Naruto Manga 477 Discussion / 478 Predictions

[Degrees]

Sasuke can summon a hawk thats pretty cool(hawks are a lot better then snakes) & Itachi is back, but I still wasn't excited so I gave this chapter a 2.

[Dabz]

Sasuke can summon a hawk thats pretty cool(hawks are a lot better then snakes) & Itachi is back, but I still wasn't excited so I gave this chapter a 2.

A 2 seriously dude, looks like someone didnt get what they wanted for christmas lol

[Kuroi Honoo]

i don't think that naruto did that that...i mean if he saw his best friend and one of his enemies fighting he would rush into the fight that's his character it would be a bit strange if kishi changed the character of naruto which him one of the most loved characters. i strongly believe that its a planted jutsu from itachi or a genjutsu from sasuke which i doubt because he wouldn't have the chakra needed to cast it after a Sussano'o and an Amaterasu.

Where is the evidence that while Susanoo/Amatersau is in use, that it wastes chakra? From what I know, Susanoo only puts a strain on the user's body as they have to act as a medium for the spirit and Amaterasu as well with the addition of causing the eyes to bleed.

Very true

As danzo is wearing him down hes also analising sasukes moves, so as sasuke gets weaker danzo gains more info on him, pretty smart move

Chotto chotto, Sasuke has been keeping his own against Danzou, which could be the reason in why he has closed those Sharingan eyes. This could either be for extra lives or for something yet to happen. I read someone say that when Danzou invoked those hand signs, Sasuke had his Sharingan activated so he has been analyzing him the same just as an Uchiha would having their doujutsu kekkei genkai.

Danzo'o still has more 4 or 5 sharingans in his arm..Plus one on his eye and god knows where else..
I can't see how Sasuke will have chakra to shut all of them..

I know that Sasuke's chakra supply isn't on par with Naruto's but when using the Sharingan it only uses a very minimal amount of chakra while the Mangekyou puts a strain on the users eyes and I'm not exactly sure if it uses a little amount of charkra like the Sharingan but if it does then he still should have chakra even though he used that summoning but I highly doubt that Sasuke would be wasting his chakra reserves foolishly as he has grown from all of his battles. Now, what he needs to keep in mind is the time that passes while in use of Mangekyou.

[Degrees]

I had a feeling Itachi would come back in some type of form, ok I give it a 3 only because that hawk thing was pretty cool.
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/001/4
notice the hawk

[narutosharingan]

I think itachi sealed some of his chakra in sasuke just for this whole fight because he knows danzo is a a**hole and that he got something up his sleeves (i mean literally). I'm saying this because danzo doesn't seem to be getting serious even though his sharingan eyes are closing i think he is just letting sasuke attack him for some reason

[Irengninja]

remember danzou hasn't use his right eye sharingan. there's a possibility that danzou have the MS

[aTastyCookie]

well as you can see sasuke activated his MS first so yea its a genjutsu and the crows came out from sasuke

[blackboy771]

could itchi being alive sort of be like when oro summomd the 1st and 2nd hokage i mean oro most likely did teach S everything

[Anoup]

Itachi came out ............ But from where????

[teetooktier]

Look At Sasuke's Sharingan His Puipil Its Covering 50%. He's Definitely Goin Blind At A Very Fast Pace.

Use This As A Comparison
Naruto 402 page 17 | One Manga

Dang that's an awesome pickup. It's not only Sasuke's eyes that are deteriorating; his genius is slipping away. Madara was right, using Susano'o and Amaterasu right away? That's idiotic.

As for Itachi, I doubt he's still alive; This is his gift to Naruto. Naruto just collapsed after realizing Sasuke was no longer a part of Konoha. That is what Itachi gave him the gift for in the first place. The crow Itachi forced down his throat may be, as with Minato, an imprint of himself. "Itachi" is actually Naruto, with limited use of his abilities and his appearance.

Sasuke might be kinda fazed by this, but I really don't expect him to run in "Itaruto's" arms and beg for forgiveness. I'm actually interested to know exactly WHY he doesn't want to hear about Itachi.

