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    how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    as far as i know obito doesnot have tsukuyomi, its itachi's jutsu.
    at first i thought mugen tsukuyomi was the jutsu that you gain access to after you become the tailed tailed beast host.
    so that made sense cuz obito doesnot know tsukuyomi.

    but here is what obito says what:




    so if being jubbi host only strengthens his eyes then how is he planning to use the mugen tsukuyomi, since he clearly doesnot know how to use it or since this jutsu is not accessible to his mangekyou.
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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    good question i wonder how .......
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Apparently you can cast I/T without tsukuyomi

    Madara explains that he plans to cast it with this genjutsu, implying that it can be used by all sharingan, and not just MS (let alone an MS with tsukuyomi)
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    HMMMM... No comment!!
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    I always asumed the Mugen Tsukuyomi isn't directly linked to the normal tsukuyomi, but a different jutsu. Becoming the Juubi's host grants the ability to use it.

    The scan doesn't contradict this, for Obito said becoming the host would strengthen his eyes, so that he will be able to use that jutsu. It doesn't say it would strengthen a normal tsukuyomi into the infinite one.

    Also, becoming the Juubi's host is probably the strongest visual powerup in the whole Narutoverse, so it is also possiblde that the host gets regular Tsukuyomi anyway, having a Sharingan with that ability prior or not.
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    maybe that`s why he needed to revive madara.madara supposedly has tsukuyomi so....or he wanted to use sasuke`s tsukuyomi when he grows strong enough
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    To do it, madara need to be jubbi host.
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by reizon View Post
    as far as i know obito doesnot have tsukuyomi, its itachi's jutsu.
    at first i thought mugen tsukuyomi was the jutsu that you gain access to after you become the tailed tailed beast host.
    so that made sense cuz obito doesnot know tsukuyomi.

    but here is what obito says what:




    so if being jubbi host only strengthens his eyes then how is he planning to use the mugen tsukuyomi, since he clearly doesnot know how to use it or since this jutsu is not accessible to his mangekyou.
    any thoughts??
    At this time obito was posing as Madara in order to provoke the war. Obito never planned on activating the infinite tsukuyomi himself. Obitos mission was always to gather the tailed beast and revive the real Madara to cast it. They even stated this plan to each other while on top of the Juubi a while back but I'm at work so I don't have time to find the scan and post it.
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by MsEdwards View Post
    At this time obito was posing as Madara in order to provoke the war. Obito never planned on activating the infinite tsukuyomi himself. Obitos mission was always to gather the tailed beast and revive the real Madara to cast it. They even stated this plan to each other while on top of the Juubi a while back but I'm at work so I don't have time to find the scan and post it.


    I don't think so. It is clear that Obito wasn't and isn't eager to revive Madara (he explicitly denied doing so). It is very likely he planned to go through with the whole project by himself, if Madara hadn't joined him on the battlefield. And it's still possible he will become the host...
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    luuuuul.>
    he clearly doesnot know how to use it
    he was taught by the legendary madara! of course he knows how to do it -_-

    THE Manga clearly answers your question, THE PROGENITOR WILL ''STRENGTHEN HIS EYES'' TO USE TSUKIYOMI!! the juubi will make him use the move his eyes will be like that of a user with tsukiyomi thus he will gain the move through the juubi
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    i dont get what people are trying to say!!
    is becoming a host of jubbi grants access to mugen tsukuyomi ??
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    obito clearly says that right now he is weak and becoming the jubbi host will strengthen his eyes
    and then he will be able to use a certain jutsu.

