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    Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    I was re-watching some episodes of shippuden when I saw the Sasuke vs Bee fight & I caught something a little odd.
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/415/6
    As you can see here, Sasuke (Along with Itachi) can extinguish the amaterasu flames by using the same eyes they use to summon them. But it is said that amaterasu can not be put out until it burns its target to ashes.

    So The flames dont "extinguish" but they sort of just go back to where they came from.

    Now to further explain my theory I will address the few issues.
    1. The Kamui realm only belongs to Kakashi & Obito. This may have been a little over exagerated. I think what this means is that only those who posess the eye of the realm can enter it by will, summon things from there, or send other things to there as well. Kakashi & Obito eyes are "linked" so to speak, because they are the only known ones who can control the entering & exiting of the realm.

    2. Does this mean that all uchihas technically possess kamui? No they do not. My theory suggests that they only have the will to bring forth the flames of amaterasu, send them back & nothing more.

    So heres where I kinda just think for myself & share my opinion. You see how the flames seems to "teleport" to the aquired target? They already exist in the realm of kamui, so they just seem to "instantly show up". Kind of how Obito can teleport from one spot to another (but takes longer because he must enter Kamui & once again exit)

    Now I know what your thinking, if they exist in kamui, why cant obito use them? Well its been proven that obito has wood style. But he never seems to use that either. Even though its been proven that he has it, he might not use it because he doesnt like to show his strength. But I think that obito cannot use them because they are not in the eye that he has, but yet in kakashi's eye. But Kakashi cant use it because he doesnt have the blood of an uchiha. I mean Sasuke, & Itachi both seem to be exausted after they use amaterasu. Kakashi would be screwed if he messes up the location & depletes most of his chakra.

    My last point, amaterasu is said to be the flames that forever burn in hell. What did Obito say when he first got a glimpse of the Kamui realm? http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/605/17

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Possible, Nice theory bro
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    , provocatimg
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    no i think they just die out but thats my opinion you may have a point though a bit far fetched
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Hmmmm, very interesting.

    However if what you say is correct, then the entire Kamui dimension would need to be enveloped in black flames. Because, when Obito uses Kamui, his body is in the same exact location, however in a different dimension. Meaning that the Amaterasu would have to be in the same exact location in the Kamui dimension as Karin's back was in the real world.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Quote Originally Posted by hixa kuogame View Post
    no i think they just die out but thats my opinion you may have a point though a bit far fetched
    Yeah I know, it kind of seems a little weird.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Well amaterasu does have S/T element.
    Sasuke's ability to put out amaterasu isnt same as itachi stopping the flame.
    Sasuke had to exert his power for that and he did it with the right(enton) eye.
    Itachi could put the flames on pause, which later would resume if he died plus he wasnt having such hard time to do so.
    Does it come from kamui dimension? Well if so, what does it matter?
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    *Puts down the newspaper* Not even possible, there are still many questions to be answered. Like how Amaterasu's flame ever go there in the first place?!
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Flames aren't summoned. They are chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Quote Originally Posted by BlinkST View Post
    Flames aren't summoned. They are chakra.
    Exactly, they think Sasuke summons them from an alternate universe. I can see the fail/noob emitting from this thread.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Kamui is an S/t related technique.Amaterasu doesn't seem to have an S/T element on it.It's just chakra.Like water and fire and earth etc release.The fact that it has some unique attributes doesn't imply that it's summoned from somewhere.
    Also we've seen that you have to place something in the kamui dimension to take it out.It's a rather empty space,so how did the flames get there in the first place?That would require an interaction with the dimension where you first create with chakra the unique fire element that is needed for ama and then you summon it,through your eye an hit the target.But since only two persons have access in that dimension,then I don't really find this plausible.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Amaterasu does have S/T element it is ignited at focal point at distance in a was kakashi uses his kamui but inverted to bring out black flames
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaScythian View Post
    Amaterasu does have S/T element it is ignited at focal point at distance in a was kakashi uses his kamui but inverted to bring out black flames
    1.that theory's been proven wrong so many times

    2. You're making that up. Amaterasu is a fire style jutsu
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    ehhh maybe not a kamui demension we have seen in there and no armatarasu, maybe a diff world of just armatarasu
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Plausible, well done.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    It's from Tartarus br00!
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackFlame44 View Post
    1.that theory's been proven wrong so many times
    2. You're making that up. Amaterasu is a fire style jutsu
    1. Prove it wrong once again. I missed other occasions somehow.
    2. No im not. Its just as katon as KA can be dispelled by touch.
     
         

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    Re: Amaterasu flames come from the Kamui dimension [Theory]

    The databook calls Amaterasu flames of hell. There is an instance when Obito thinks, "Is this hell?" in his Kamui dimension. But we did not see any flames themselves. Also, I am sure if Obito had them in his pocket dimension, he would have used them by now, as he did so with the weapons in the last chapter.

    Amaterasu is chakra, but then again it doesn't quite behave like one. It eats up chakra and despite being a fire, it doesn't display much of its properties. It also has that teleportation element as it manifests at the single point where the eye is focused, but as it's chakra, it's obviously the chakra itself that manifests as flames.

    Plausible, so, let's see.
     
         

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