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    How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Just to clear things at first, i hope i posted this in the right section..
    anyway, its a fair fight, naruto is able to damage luffy to an extent, like not using haki, but damages luffy a bit less than he can with haki, since luffy is rubber...
    Now i read about lots of people arguing who is stronger, add bleach and fairy tail, and for some reasons luffy is better than naruto...

    i want you guys to convince me that luffy is better, or naruto is better. i am not some annoying fanboy, and i read both mangas so convince me please, give me an answer here.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Bijuu Mode all the way.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Luffy > Naruto
    Unless the "Water Style" takes place in this fight ...
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hell Autarch View Post
    Bijuu Mode all the way.
    yeah, thats how i see it, even if without bijuu mode, naruto's sage mode is near perfection, so it counters gear second in ease
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    2nd Gear attacks > BM attack speed. I wanna say that Luffy's punches also hurt like crap. If King's Haki works on Naruto, then he's done for. The other two Hakis are very useful as well.

    In terms of power, I'd say Bleach (Ichigo) > One Piece (Luffy) > Naruto (Naruto) > Fairy Tail (Natsu). I've never seen FT, btw.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara3Uchiha View Post
    Luffy > Naruto
    Unless the "Water Style" takes place in this fight ...
    I wrote explain why....Luffy > Naruto is driving me crazy, since i cant see why. Please explain why.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    I say Luffy. 80% of the characters in one piece has monster strength like A and Tsunade. Naruto said if he took one clean puch from A then he's finished.

    I think Luffy's conqueror's Haki would work on Naruto because its evident that Naruto's resolve gets shaken quite easily.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke Urameshi View Post
    2nd Gear attacks > BM attack speed. I wanna say that Luffy's punches also hurt like crap. If King's Haki works on Naruto, then he's done for. The other two Hakis are very useful as well.

    In terms of power, I'd say Bleach (Ichigo) > One Piece (Luffy) > Naruto (Naruto) > Fairy Tail (Natsu). I've never seen FT, btw.

    but in bijuu mode naruto gets too frigin fast, way faster than gear second....he could even dodge raikage's lariat.
    not talking about attack speed here but naruto with rasengan, and kage bunshin...its fast enough
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Luffy would win against Naruto. Other people have explained here.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke Urameshi View Post
    2nd Gear attacks > BM attack speed. I wanna say that Luffy's punches also hurt like crap. If King's Haki works on Naruto, then he's done for. The other two Hakis are very useful as well.

    In terms of power, I'd say Bleach (Ichigo) > One Piece (Luffy) > Naruto (Naruto) > Fairy Tail (Natsu). I've never seen FT, btw.
    You believe any of Luffy's punches are going to hurt Naruto? The guy who's cloak makes diamond hurting swords look weak? The guy who's cloak tanked a Juubi laser? The guy who's cheap, hand-out cloaks was enough to dwarf Madara's Katon? If those hand-out cloaks were enough to shit on Madara's Katon, imagine Naruto's full on, real one. Safe to say, absolutely none of Luffy's attacks are hurting Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    I say Luffy. 80% of the characters in one piece has monster strength like A and Tsunade. Naruto said if he took one clean puch from A then he's finished.

    I think Luffy's conqueror's Haki would work on Naruto because its evident that Naruto's resolve gets shaken quite easily.
    Finally someone with a reasonable answer...but still though i dont think conqueror's haki will work on naruto...it isnt about resolve, its about the heart, since it works on people with weak hearts, or spirit so i dont think it works on naruto
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    I say Luffy. 80% of the characters in one piece has monster strength like A and Tsunade. Naruto said if he took one clean puch from A then he's finished.

    I think Luffy's conqueror's Haki would work on Naruto because its evident that Naruto's resolve gets shaken quite easily.
    This man here.... is the next heir to the throne as "god"...

    on a serious note i totally agree here
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke Urameshi View Post
    2nd Gear attacks > BM attack speed. I wanna say that Luffy's punches also hurt like crap. If King's Haki works on Naruto, then he's done for. The other two Hakis are very useful as well.

