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    [open battle]

    Reis rr
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    Only reply if you can challenge me
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    Re: [open battle]

    Burp meh. Right dot in sig. Only doing an unofficial though.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Evil in sig, Make your move
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Nekura's be everywhere. z.z

    Ling releases his chakra into the ground beneath you, causing a surge of water to rise up from beneath you. The water ensares you a dense orb of liquid. The orbs density being so prominent that your movements would be completely, and utterly restrained. Ling then continues by performing a few brisk handsals, causing a gigantic fireball to rise from beneath your position, expanding outwards before finally exploding into brazen flames. The fireball would boil the orb of water, cooking you in moments.


    (Suiton: Funshutsu Mizu Kinko) - Water Release: Gushing Water Imprisonment
    Rank: B
    Type: Supplementary
    Range: Short - Mid
    Chakra cost: 20
    Damage points: N/A
    Description: The user creates a flow of gushing water under the opponent which traps them in a sphere of water. The user can perform an attack while the opponent is trapped. This jutsu is similar to Water Prison Technique, though the user doesn't need to keep his arm in the sphere of water.
    Note: Technique creates its own water source


    (Katon: Yomi Doki) - Fire Style: Underworld's Wrath
    Type: Offensive
    Rank: A-Rank
    Range: Mid
    Chakra: 30
    Damage: 60
    Description: This is an advanced katon technique. The user preforms two hand-seals, and utilizing their chakra, they focus it into the ground anywhere, mid-range from the user. The user preforms one more hand-seal, and using shape manipulatio, they form a large fireball that rises from the ground. The user constantly sends chakra into the fireball while compressing it at an incredible rate, so it looks like an expanding sphere of intense flames. On the users command, they can cause it to explode, creating a giant explosion that covers entire short range and the shockwave will reach mid range.

    - Can be used three times per match
    - No fire techniques in the same turn
    - Can only be taught by Toshiro
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    lol there arent that many are there?
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    As the water gushes upwards around him (before it forms the orb), Broly tilts his head to look at you a bit better and creates 5 tall tornados to form in front of him, breaking the water technique with ease and heading on towards you. Completing the fire technique would mean your death in this situation as the tornados will give you heavy impact damage, breaking alot of bones and ultimately killing you.


    ( Futon: Tatsumaki Heki ) - Wind Release: Tordado Wall
    Rank: S
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short - Long
    Chakra cost: 40
    Damage points: 80
    Description: The user generates a large wall of 5 Tall tornadoes that are sent towards the opponent. A flying summoning can create this technique by simply flapping their wings to generate the wind for the technique.


    Broly then puts his hands together, creating lightning almost instantly which shows his mastery of the element. After putting his hands together he places them on the ground, creating a surge of electricity in the ground which will burst forth under you in a storm of lightning tendrils all around in a short range radius of you (5-6 meters) and give you severe damage.


    (Raiton: Ikazuchi no Utage) - Lightning Release: Lightning Burial ~ Banquet of Lightning
    Rank: B
    Type: Offense
    Range: Mid/Long
    Chakra Cost: 20
    Damage Points: 40
    Description: The user brings their hands together and an electrical energy will begin to crackle around them. They will then slam their hands to the ground to send an electric current racing through the earth. When the current approaches its target, it can split into multiple tendrils to attack separate targets individually.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Quote Originally Posted by -Broly- View Post
    lol there arent that many are there?
    _____________

    As the water gushes upwards around him (before it forms the orb), Broly tilts his head to look at you a bit better and creates 5 tall tornados to form in front of him, breaking the water technique with ease and heading on towards you. Completing the fire technique would mean your death in this situation as the tornados will give you heavy impact damage, breaking alot of bones and ultimately killing you.


    ( Futon: Tatsumaki Heki ) - Wind Release: Tordado Wall
    Rank: S
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short - Long
    Chakra cost: 40
    Damage points: 80
    Description: The user generates a large wall of 5 Tall tornadoes that are sent towards the opponent. A flying summoning can create this technique by simply flapping their wings to generate the wind for the technique.


