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    Laptop advice (shopping)

    What Laptop should I buy. my price range is under $1000. here are the specs I would like my computer to have.
    Intel core i-5 or i-7 quad core.
    Nvidia Graphics 2 GB or more.
    8 GB of Ram Minimum.
    750 GB HDD
    Backlit Keyboard.
    at least 1 usb 3.0 port
    13.3 - 17.3 inch screen
    1920x1080 or 1600x900 screen resolution
    Ethernet + wifi
    Good quality build.
    The Laptop doesn't need to be the newest model.
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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Good luck on finding all that for under 1K
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by chad062388 View Post
    Good luck on finding all that for under 1K
    You can actually.

    I have a 15.6 HP Pavillion dv6 that cost ~$750 with:
    i5-3210
    Nvidia Geforce GT 630m 1GB
    6gb RAM
    750 GB HDD
    Regular keyboard
    3 3.0 USB ports
    1366x768
    Ethernet/wifi
    And although HP laptops have a history of being faulty, their customer service is remarkable and compliant. I've had this baby for 6 months and still no problems.

    For what you want though:
    2GB more RAM (+$50)
    Backlit Keyboard (+$25)

    What I advise against:
    Acer/Asus/Lenovo are all shit-tops. Don't even bother looking in their direction. I might even add Dell to this list considering how shitty their customer service is and the growing failure rate of their products.

    The 1920x1080 (+$150) would seem great because it has higher resolution, but with a laptop-sized screen, you REALLY won't see much of a $150 worth difference, if AT ALL in a 1366x768 resolution.

    2GB Dedicated Graphics (+$50) is too enormous to dedicate to just graphics. If you game/video stream often, you'll only use no more than 512MB of the dedicated graphics max. But the investment is small, so it's up to you.

    i7 quad core ($150?) does pack a hell of a punch, but probably more of an overkill if anything else. Heavy gamers will NEVER use the full capacity, or ever come close, to the potential that an i7 ivy bridge quad core has; these processors are for those who run tough editing/video/graphic programs.

    Best of luck to you buddy.
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    I would recommend the Lenovo IdeaPad Y500. It has everything you want for $999. Its coolest feature, in my opinion, is the SLI GT 650m 2GB graphics. You don't see power like that very often in laptops... especially in this price range. The value for the money you're getting with the Y500 is unbelievable.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834312439

    Full Specs: (It's a bit messy because I copied and pasted, you can click the above link though)

    Model
    Brand
    lenovo
    Series
    IdeaPad
    Model
    Y500 (59359557)
    Part#
    59359557

    General
    Color
    Dusk Black
    Operating System
    Windows 8
    CPU Type
    Intel Core i7-3630QM 2.4GHz
    Screen
    15.6"
    Memory Size
    8GB DDR3
    Hard Disk
    1TB
    Graphics Card
    Dual NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M SLI
    Video Memory
    2GB
    Communication
    Gigabit LAN and WLAN
    Dimensions
    15.2" x 10.2" x 1.4"
    Weight
    6.4 lbs

    CPU
    CPU Type
    Intel Core i7
    CPU Speed
    3630QM(2.40GHz)
    CPU Support
    6MB L3 Cache
    Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 up to 3.3 GHz

    Chipset
    Chipset
    Intel HM76

    Display
    Screen Size
    15.6"
    Wide Screen Support
    Yes
    Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    LCD Features
    LED backlight, 220 nit, 16:9 aspect ratio

    Operating Systems
    Operating System
    Windows 8

    Graphics
    GPU/VPU
    Dual NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M SLI
    Video Memory
    Dedicated 2GB
    Graphic Type
    Dedicated Card

    Hard Drive
    HDD
    1TB
    HDD RPM
    5400rpm

    Memory
    Memory
    8GB
    Memory Speed
    DDR3 1600
    Memory Spec
    4GB x 2
    Max Memory Supported
    16GB

    Communications
    LAN
    10/100/1000Mbps
    WLAN
    802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN
    Bluetooth
    Bluetooth 4.0