[ARUN]

Ok so first of all many people are saying that its probably Genjutsu but i doubt thats likely because we all know by now that sharingan can dispel genjutsu and we can see that Danzo is no novice in using his sharingan effectively.

So some people say that Itachi is a part of the Tsukiyomi but so far every single time someone used Tsukiyomi the target was warped into some sort of alternate dimension with distorted time and space, and clearly the surroundings still seem to be the same.

Danzo seems suprised at the sight of Itachi and so far in this fight Danzo was not suprised or even slightly faltering even when he was in the grasp of Sasuke's Susanoo so we can tell that Danzo is genuinely mystified at Itachi's sudden arrival so i doubt that Itachi is a product of Danzo's tricks or even Madara's becuase the Crow's came out of Sasuke not Danzo.

So given all this i have a few ideas on what Itachi's appearance could be.

1.) Itachi could be a triggered thing like Minato in Naruto that was set to activate when Sasuke started fighting Danzo( which showed that he was trying to destroy Konoha) and mightve been a safeguard in case Sasuke chose that evil path to destroy Konoha and its Elders.

2.) another thing that no one was mentioned is that this appearance of Itachi could be a new Mangekyou ability of Sasuke. It was a previous theory that the number of parts the sharinghan divided the eye into the number of mangekyou abilities the user would possess and so far we haven't seen any of Sasuke's original mangekyou abilities. And based on the story every person to have possessed the Mangekyou has shown at least one different ability. Itachi: Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanno. Madara with his space/time jutsu and ability that allowed him to cheat Death from the 1st Hokage. So its only up to reason that even if sasuke doesnt get 6 total mangekyou abilities he should get atleast one original Mangekyou ability of his own.
So its possible that this might be his special ability as we see Sasuke evidently concentrating with Magekyou eyes open. Now due to the strain of the mangekyou, Sasuke would have to be a dumba*s to just waltz around with both mangekyou eyes open and not be doing a jutsu so this might be the product of that double eye stare

Actually if we see back we have seen totally 4 mangekyou sharingans including Kakashi's nd each of em had diffferent kailedescope. And previously there speciality also varied like dat of madara itachi nd kakashi nd maybe possible dat itachi's reappearence mite be sum sort of special ability of sasuke's mangekyou. this might be the technique he wanted to try rather than susanoo as was mentioned earlier

[baah]

About Danzo's tech:

- Danzo's sharingans seems to have unique capabilities....

- either he switches eyes (from his arm to his right eyeball socket) according to what sharingan is applicable in the situation and can only use one sharingan at a time or;

- he focuses the power of each eyes to his right eye and combines the power of two or more sharingans...if this is the case then maybe Danzo can create Mangekyo level or more powerful Doujutsu...just like in the case of Hashirama and Mizukage's multiple Kekei Genkais that can produce new elemental Jutsus like Yoton and Mokuton...

- we can say that Danzo switches or uses each sharingans when eyes on his arm closes...


about Sasuke's Summoning:

-Nice pet..I thought Uchihas can only summon cats?..Now that Sasuke can summon hawks, he can use Kirin more conveniently....

- Obviously its from Itachi...


About Itachi

- wasnt expecting it...Good twist!!

[baah]

remember danzou hasn't use his right eye sharingan. there's a possibility that danzou have the MS

i think Danzo is currently using his right eye...

[The Pervy Sage]

i think Danzo is currently using his right eye...

I dont, i think his using his so called lives to test sasuke and where him down while he learns about his techniques

[baah]

I dont, i think his using his so called lives to test sasuke and where him down while he learns about his techniques

sharingan is a tool not a source of life...why would Danzo collect sharingans just to have extra lives...(might as well collect hearts like Kakuzu)... Danzo collects sharingans because of their unique capabilities not to have extra lives...what do u think Pervy sage kun?

[xxjeshyxx]

I hate to say it, but I think I agree with the fact that it is genjutsu. I'd predict that the actual Itachi remnants (ie 4th hokage seal thingie) would pop-out in the inevitable Sasuke vs. Naruto fight as we know that Itachi gave Naruto something 'just in case Sasuke chose the wrong path'.