    Broly then puts his hands together, creating lightning almost instantly which shows his mastery of the element. After putting his hands together he places them on the ground, creating a surge of electricity in the ground which will burst forth under you in a storm of lightning tendrils all around in a short range radius of you (5-6 meters) and give you severe damage.


    (Raiton: Ikazuchi no Utage) - Lightning Release: Lightning Burial ~ Banquet of Lightning
    Rank: B
    Type: Offense
    Range: Mid/Long
    Chakra Cost: 20
    Damage Points: 40
    Description: The user brings their hands together and an electrical energy will begin to crackle around them. They will then slam their hands to the ground to send an electric current racing through the earth. When the current approaches its target, it can split into multiple tendrils to attack separate targets individually.
    LOL teh fuq? Breaking a water orb with giant tornadoes? Doesn't make sense.

    Ling simply continues with his handseals, executing his fire technique as originally planned. The fire technique would rise from the ground just after the creation of your Tornadoes, seeing as your Tornadoes would have to dispel the orb of water first, through weirdly unknown means ofc, they would be stationary around you for quite some times. Thus the tornadoes would be set aflame and consumed by the fire, of course you would be caught in the dead center of the two techniques clash, resulting in you bearing the full brunt of the two opposing techniques.

    (Cbb to post the technique again)

    Ling then continues by creating four tornadoes, all positioned at a Short Range distance around you. The tornadoes are created at their maximum size, and create a large amount of inwards pushing force that would prevent any kind of escape, it would also concentrate the clashing techniques towards the center. By performing a single handseal Ling causes the Tornadoes the move across the 'square'. He finishes off by summoning an abundance of water that would position itself 10 meters above you. The water would have a diameter of six meters, meaning that it would fall upon the Tornadoes, and meld with them. While the rest of the water simply falls flat upon you, gigantic crashing waves created by the force of the moving Tornadoes, combined with the raging wind/water blades.

    Fuuton: Yokaku Tatsumaki | Wind Release : Foreboding Tornadoes
    Type: Offensive/Defensive
    Rank: A
    Range: Short - Long.
    Chakra: 30
    Damage: 60
    Description: The user release their Fuuton chakra, and by performing the "Snake" handseal creates four tornadoes in a square formation around the opponent; the Tornadoes being capable of being as big as "Four Pillar Bind". The four tornadoes generate a fair amount of pushing force that is all released center-wards towards the opponent. The pushing wind has little offensive capabilities but it does make it much harder for the opponent to move as they're constantly being pressured by opposing conflicting winds. The tornadoes quickly begin to release the Wind blades that they are comprised of towards the opponent, over the space of a few seconds the Tornadoes release all of their wind blades, resulting in the Tornadoes completely disappearing. The countless blades slicing through the practically immobilized opponent leaving nothing but minced meat. Projectiles that enter the Tornadoes domain are sped up due to the pushing winds. By performing the "Ox" handseal, the user can make the Tornadoes move, they all move along the "square" either to the left or the right. Alternatively this can be used as a defense, creating the tornadoes around yourself, in which case the Tornadoes wind pushes outwards, while the blades are also released outwards.

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    - Can only be used 3x
    - No wind jutsu above S rank for the next two turns
    - Projectiles speeds are still traceable by the naked eye, albeit it might be just barely and only affects basic ninja weapons



    (Suiton: Haran Banshō) - Water Release: Stormy Blockade
    Rank: B
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short - Long
    Chakra cost: 20
    Damage points: N/A
    Description: The user will slam their hands against then ground allowing him/her to summon a massive amount of water from the sky, crushing it into the opponent. If needed, the user can cancel the technique in an instant.
    Note: The water needs to be summoned at least 10 meters above the opponent to have any real effect.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Scaze, your fire technique isn't fast enough to do such a thing. It requires an initial two hand seals, plus a third to raise it from the ground. So yea, the wind continues at you, you perform the fire underneath him. By doing so, you sacrifice the ability to defend from it, allowing the wind to hit you at near full power. Broly needs to defend from the fire successfully in his next turn.