    Ports
    USB
    2 x USB 3.0
    1 x USB 2.0
    Video Port
    1 x VGA
    HDMI
    1 x HDMI
    Audio Ports
    1 x Microphone jack; 1 x Headphone jack

    Audio
    Audio
    2 x internal digital array microphones
    Speaker
    2 x 1.5W JBL Brand Speakers with Chamber

    Input Device
    Touchpad
    Multi-touch touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit Keyboard
    AccuType Keyboard with numeric keypad

    Supplemental Drive
    Card Reader
    6 in 1 reader (SD/SD Pro/MMC/MS/MS Pro/)
    Webcam
    Yes

    General
    Style
    Standard
    Type
    Gaming & Entertainment
    Usage
    Consumer

    Power
    Battery
    6-cell, Li-Cylinder battery
    Battery Life
    Up to 3 hours

    Physical Specifications
    Dimensions
    15.2" x 10.2" x 1.4"
    Weight
    6.4 lbs


    Also, don't listen to the guy above me. It's clear he doesn't really know what he's talking about. First of all, he admits to owning an HP then says to avoid Lenovo. Uh... escuse me? Lenovo is known for high quality laptops, not cheap ones. He thinks its impressive that his HP lasted 6 months without any problems. My mom has been using her Lenovo laptop for 6 years without any problems. Half a year is nothing compared to the lifespan of a laptop.

    Also, what he said about 512MB of dedicated gpu memory being all you need is completely false. You can easily max out 2GB of memory now a days, in games that use high res textures either natively (Crysis 3) or through mods (Skyrim). Especially since you want the 1080p screen, which puts an even higher demand on the gpu. Getting 512mb of dedicated memory for gaming nowadays means you will already be outdated- and when you buy a computer, you need to future-proof as much as possible. Because if you don't, you'll just end up spending more money because you would need to upgrade sooner.
     
         
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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased King View Post
    You can actually.

    I have a 15.6 HP Pavillion dv6 that cost ~$750 with:
    i5-3210
    Nvidia Geforce GT 630m 1GB
    6gb RAM
    750 GB HDD
    Regular keyboard
    3 3.0 USB ports
    1366x768
    Ethernet/wifi
    And although HP laptops have a history of being faulty, their customer service is remarkable and compliant. I've had this baby for 6 months and still no problems.

    For what you want though:
    2GB more RAM (+$50)
    Backlit Keyboard (+$25)

    What I advise against:
    Acer/Asus/Lenovo are all shit-tops. Don't even bother looking in their direction. I might even add Dell to this list considering how shitty their customer service is and the growing failure rate of their products.

    The 1920x1080 (+$150) would seem great because it has higher resolution, but with a laptop-sized screen, you REALLY won't see much of a $150 worth difference, if AT ALL in a 1366x768 resolution.

    2GB Dedicated Graphics (+$50) is too enormous to dedicate to just graphics. If you game/video stream often, you'll only use no more than 512MB of the dedicated graphics max. But the investment is small, so it's up to you.

    i7 quad core ($150?) does pack a hell of a punch, but probably more of an overkill if anything else. Heavy gamers will NEVER use the full capacity, or ever come close, to the potential that an i7 ivy bridge quad core has; these processors are for those who run tough editing/video/graphic programs.

    Best of luck to you buddy.
    Listen to this guy OP. I second every single one of his points, he knows what he is talking about. (Dell is shit too, no need to hesitate )
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyo4 View Post
    Listen to this guy OP. I second every single one of his points, he knows what he is talking about. (Dell is shit too, no need to hesitate )
    He was right on a couple points. Just remember OP... 512MB of gpu memory is NOT enough, and Lenovo laptops are NOT flimsy and cheap.
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Hey...thanks for the useful info Vilvake and Unbiased King. I apreciate the time you took to help me out.
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vilvake View Post
    He was right on a couple points. Just remember OP... 512MB of gpu memory is NOT enough, and Lenovo laptops are NOT flimsy and cheap.
    Here are the laptop malfunction rates for general brands.
    http://www.statisticbrain.com/laptop-malfunction-rates/

    You said your mother had her Lenovo for 6 years, meaning it was not manufactured at the time of the given data. One can infer that Lenovo has become shitty over the years in terms of quality, or even that she falls out of the 1/5 category.

