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    What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I've seen people compare Lee, Chouji, Hidan, Zabuza, and even Part 1 CM Sasuke as being Kage level. Seriously? Whatever happened to the title of Kage, and why is it so easily acheived?

    Well, I think there are a couple things.

    First of all, it doesn't help having people like Tsunade and Mei as Kages. Before, Kages were these legendary shinobi that were often shrouded in mystery and power. Then after seeing Tsunade (but mostly Mei) Kage level seemed to be something that could be acheived easier. As much as you argue, Tsunade and Mei can't compare to any other Kage.

    Another thing is the power scaling. It's gotten to the point where even Kage level shinobi are being sh*t on by these OP shinobi from day's past. I think it's ridiculous how far the power scaling has gone, Sage Mode should have been the strongest powerup Naruto got.

    That being said, bring back the Kage days!
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Sorry, Boil release, Blaze release.
    It's like Hashirama's case, she was picked for the Kekkei Genkai she posseses, and they are pretty strong at that.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edo GwemBaba View Post
    Sorry, Boil release, Blaze release.
    It's like Hashirama's case, she was picked for the Kekkei Genkai she posseses, and they are pretty strong at that.
    Mei gets wrecked by every Kage ever and multiple Jounin shinobi. Sorry.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Well another issue is that Mei and Tsunade have only really had one extended battle ... and that was with Edo Madara, who makes any Kage look weak.

    So that didn't do any favors to their reputation.

    I still think Mei and Tsunade are worthy of the "Kage" title. Especially Mei. Lava is awesome

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Mei gets wrecked by every Kage ever and multiple Jounin shinobi. Sorry.
    Doubt it. MS Sasuke would be nothing but a pile of boiled organic matter if it weren't for Zetsu.
     
         
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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Well IMO Tsunade is worthy to be Kage. She is far better tank than Raikage, plus with her vast chakra pool and medic jutsu she is perfect to just stay in the village and keep others alive just as it was during Pain invasion arc.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I agree with the first part BUT HOLD THE F*CK UP! HOLD THE F*CK UP!

    Tsunade not Kage level? What you smoking?
    Tsunade is F*CKING BAMF. BAMF in ALL CAPS.

    So is Mei, she isn't weak. She could beat a crap ton of people.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I wouldn't consider Mei or Tsunade fodder
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I agree! :I zabuza aint kage level
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Josephus View Post
    Well another issue is that Mei and Tsunade have only really had one extended battle ... and that was with Edo Madara, who makes any Kage look weak.

    So that didn't do any favors to their reputation.

    I still think Mei and Tsunade are worthy of the "Kage" title. Especially Mei. Lava is awesome



    Doubt it. MS Sasuke would be nothing but a pile of boiled organic matter if it weren't for Zetsu.
    Mei got lucky, they were in an inclosed room. How often does that happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainEO View Post
    I agree with the first part BUT HOLD THE F*CK UP! HOLD THE F*CK UP!

    Tsunade not Kage level? What you smoking?
    Tsunade is F*CKING BAMF. BAMF in ALL CAPS.

    So is Mei, she isn't weak. She could beat a crap ton of people.
    I never said Mei or Tsunade were weak. What are you smokin' bra?

    Quote Originally Posted by DissonantValues View Post
    I wouldn't consider Mei or Tsunade fodder
    Never said they were.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    They both have kekkei genkai, and they are strong in their own right!
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I do agree giving the Kage title away easily seems idiotic and it's been discussed poorly and carelessly...
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Mei got lucky, they were in an inclosed room. How often does that happen?
    1) It doesn't have to be an enclosed room (albeit your allies better get the f*ck away).
    2) The fact that she was in a room actually limited the scale/use of her various jutsu
    2) She set it up -> forced Sasuke into that situation
    3) You didn't respond to the first part of my post
    4) I think people forget how skilled Mei is not only with her KKG, but with the individual elements that go into them (that was a badass water dragon vs Madara (albeit, yes, it was also electrified)).

    5) Don't get me wrong though, I agree that "Kage level" is thrown around too loosely these days. I just think you're underrating Tsunade and Mei.

    Quote Originally Posted by Detective Konan View Post
    They both have kekkei genkai, and they are strong in their own right!
    Quote Originally Posted by 5pace time continuum View Post
    I do agree giving the Kage title away easily seems idiotic and it's been discussed poorly and carelessly...
    And these ^^^ :scorps:
     
         
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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Josephus View Post
    1) It doesn't have to be an enclosed room (albeit your allies better get the f*ck away)
    2) She set it up that way, forced Sasuke into that situation
    3) You didn't respond to the first part of my post
    4) I think people forget how skilled Mei is not only with her KKG, but with the individual elements that go into them (that was a badass water dragon vs Madara (albeit, yes, it was also electrified).
    To reply to your first post, any other Kage would make short work of Tsunade or Mei. It doesn't even have to be someone like Madara.

    To everything about Mei: I'm not saying she's weak. I'm saying she brought the level of Kage down. I mean, look at the Mizukage before her. Trollkage would wreck most Kages in his own right.

