. It seems that when Sasuke targeted A, he ended up focusing on the image. You can say that he was setting on fire of some sort. Personally, I do not think Naruto will use his speed primary for blitzing, but more on a defensive stance. He may only use offensive speed for some occasion if he fights with Sasuke.

    Think about it, most of Sasuke offensive attack revolves around speed and precision (Amaterasu, EMS Arrows, Kirin, Kenjutsu, Magatamas), while Naruto's offensive is on raw power and blasting force (TBB Variants, Raseshurikens/Rasengan, KB, Chakra Arms). Sasuke's defense is Susanoo while Naruto's is speed.

    So Sasuke offensive=countered by speed while Naruto's brute force=countered by Susanoo if you think it that way. But that's what I see. Good thread on the subject.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    For a while Sasuke dodged Itachi's amaterasu so I think current level Naruto is more than able to leave it in he dust.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/390/4
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Hell ya........ And the tittle of the manga should be SASUKE not NARUTO........

    Or we read the same manga that kishi create???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    didn't read
    but amaterasu can't hit naruto...
    cuz that way naruto dies...
    you think that's gonna happen ?
    so naruto can dodge that
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    well its simple to find out, just find out which is faster out of the two, the speed of light, or the speed of sight, and then you have your answer
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    I really doubt sasuke can hit him with amaterasu on BM
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Frikid View Post
    MS itachi,MS obito, MS kakashi , madara , nagato -- > all of them were able to keep up with naruto's movements.
    so i believe Sasuke also can.




    full host transformation would make naruto an easier target for sasuke.
    Well I do agree to that to a certain extent. However I ras referring to Naruto's ludicrous speed. While in full Tailed Beast mode, Naruto's movements are faster than the eye can track. His speed almost makes even A look slow. From what we've seen of Amaterasu and Inferno Style, Naruto should be able to dodge it with relative ease. And as for predicting when it is about to strike, you must remember back when Nagato was fighting Itachi. You can see that Nagato sensed a strange shift in air pressure in the area before Itachi ignited him with Amaterasu. Also, if you notice, Sasuke bleeds from his eyes everytime Amaterasu is used. These are both tell tale sighns that Amaterasu is coming.

    And as for Inferno Style, That move is completely visible 90% of the time. In the form of a blade or a shield, Naruto will have a full visual scope of it and be able to evade it whenever he sees it coming. And as for the wall of Amaterasu. . . That's a reallly easy one. . . Use long range attacks. Naruto may be the #1 Most Hyperactive Knucklehead Ninja of the Villiage Hidden in the Leaves, but he's not stupid. He won't pull an A and charge directly into a wall of hellfire. . .

    Well these are my reasons as to why I believe you are wrong on your claim.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    ok, your common sense is completely missing... i recommend you find it soon because your in dangerous low IQ levels
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by LazyNacho View Post
    ok, your common sense is completely missing... i recommend you find it soon because your in dangerous low IQ levels
    Don't be a d*ck, bro. . . He's trying. And he at least brought manga proof to try and back up his claims.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    Your Underestimating BM speed...
    Tbb explodes on Impact,right? But Naruto Moved so Damn fast the Tbb was deflected......
    And you wrong,No one has ever kept Up with Naruto's Blitzing....Madara only blocked and he did it with His gumbai not his arm
     
         

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    Re: Naruto cannot dodge amaterasu

    I like how you use the fight against kabuto and how you say he can control it better but Kabuto still wasn't hit -______-

    then you say that he can read naruto's movements but in every other example everybody else's speed still allowed them to no get hit.... <
     
         

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