    The data shows that HP has the highest malfunction rate, so my reason for boasting how long I've gone without a trip to HP-China is to encourage the OP be open-minded to HP products, as contradictory as it sounds.

    No reason to be condescending about anything; we have the same intentions: to help the OP find a good laptop.

    For your point about graphic card size, I concede and revise my advice; 2GB will be beneficial only while you have the means to use it to it's full potential (the i7 quad processor, 1080p) so go for the full package if you intend on pursuing your original package.
     
         
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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased King View Post
    Here are the laptop malfunction rates for general brands.
    http://www.statisticbrain.com/laptop-malfunction-rates/

    You said your mother had her Lenovo for 6 years, meaning it was not manufactured at the time of the given data. One can infer that Lenovo has become shitty over the years in terms of quality, or even that she falls out of the 1/5 category.

    The data shows that HP has the highest malfunction rate, so my reason for boasting how long I've gone without a trip to HP-China is to encourage the OP be open-minded to HP products, as contradictory as it sounds.

    No reason to be condescending about anything; we have the same intentions: to help the OP find a good laptop.

    For your point about graphic card size, I concede and revise my advice; 2GB will be beneficial only while you have the means to use it to it's full potential (the i7 quad processor, 1080p) so go for the full package if you intend on pursuing your original package.

    Sorry, it wasn't my intention to sound rude or condescending.... I admit that sometimes I am when I'm trying to get my point across.

    And about the Lenovo quality thing.... my mom's laptop is in the thinkpad line, which is designed to be more sturdy. However, I was recently looking for a laptop myself, and I was impressed with the quality of the ideapad line as well. It may be possible that Lenovo has made strides in quality recently. My point to the OP was that he should give Lenovo a chance because they, in my opinion, offer the best laptop for his needs.
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by chad062388 View Post
    Good luck on finding all that for under 1K
    exactly my thoughts, with those specs you're aiming for ASUS ROG or Alienware.. what I don't understand why is it so difficult to get 2/3k$ for a machine you desire... there's many ways to get it...''if you work'' called CC
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    exactly my thoughts, with those specs you're aiming for ASUS ROG or Alienware.. what I don't understand why is it so difficult to get 2/3k$ for a machine you desire... there's many ways to get it...''if you work'' called CC
    Alienware isn't worth it, owned by Dell, and way overpriced. But then again, all laptops kind of are...


    It isn't worth getting 2GB GPU if you're getting a laptop, unless you're going to be running Guild Wars 2 on max settings in world battles .-.
     
         

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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    exactly my thoughts, with those specs you're aiming for ASUS ROG or Alienware.. what I don't understand why is it so difficult to get 2/3k$ for a machine you desire... there's many ways to get it...''if you work'' called CC
    I already linked him to one for $999


    Quote Originally Posted by Stencil View Post
    Alienware isn't worth it, owned by Dell, and way overpriced. But then again, all laptops kind of are...


    It isn't worth getting 2GB GPU if you're getting a laptop, unless you're going to be running Guild Wars 2 on max settings in world battles .-.
    You'd be surprised how easily you can max 2GB. I think that's the minimum he should get, especially to set himself up for the future. (Especially with new consoles coming out. With them will come better, more demanding engines)

    You're right about Alienware, though. They're the Apple of the gaming laptop market.
     
         
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    Re: Laptop advice (shopping)

    Update:
    I bought the Lenovo Y510p. It has all the features I wanted, and was reasonably priced. ~850 dollars for 1080p, 1 tb hdd, backlit keyboard, 2GB nvdia GT750 graphics, quad core 4th gen i7, 24GB mSATA drive, and power to boot!

    Thank you all for helping me.
     
         

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