    That should be it unless i'm missing something. o_o
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Quote Originally Posted by Selendrile View Post
    Scaze, your fire technique isn't fast enough to do such a thing. It requires an initial two hand seals, plus a third to raise it from the ground. So yea, the wind continues at you, you perform the fire underneath him. By doing so, you sacrifice the ability to defend from it, allowing the wind to hit you at near full power. Broly needs to defend from the fire successfully in his next turn.

    That should be it unless i'm missing something. o_o
    Sorry can i just add something and feel free to consider this spam but i was just reading this and it seems really wrong to me, Zen added the tornado wall technique based off a game technique as far as i am aware, and that technique requires a giant fan to use without handseals, and as with the rest of the canon techniques that require a giant fan not using one means the technique requires handseals, that being the case then how can you make handseals in a water orb, not to mention the orb is like a meter around at best, if he summoned a tornado within a meter of himself he would have just ripped himself to shreds surely?
    Again consider this spam if you wish but your judgement seems rushed at best mate.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Quote Originally Posted by Scaze View Post
    LOL teh fuq? Breaking a water orb with giant tornadoes? Doesn't make sense.

    Ling simply continues with his handseals, executing his fire technique as originally planned. The fire technique would rise from the ground just after the creation of your Tornadoes, seeing as your Tornadoes would have to dispel the orb of water first, through weirdly unknown means ofc, they would be stationary around you for quite some times. Thus the tornadoes would be set aflame and consumed by the fire, of course you would be caught in the dead center of the two techniques clash, resulting in you bearing the full brunt of the two opposing techniques.

    (Cbb to post the technique again)

    Ling then continues by creating four tornadoes, all positioned at a Short Range distance around you. The tornadoes are created at their maximum size, and create a large amount of inwards pushing force that would prevent any kind of escape, it would also concentrate the clashing techniques towards the center. By performing a single handseal Ling causes the Tornadoes the move across the 'square'. He finishes off by summoning an abundance of water that would position itself 10 meters above you. The water would have a diameter of six meters, meaning that it would fall upon the Tornadoes, and meld with them. While the rest of the water simply falls flat upon you, gigantic crashing waves created by the force of the moving Tornadoes, combined with the raging wind/water blades.

    Fuuton: Yokaku Tatsumaki | Wind Release : Foreboding Tornadoes
    Type: Offensive/Defensive
    Rank: A
    Range: Short - Long.
    Chakra: 30
    Damage: 60
    Description: The user release their Fuuton chakra, and by performing the "Snake" handseal creates four tornadoes in a square formation around the opponent; the Tornadoes being capable of being as big as "Four Pillar Bind". The four tornadoes generate a fair amount of pushing force that is all released center-wards towards the opponent. The pushing wind has little offensive capabilities but it does make it much harder for the opponent to move as they're constantly being pressured by opposing conflicting winds. The tornadoes quickly begin to release the Wind blades that they are comprised of towards the opponent, over the space of a few seconds the Tornadoes release all of their wind blades, resulting in the Tornadoes completely disappearing. The countless blades slicing through the practically immobilized opponent leaving nothing but minced meat. Projectiles that enter the Tornadoes domain are sped up due to the pushing winds. By performing the "Ox" handseal, the user can make the Tornadoes move, they all move along the "square" either to the left or the right. Alternatively this can be used as a defense, creating the tornadoes around yourself, in which case the Tornadoes wind pushes outwards, while the blades are also released outwards.

    Note:
    - Can only be used 3x
    - No wind jutsu above S rank for the next two turns
    - Projectiles speeds are still traceable by the naked eye, albeit it might be just barely and only affects basic ninja weapons



    (Suiton: Haran Banshō) - Water Release: Stormy Blockade
    Rank: B
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short - Long
    Chakra cost: 20
    Damage points: N/A
    Description: The user will slam their hands against then ground allowing him/her to summon a massive amount of water from the sky, crushing it into the opponent. If needed, the user can cancel the technique in an instant.
    Note: The water needs to be summoned at least 10 meters above the opponent to have any real effect.
    Having just released the wind technique which barrels towards his opponent, Broly feels the ground begin to get hotter under his feet and knows that some sort of fire technique is coming from the ground below him. In turn, he instantly expells a torrent of water downwards at the ground that puts out the fire.