    he definately doesnot say anything about jubbi granting him access to mugen tsukuyomi
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by reizon View Post
    i dont get what people are trying to say!!
    is becoming a host of jubbi grants access to mugen tsukuyomi ??
    Becoming the juubi host grants obito's eyes to use tsukiyomi, susanoo.ETC, yes it does. btw. infinite tsukiyomi is basically a GENJUTSU ON THE MOON,
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by reizon View Post
    i dont get what people are trying to say!!
    is becoming a host of jubbi grants access to mugen tsukuyomi ??
    No

    look at my scan, I/T is just the name of the genjutsu. The juubi allows for that strengthened genjutsu (not tsukuyomi) to be cast upon the moon. And since the juubi's chakra is pretty much infinite, then it can be case indefinitely, hence the name "infinite tsukuyomi".
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by AllomnisymbolsparttwoT View Post
    Becoming the juubi host grants obito's eyes to use tsukiyomi, susanoo.ETC, yes it does. btw. infinite tsukiyomi is basically a GENJUTSU ON THE MOON,
    its like saying become the host will give you access to byakugan.
    tsukuyomi is not accessible to his mangekyou.
    his mangekyou only allow his to use that space time jutsu(kamui)
    and for susanoo you need to activate both you mangekyou, but obito doesnot have both his eyes(only one eye)

    so what are you trying to say??
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by reizon View Post
    its like saying become the host will give you access to byakugan.
    tsukuyomi is not accessible to his mangekyou.
    his mangekyou only allow his to use that space time jutsu(kamui)
    and for susanoo you need to activate both you mangekyou, but obito doesnot have both his eyes(only one eye)

    so what are you trying to say??
    His explanation is wrong
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by reizon View Post
    its like saying become the host will give you access to byakugan.
    tsukuyomi is not accessible to his mangekyou.
    his mangekyou only allow his to use that space time jutsu(kamui)
    and for susanoo you need to activate both you mangekyou, but obito doesnot have both his eyes(only one eye)

    so what are you trying to say??


    Becoming the Juubi's jost grants a person unmeasurable eye prowess, so you can use that jutsu. It probably doesn't matter what eye techniques he previously knew.
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Zol View Post
    Becoming the Juubi's jost grants a person unmeasurable eye prowess, so you can use that jutsu. It probably doesn't matter what eye techniques he previously knew.
    It does, its like saying that the juubi's chakra will give him KA too...Then why wouldnt the jutsu be infinite KA?

    He doesnt get any new jutsus, if anything he'll get a completely different dojutsu, or just a strengthened version of his sharingan, thus allowing for a genjutsu to be cast upon the moon. The genjutsu itself wont be tsukuyomi, its just a never ending genjutsu on the moon.

    Tsukuyomi is the moon god

    The infinite is self-explanatory
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by reizon View Post
    its like saying become the host will give you access to byakugan.
    tsukuyomi is not accessible to his mangekyou.
    his mangekyou only allow his to use that space time jutsu(kamui)
    and for susanoo you need to activate both you mangekyou, but obito doesnot have both his eyes(only one eye)

    so what are you trying to say??
    you're taking my words out of context, the juubi will STRENGTH HIS EYES! I never said anything about byagukan, UNDERSTAND, the manga says it will strength HIS EYES THEN HE WILL USE A CERTAIN JUTSU,, the juubi will make the sharingan be able to use the move he is TOO ''WEAK'' to do, FUDGE..
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    His explanation is wrong
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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by AllomnisymbolsparttwoT View Post
    my explantion is not wrong, you're not understanding
    Youre literally saying that when he gets the juubi's chakra he is able to use tsukuyomi.

    I agree with the strengthening part but thats it. The juubis chakra will strengthen his genjutsu to the point where he can cast it on the moon.

    He doesnt obtain any "new" or "certian" jutsu's, all he gets is a stronger genjutsu which is infinite.
     
         

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    Re: how did obito plan to start the mugen tsukuyomi ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    Youre literally saying that when he gets the juubi's chakra he is able to use tsukuyomi.

    I agree with the strengthening part but thats it. The juubis chakra will strengthen his genjutsu to the point where he can cast it on the moon.

    He doesnt obtain any "new" or "certian" jutsu's, all he gets is a stronger genjutsu which is infinite.
    lul it said certain jutsu, its pretty obito said strengten eye not genjutsu
     
         

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