I totally wish with everything I am that Itachi is somehow alive though

[xxjeshyxx]

Dang that's an awesome pickup. It's not only Sasuke's eyes that are deteriorating; his genius is slipping away. Madara was right, using Susano'o and Amaterasu right away? That's idiotic.

As for Itachi, I doubt he's still alive; This is his gift to Naruto. Naruto just collapsed after realizing Sasuke was no longer a part of Konoha. That is what Itachi gave him the gift for in the first place. The crow Itachi forced down his throat may be, as with Minato, an imprint of himself. "Itachi" is actually Naruto, with limited use of his abilities and his appearance.

Sasuke might be kinda fazed by this, but I really don't expect him to run in "Itaruto's" arms and beg for forgiveness. I'm actually interested to know exactly WHY he doesn't want to hear about Itachi.

Oh wow - that makes so much more sense - it's the Itachi crow! lols. Aww, Itachi was the best...

[baah]

During Itachi Sasuke fight Itachi said: "In order to survive we cling to all we know and understand and we label it reality but knowledge and understanding are ambiguous that reality could be an illusion"..... If Itachi is foreshadowing the current situation while saying this line...maybe he is really alive...but i dont think Itachi is gonna stay after Danzo is defeated....

[baah]

Danzo's Seals ended with Ram...Kuchiyose always ends with Ram... Kuchiyose is a Space/Time Ninjutsu... Maybe Danzo's Jutsu is some kind of Space/Time Ninjutsu (like Madara's) or related...

[Michael92]

Narutobase was slow to release the new Chapter this time But as they say:
"Better late than never", i guess, and Merry Christmas btw

The theory that all of Donzou´s sharingaan are lifes can´t be true.
Just think about it.
Why would he go through all the "trouble" collecting them if he was going to throw them away like that?:confused:

I think its more like he can see "every" attack in slow-motion or something, so that he can space-jump like Madara right at the time he get hit, and this causing one of his eyes to close for a moment and reopen later.

Remember when Shino attacked Madara with bugs and everyone was sure that he got him, then suddenly he reappered? Donzou probobly has a simular tech.

Someone mention that Donzou had sharingaan on both arms?:confused:
That can be right. Remember that he had bandaged his right hand, left foot(?) and half of his head. He never bandaged his left arm did he? In that case, why would he only cover up and seal one arm?:confused:

About Itachi.
As some has said earlier. Kishi were bringing in new Akat. members. What if he´s bringing back akatsuki members instead? Maybe Itachi and Kisame, the best Akatsuki members ever!
As many (including me) have puzzled about Kisames death, I´ve also puzzled about Itachi´s death...
What if he did something simular to what Killerbee did when he fought Sasuke.
The Akat. members left, didn´t realize that it was an octopus-arm until they had come at least half-way through the sealing ritual. Maybe Madara and Zetsu didn´t know that it wasn´t Itachi?:D Maybe Kisame somehow survived too and Kisame and Itachi join forces with the good guys(Naruto and co.) or forms a group with Sasuke and joins Madara again or opposes him:P

Just a thought

Did anyone else notice that the eagle had sharingaan eyes?
I don´t think that it matters, but it was a cool fact
And also right before Donzou grabs Sasuke´s neak and Sasuke somehow cuts him in half, we get to see Madara`s eye, like he`s using an eye tech. Maybe a genjutsu(Page 13).
Maybe he already then threw a spell at Donzou making Itachi appers later?

A little long, but i felt like i had to get it all down in on comment. Please replies with some of your thoughts, esspecially you, Pervy Sage since (as you said yourself) you don`t have too much to do and since you`re on this site all the time comment-ing

[Mentaltraveler]

Personally I think that whatever Danzo is doing to stay alive isn't taking away stored lives or anything, just consumes high amounts of chakra. And so after each apparent "death", he has a smaller chakra supply to work with and so he closes an eye.

Kind of like how Pain had to bring his minions in closer as his chakra lessened. They both have to narrow there focus as there energy depletes. Maybe its something else, we will see...
Peace

[rsensuriken]

i know it has nothing to do with the 477 or 478 but I'm a bit confused...are they going to release a manga this week?