    ( Suiton: Suijinchū ) - Water Release: Water Encampment Pillar
    Rank: S
    Type: Defence
    Range: Short - Mid
    Chakra cost: 40
    Damage points: N/A
    Description: A defensive technique where chakra kneaded inside the body is converted into water, and then expelled from the mouth in a dense torrent, effectively creating a near instantaneous barricade that can be used to intercept incoming attacks.

    Broly then looks over towards his opponent who has been killed by the tornadoes.

    Another step towards letting the world know by power


    He then sends his chakra to the sky, and causes a lighting bolt to come down and strike your dead body, leaving nothing but a scorch mark on the ground as Broly turns around and leaves, his white mark of the demon seemingly shining on his midnight black Nekura cloak.

    (Raiton: Ikazuchi no Kiba) - Lightning Release: Fangs of Lightning
    Rank: B
    Type: Offense
    Range: Short/Mid
    Chakra Cost: 20
    Damage Points: 40
    Description: The user sends an electrical essence into the clouds, allowing them to create lightning strikes in the desired location.

    Not a trace left.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Huh? I am a bit confused, but how are you actually capable of creating such a high scaled wind technique, of five tornadoes against a water technique that actually covers your whole body within' a blink of an eye not to mention that Suiton is Scaze his specialty? It's pretty confusing, on my part, and a little disturbing. And I have to disagree with you Selen... First, he starts with creating the water, that will cover from underneath him and would already kill him, however, Scaze continue'd but could have stopped right away, and then makes a few handseals and causes a fire technique to erupt from UNDERNEATH him. While that happens, the tornadoes will somehow, still disagree with the fact that Broly would manage on doing that appear AROUND him, and head TOWARDS Scaze from Broly's location, and their being MID-RANGED area, which means that the fire erupts from underneath Broly as soon as the tornadoes departure.

    So Broly actually causes the tornado's to erupt from around him, which I highly doubt happen before the water covers him, and then Scaze performs two handseals to cause the fire to erupt from underneath him while the tornado's handle the water, and the moment the fire erupts from underneath Broly, the tornadoes would make their move towards Scaze but will get interrupted by the fire. It also has been stated numerous times by distinguished sensei's that you're even capable of performing several handseals before the majority of sound techniques hit. So surely Scaze would be well on his way before his Tornadoes, could exit short range. Also, Scaze his fire technique wasn't created in reaction to his Wind, it was intended from the get go, Scaze begins with his handseals the moment that my water techniques becomes self sustaining.

    And, stopping the fight just because such a tiny mistake... someone can ask another sensei/senior sensei their opinions, but yeah, this is pretty much my opinion.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    [22:58:48] ReXii: Mmm true, it's not of great personal concern, it's just two sensei have contrasting opinions on it, and i honestly think a tornado at such close range would have hurt the user if he even had time to use it in the water
    [22:59:05] ReXii: Just thought asking you would be the best resolution since you know the technique better than anyone xD
    [22:59:39] ReXii: Before it becomes a sensei on sensei arguement and everyone decides to develop an opinion, you know the NB way basically xD
    [23:01:08] ReXii: So just for one nice neat thing your final opinion on these 3 things.

    1. Any damage to the tornado user.
    2. Does the fire stop the tornado
    3. Will the fire hit the user of the tornado.
    [23:03:01] Nirvāṇa .: right okays well for me to give a better conclusive answer provide the range of distance between both combatants
    [23:03:54] ReXii: Mid range
    [23:05:08] Nirvāṇa .: well in that case there would be no damage to the user, the fire technique would need to be used in the vicinity of the tornado to stop it in which case wouldnt hit the user of tornado and in mid range the fire technique user would not make it in time to hit the enemy
    [23:05:21] Nirvāṇa .: so theire only option would be to defend or evade
    [23:06:57] ReXii: Cool, that works then i'll go and inform them, thanks case, it's a hassle trying to get an opinion on a technique that they can't wiki after all
    [23:07:06] ReXii: and play breath of fire dude!!