    As for the whole Sasuke/Room thing, most shinobi battles start outside. Unless she has a jutsu that builds a house, her boil release is next to useless.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    You trying to protect gaara? He sucked as much as mei during that fight. You can't judge the kage from like their first part 2 fight. Or else Tsunade >>> other kage.

    If we judge from this fight its Onoki >= Tsunade> Ay > Gaara > mei. Loosing to the god of shinobi doesn't make you bad and as far as i'm concerned its the only thing you can compare them off of.

    Mei and Tsunade are the only female kage as well. You put that to work. The standard of hokage fell from the moment Tobirama got it :X and A from the previous, onoki from his previous and so on.
     
         
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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I can agree that the whole "kage level" thing reached an annoying level; I mean c'mon for example Lee is my favorite but there is no way he is gonna take on a kage (unless he can open the 8th gate and die); but the name of "kage" is overused. But the reason is not Mei and Tsunade imo; they are really strong but some things get way too op; in fact they are the ones who are on a good power scale. The only kage who is not worthy to the title is the 4th kazekae(based on seen).
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    To reply to your first post, any other Kage would make short work of Tsunade or Mei. It doesn't even have to be someone like Madara.
    Right. The other KAGE would. But they are still Kage level.

    To everything about Mei: I'm not saying she's weak. I'm saying she brought the level of Kage down. I mean, look at the Mizukage before her. Trollkage would wreck most Kages in his own right.
    LMAO! Well that's true. The Mizukage was was hilarious and awesome.

    As for the whole Sasuke/Room thing, most shinobi battles start outside. Unless she has a jutsu that builds a house, her boil release is next to useless.
    It's not useless outside. It just becomes easier to evade. And can also be used to limit the movement of your opponent, that is, create a nice little cloud of boiling mist to corner them before covering them with lava

    Anyhow, no point in going in circles here. I believe Tsunade and Mei are Kage level, but I agree that "Kage level" is thrown around too easily today.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Mei gets wrecked by every Kage ever and multiple Jounin shinobi. Sorry.
    Mei >>>>> Gaara's dad

    Name me multiple jounin that arent kage level that can take down mei
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Many ninja you listed arent kage level, not even close.

    Chouji IS kage level, he's the exception to this.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Josephus View Post
    Well another issue is that Mei and Tsunade have only really had one extended battle ... and that was with Edo Madara, who makes any Kage look weak.

    So that didn't do any favors to their reputation.

    I still think Mei and Tsunade are worthy of the "Kage" title. Especially Mei. Lava is awesome



    Doubt it. MS Sasuke would be nothing but a pile of boiled organic matter if it weren't for Zetsu.
    You forgot mention that Sasuke already fought multiple samurai, Ay, Ay's group, Gaara, and Gaara's group before being confronted by Mei.

    Anyway, Tsunade definitely deserves the kage title. Not only is she the perfect supportive ninja, but she can instaheal and take out somebody with a single landed strike. Mei's kg put her at kage rank. Lava and boil releases are very powerful and tactically formidable.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Hiruzen would lose to Tsunade quite easily. They both are strong. Tsunade is the second strongest kage of the current kages. Tsunade is even one of the better hokages, you can deny it all you want but it's true. Hiruzen was quite pathetic and Tobirama lacks feats. Minato vs Tsunade is debatable.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Tsunade: Can heal instantly and one shot a susan'oo into pudding.
    Mei: Can spit lava and a mist with acidic properties, also intercepted black zetsu, who is arguably, the stronger of the two zetsu.
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Q of the Sharingan View Post
    You forgot mention that Sasuke already fought multiple samurai, Ay, Ay's group, Gaara, and Gaara's group before being confronted by Mei.

    Anyway, Tsunade definitely deserves the kage title. Not only is she the perfect supportive ninja, but she can instaheal and take out somebody with a single landed strike. Mei's kg put her at kage rank. Lava and boil releases are very powerful and tactically formidable.
    True, but MS Sasuke at full power would still be in the same position.

    But besides that, yeah, I agree
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Yes very smart logic tsunade and mei not kage level haha
    Tsunade mastered the same ability like the god of shinobis plus more power than the raikage and coud hold herself against madara
    Mei has two kekkei genkailis and also coud hold herself against madara
    Its laughable to sas that they are not comparable to the others
    The main problem is that the other kages have just fanboys who protect them and overhype some charackters extremly
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    Tsunade and Mei Are Kage level.
    Tsunade Can Heal Instantly, Can Destroy Susanoo's, can instantly kill an Opponent etc. Which puts her at Kage level...
    Mei Has Powerful Jutsu's and is a the owner of 2 Kekkai genkai's...
    I do Agree that the Word "kage is overused".
     
         

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    Re: What's Up With People Taking "Kage-Level" Lightly? It's Overused.

    I would consider Tsunade Kage Lvl. And on NB, pole think if you're not fodder you're Kage level. No inbetwen
     
         

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