Ruler Micheal pretty good thoughts but i don't think Itachi will be alive and Madara doesn't know it since he saw his dead body and if i remember correct he took his eyes ans since Zetsu is a cannibal he must have eaten his body

still pretty cool thoughts it would be really nice if itachi somehow was revived and fought against madara side by side with sasuke or naruto!!!

[Narutard Inc]

Reply:"Thou that might be true every tried considering the fact that sasuke was the former pupil of orochimaru and during the fight of orochimaru and the 3rd Hokage, orochimaru used a forbbiden ninjutsu which brings back the dead in order to fight for the summoners. Sasuke probably could have learned this technique from his years studying under orochimaru."

[Narutard Inc]

could it be something like reversed summoning? like the one Naruto made for his fight with Pein?
just an idea

Thou that might be true every tried considering the fact that sasuke was the former pupil of orochimaru and during the fight of orochimaru and the 3rd Hokage, orochimaru used a forbbiden ninjutsu which brings back the dead in order to fight for the summoners. Sasuke probably could have learned this technique from his years studying under orochimaru.

[Narutard Inc]

Ok so first of all many people are saying that its probably Genjutsu but i doubt thats likely because we all know by now that sharingan can dispel genjutsu and we can see that Danzo is no novice in using his sharingan effectively.

So some people say that Itachi is a part of the Tsukiyomi but so far every single time someone used Tsukiyomi the target was warped into some sort of alternate dimension with distorted time and space, and clearly the surroundings still seem to be the same.

Danzo seems suprised at the sight of Itachi and so far in this fight Danzo was not suprised or even slightly faltering even when he was in the grasp of Sasuke's Susanoo so we can tell that Danzo is genuinely mystified at Itachi's sudden arrival so i doubt that Itachi is a product of Danzo's tricks or even Madara's becuase the Crow's came out of Sasuke not Danzo.

So given all this i have a few ideas on what Itachi's appearance could be.

1.) Itachi could be a triggered thing like Minato in Naruto that was set to activate when Sasuke started fighting Danzo( which showed that he was trying to destroy Konoha) and mightve been a safeguard in case Sasuke chose that evil path to destroy Konoha and its Elders.

2.) another thing that no one was mentioned is that this appearance of Itachi could be a new Mangekyou ability of Sasuke. It was a previous theory that the number of parts the sharinghan divided the eye into the number of mangekyou abilities the user would possess and so far we haven't seen any of Sasuke's original mangekyou abilities. And based on the story every person to have possessed the Mangekyou has shown at least one different ability. Itachi: Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanno. Madara with his space/time jutsu and ability that allowed him to cheat Death from the 1st Hokage. So its only up to reason that even if sasuke doesnt get 6 total mangekyou abilities he should get atleast one original Mangekyou ability of his own.
So its possible that this might be his special ability as we see Sasuke evidently concentrating with Magekyou eyes open. Now due to the strain of the mangekyou, Sasuke would have to be a dumba*s to just waltz around with both mangekyou eyes open and not be doing a jutsu so this might be the product of that double eye stare

1.)Thou that might be true every tried considering the fact that sasuke was the former pupil of orochimaru and during the fight of orochimaru and the 3rd Hokage, orochimaru used a forbbiden ninjutsu which brings back the dead in order to fight for the summoners. Sasuke probably could have learned this technique from his years studying under orochimaru.
2.) Look closely at the page before u see itachi. u see sasuke diverging into crows. Itachi might have given something more than just amaterasu, tsukiyomi, susanoo, and MS. Its possible itachi might have sealed some of his life force inside of sasuke just like the forth hokage.
3.) Before itachi went to fight he gave naruto some of his powers and he quotes " I hope the day never comes when you will have to use this" he might have meant he would not want to face sasuke after decieving him while he tries to take revenge on the 3 remaining elders who know of the truth. Itachi might have learned/created a jutsu which needs 2 factors () to implant life force with in, in order to work.

Conclusion: Consider these facts respond to me and then we will figure the delima out!