    Nuff said i think.
    Both combatants have the opportunity to dodge the technique, i suggest Broly edits countering the fire and Scaze continues as though the tornado's are heading towards him still, as Zen confirmed it would take several seconds to reach Scaze with the tornado's.

    [22:47:11] Nirvāṇa .: the wind would continue after beating the water and the fire would be the counter to the wind coming
    [22:48:01] ReXii: Good and that would take several seconds at least for the tornado's to fully form and progress correct?
    [22:49:20] Nirvāṇa .: maximum height probably several seconds but close proximity the tornados could in a manner of speaking reach easily 2 meters in a matter of seconds
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Quote Originally Posted by Shuusai View Post
    Huh? I am a bit confused, but how are you actually capable of creating such a high scaled wind technique, of five tornadoes against a water technique that actually covers your whole body within' a blink of an eye not to mention that Suiton is Scaze his specialty? It's pretty confusing, on my part, and a little disturbing. And I have to disagree with you Selen... First, he starts with creating the water, that will cover from underneath him and would already kill him, however, Scaze continue'd but could have stopped right away, and then makes a few handseals and causes a fire technique to erupt from UNDERNEATH him. While that happens, the tornadoes will somehow, still disagree with the fact that Broly would manage on doing that appear AROUND him, and head TOWARDS Scaze from Broly's location, and their being MID-RANGED area, which means that the fire erupts from underneath Broly as soon as the tornadoes departure.

    So Broly actually causes the tornado's to erupt from around him, which I highly doubt happen before the water covers him, and then Scaze performs two handseals to cause the fire to erupt from underneath him while the tornado's handle the water, and the moment the fire erupts from underneath Broly, the tornadoes would make their move towards Scaze but will get interrupted by the fire. It also has been stated numerous times by distinguished sensei's that you're even capable of performing several handseals before the majority of sound techniques hit. So surely Scaze would be well on his way before his Tornadoes, could exit short range. Also, Scaze his fire technique wasn't created in reaction to his Wind, it was intended from the get go, Scaze begins with his handseals the moment that my water techniques becomes self sustaining.

    And, stopping the fight just because such a tiny mistake... someone can ask another sensei/senior sensei their opinions, but yeah, this is pretty much my opinion.
    First bold, Doesnt kill, doesn't cover the body. The water first gushes upwards all around then forms an orb
    3:56-4:06


    2nd bold, not sure if you realize this but thats what selen said. The tornado is sent and the fire rises below me, scaze used his timeframe slot to attack me and not defend, leaving him to be hit. He'd try to use his tornado's and would get hit by my technique before he could do that. Either way you slice it he died from not defending and the same thing happens

    3rd bold who said that? I would really like to see this, not for this argument but for my own knowledge. Because in Lord of Kaos sensei test HERE scorps stated

    Here for me there is a severe issue: overestimating your speeds. In short range, engaged in hand to hand combat, its unlikely you can manage the handseals for the techniques you just used in such a tight spot. Remember hanzo vs mifune? In short range combat the probability of successfully striging handseals, let alone 4 or 5, and produce techniques to counter other techniques is very low. Even with mastery of elements, even being Sages, that would still be pushing it.
    You cant even use handseals in close combat situations, much less sound? Come on lol.

    Last bold. Come on man Timeframe. Its Water>Wind>Fire its simple. And no everyone dont say that Im disrespecting him because Jokey's had trouble with timeframe on a ruling recently involving Teno and Yubel. I use the wind to break the orb and it heads towards him and he uses the fireball technique on me, using his slot up


    But really I could have just stopped at the 2nd bold
     
         
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    Re: [open battle]

    Quote Originally Posted by -Broly- View Post
    First bold, Doesnt kill, doesn't cover the body. The water first gushes upwards all around then forms an orb
    3:56-4:06


    2nd bold, not sure if you realize this but thats what selen said. The tornado is sent and the fire rises below me, scaze used his timeframe slot to attack me and not defend, leaving him to be hit. He'd try to use his tornado's and would get hit by my technique before he could do that. Either way you slice it he died from not defending and the same thing happens

    3rd bold who said that? I would really like to see this, not for this argument but for my own knowledge. Because in Lord of Kaos sensei test HERE scorps stated



    You cant even use handseals in close combat situations, much less sound? Come on lol.