    In terms of power, I'd say Bleach (Ichigo) > One Piece (Luffy) > Naruto (Naruto) > Fairy Tail (Natsu). I've never seen FT, btw.
    Everyone in Bleach is so OP that it's ridiculous; and even then, their attacks fail to kill each other in one hit -.-

    I have not kept up with One Piece, but Luffy is indeed strong. I think that SM Naruto would prevail though.

    Natsu in Lightning Fire Dragon Mode is OP, but that's about it; there doesn't seem to be a boost in other areas aside from pure destructive power.
    But Gildarts.... O.O

    As such:

    Naruto (Naruto) => One Piece (Luffy) > Bleach (Ichigo) > Fairy Tail (Natsu)
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    The amount of people that actually believes that Luffy can beat Naruto is very stunning.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    I still Believe that Naruto SM could take out luffy
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    naruto smart>>>>luffy. naruto wins with bunshin fints
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    I think Rasenshuriken can take out Luffy.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The7thHokage View Post
    I still Believe that Naruto SM could take out luffy
    BM naruto is required to give luffy a decent match
    Luffy kicked hody jones into a cliff... the impact destroyed the cliff face!
    and that was in base!!!
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    naruto would just have to learn any Air Cutting technique or just throw a rasenshuriken...taju kage bunshin no jutsu with kunai... xD

    Bijudama Luffy ass to the ocean xD
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The7thHokage View Post
    but in bijuu mode naruto gets too frigin fast, way faster than gear second....he could even dodge raikage's lariat.
    not talking about attack speed here but naruto with rasengan, and kage bunshin...its fast enough
    Luffy has the sensing Haki (whatever that's called). When Naruto attacks using his super fast speed, Luffy turns around and Jet Pistols him. Jet Pistol seems to be near instantaneous. Also, idk if Rasengan would even hurt Luffy.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

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    Luffy has the sensing Haki (whatever that's called). When Naruto attacks using his super fast speed, Luffy turns around and Jet Pistols him. Jet Pistol seems to be near instantaneous. Also, idk if Rasengan would even hurt Luffy.
    Raikage A > Luffy in speed, yet Naruto manages to dodge Raikage no probs?
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

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    Luffy has the sensing Haki (whatever that's called). When Naruto attacks using his super fast speed, Luffy turns around and Jet Pistols him. Jet Pistol seems to be near instantaneous. Also, idk if Rasengan would even hurt Luffy.
    Physical attacks won't hurt Naruto either.
     
         

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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    Luffy dodged light speed lasers....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQReRZVpwU
    the lasers are the power of kizaru's light devil fruit...

    if naruto makes too many clones they will be weak enough individually for luffy to knock out with his haki
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNlCm0yNTWY

    Naruto's bijuudama is a mountain buster , but that uses up a lot of chakra and time to prepare
    luffy in base did this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqxJVYiJVDQ

    considering gear 2nd has far more speed , therefore more head on force , he could have done a lot worse
    and gear 3rd has power increasing tenfold (probably to the point where he could punch the 9 tails once and wind him

    also:
    luffy's haki allows him to predict naruto's attacks , he can dodge naruto's BM attacks , but BM naruto has no such power and therefore will be hit by attacks of equal/greater speed than his own.

    Luffy has the perfect counter to naruto's jutsu which he is entirely dependant on
    he has greater speed,and strength
    and on top of that his 3rd and 2nd gear have no time limit to their usage

    last but not least , his haki grants him a stronger defence aswell...
     
         
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    Re: How is Naruto stronger than Luffy, and is Luffy stronger than Naruto ?

    IMO Naruto in BM is wayyyy to fast for Luffy. Also Luffy's rubber property wont protect him from a Rasenshuriken, which attacks on a cellular level. 1 Rasenshuriken and Naruto takes this.
     
         

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