    Last bold. Come on man Timeframe. Its Water>Wind>Fire its simple. And no everyone dont say that Im disrespecting him because Jokey's had trouble with timeframe on a ruling recently involving Teno and Yubel. I use the wind to break the orb and it heads towards him and he uses the fireball technique on me, using his slot up


    But really I could have just stopped at the 2nd bold
    Stop being a noob and throwing around Sensei's/Mod's quotes and using them out of context. That was referring to close combat, not short range, learn the difference. Close Combat = within Arms/Weapons reach. Short Range = within 6/5 meters distance.

    Also it's been said before that you can perform handseals before countering sound, it's a pain in the ass to find where, but if memory serves me right it was the Q and A thread. Unlike you, I don't lie, twist things, and use things out of context, nor do I throw around Sensei's words as if everything they say is legally fuking binding.
    Lastly, you've still to explain how these Wind Tornadoes destroy the orb without hurting you, and then there's the fact that they'd have to stay STATIONARY, for a while, at very least a hot second, to "break" the orb in your ever so elusive way, that doesn't kill you. You'd need the dexterity of like freaking Itachi and Minato combined x2 to break that orb without hitting yourself. At the end of the day, a 'Giant' orb of fire, rises from the ground, and expands to consume short range in moments before exploding. Again, stop overestimating your speed and crap.

    Yet again, why are you posting that video? Do you think that everyone in this thread doesn't know what such a widely use, rather elementary technique looks like? Do you think that you're better than someone else? That you have more knowledge than them? Get off your high horse, cause it frankly smells like shit.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Quote Originally Posted by Shuusai View Post
    Huh? I am a bit confused, but how are you actually capable of creating such a high scaled wind technique, of five tornadoes against a water technique that actually covers your whole body within' a blink of an eye not to mention that Suiton is Scaze his specialty? It's pretty confusing, on my part, and a little disturbing. And I have to disagree with you Selen... First, he starts with creating the water, that will cover from underneath him and would already kill him, however, Scaze continue'd but could have stopped right away, and then makes a few handseals and causes a fire technique to erupt from UNDERNEATH him. While that happens, the tornadoes will somehow, still disagree with the fact that Broly would manage on doing that appear AROUND him, and head TOWARDS Scaze from Broly's location, and their being MID-RANGED area, which means that the fire erupts from underneath Broly as soon as the tornadoes departure.

    So Broly actually causes the tornado's to erupt from around him, which I highly doubt happen before the water covers him, and then Scaze performs two handseals to cause the fire to erupt from underneath him while the tornado's handle the water, and the moment the fire erupts from underneath Broly, the tornadoes would make their move towards Scaze but will get interrupted by the fire. It also has been stated numerous times by distinguished sensei's that you're even capable of performing several handseals before the majority of sound techniques hit. So surely Scaze would be well on his way before his Tornadoes, could exit short range. Also, Scaze his fire technique wasn't created in reaction to his Wind, it was intended from the get go, Scaze begins with his handseals the moment that my water techniques becomes self sustaining.

    And, stopping the fight just because such a tiny mistake... someone can ask another sensei/senior sensei their opinions, but yeah, this is pretty much my opinion.
    Not True. We are fixing that stuff now. Sound is being broken down into categories. Some stuff is avoidable while other's arent, but aren't as dangerous at the same time.
     
         

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    Re: [open battle]

    Ok so far I've got.

    Gushing Water Imprisonment
    Tornadoes
    Custom Fireball tech


    The problem that I have with both Selendrile's and Shuusai's responses are that they are assuming that Scaze created/formed the fireballs directly underneath Broly, where nowhere in his move did he say so. The tech says it can be done within Mid Range of the individual. Doesnt say that it has to be underneath the target.

    I dont really see much wrong where Scaze can't follow up after Broly's last move.
     
         

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