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    What people seem to not understand

    Ok so the last manga seems to be a bit confusing for most people regarding on what happend between obito and kakashi, and here is what i think of it..

    Obito was deffinetly pin down by kakashi, kakashi had a perfet oportunity to kill him but he stoped himself. Then obito pulls himself up while he is talking and then they show obitos sharingan, which is why i believe that kakashi fell in a genjutsu. Right after they show obito's sharingan obito stands up and walks towards the raikiri and stabs himself, and kakashi was freaking out and remembering What happend with Rin and everything, that is why i think obito is just messing with kakashi's head.

    It can't be real because that was obito's left side (where the heart is) and the zetsu body that obito has is on hos right side, so it isn't the zetsu body or senju DNA.. And if you look in his chest whole it looks like it is dripping blood because it is drawn in black, not white like when his right arm was falling off.. So it isn't the zetsu body, and it isn't real, it is just a genjutsu.

    Prove? The last manga pages...
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    I think so.
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Yeah thats what confuses most people. As you said its a genjutsu
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    I think so but Kakashi is something Hard to deal with He wont fallin on anything Obito throw.....
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Totally agreed on
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    I agree.. But I'm sure Kakashi will break out of it soon. A standard sharringan genjutsu isn't a big deal in the series anymore.
    But I think he'll play along, since he wants to hear what Obito got to say
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    i agree with you
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    What ur saying does make sense,
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Agreed .. It's obviously a Gen Jutsu BR00
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Yes, im not saying obito is going to beat him, kakashi is a lot smarter than obito and can defeat him i am sure.. But obito is hurting kakashi where it hurts him the most right now, and that is on the promise he made obito that he will protect Rin, and we know that because or the past years kakashi has gone to obitos "grave" to regret how he failed on his promise. So we'll see how kakashi deals with this on the next manga
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    it was a genjetsu.
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Oh my god....Does nobody read the manga??? :sy:



    Obito is full zetsu. The genjutsu was to show kakashi obito's knowledge about rin & to mess with his head.

    Obito used genjutsu however It ended as soon as kakashi removed his hand, therefore his "no heart" is real...
     
         
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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Obito could tank a rasengan to the shoulder,face and back.Why can't people understand that he can take a weaker jutsu like Raikari? He's got senju dna for crying out loud, things like not having a heart doesn't surprise me.
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    Oh my god....Does nobody read the manga??? :sy:



    Obito is full zetsu. The genjutsu was to show kakashi obito's knowledge about rin & to mess with his head.

    Obito used genjutsu however It ended as soon as kakashi removed his hand.


    Ok you shut me up right there with that manga because that is his left side, thoug the arm is not falling off and he has blood dripping and also has the zetsu cells driping.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/629/18
    But look at his hole on the chest, he is just dripping blood, there isn't any zetsu cells dripping, just blood.. So what do you think about that?...

    Im not trying to argue or defense my point so dont get frustrated.. I just gave you what i analyzed.. I just want us to analyze by looking at every single detail the manga has provided
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiboriz View Post
    Ok you shut me up right there with that manga because that is his left side, thoug the arm is not falling off and he has blood dripping and also has the zetsu cells driping.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/629/18
    But look at his hole on the chest, he is just dripping blood, there isn't any zetsu cells dripping, just blood.. So what do you think about that?...

    Im not trying to argue or defense my point so dont get frustrated.. I just gave you what i analyzed.. I just want us to analyze by looking at every single detail the manga has provided
    The zetsu part and hashirama cells can spread along his body to do whatever obito wishes. So he isn't necessarily full zetsu
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by avenged sevenfold View Post
    The zetsu part and hashirama cells can spread along his body to do whatever obito wishes. So he isn't necessarily full zetsu
    Yea i agree, i just want to see his point, because like i said his arm wasn't falling off and that is his left arm.. Plus it was dripping blood so we know that was his real body, same thing with the hole on his chest.. Oo and i want to correct him on somthing, kakashi didn't take his hand off obito, obito walked out of it.. Why would they show kakashi taking out his arm as slowly as they showed it, plus kakashi's face was completely in shock, so he wasn't the one taking out his arm, obito walked out of it just as he walked to it
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    Oh my god....Does nobody read the manga??? :sy:



    Obito is full zetsu. The genjutsu was to show kakashi obito's knowledge about rin & to mess with his head.

    Obito used genjutsu however It ended as soon as kakashi removed his hand, therefore his "no heart" is real...
    I agree, besides his spiral zetsu wraps arround the entire body of Obito.




    Are people seriously saying that Kakashi can defeat obito?

    Preta path would have absorbed raikiri like an energy bar had Kakashi proceeded with the intent to kill.

    Obito knows that he wouldn't do it that's why he didn't resist.

    Obito used genjutsu to force Kakshi to stab him with raikiri just to prove a point that he is no longer human.

    Obito is top 3, Kakashi without kurama cloak is top 15, deal with it.
     
         
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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Sage of all Shinobi View Post
    I agree, besides his spiral zetsu wraps arround the entire body of Obito.




    Are people seriously saying that Kakashi can defeat obito?

    Preta path would have absorbed raikiri like an energy bar had Kakashi proceeded with the intent to kill.

    Obito knows that he wouldn't do it that's why he didn't resist.

    Obito used genjutsu to force Kakshi to stab him with raikiri just to prove a point that he is no longer human.

    Obito is top 3, Kakashi without kurama cloak is top 15, deal with it.

    Do you really think he is still wearing that zetsu body?

    He only wore him because he was too weak to go by himself so zetsu let him borrow his body
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiboriz View Post
    Do you really think he is still wearing that zetsu body?

    He only wore him because he was too weak to go by himself so zetsu let him borrow his body
    Yes, it is one of the original zetsus just like the black and white zetsus, not a mere clone so its powerful.
    It's whats allowing him for fast regeneration and use mokuton.
    He is wearing it like Madara still have Hashiramas clone in his body.
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Sage of all Shinobi View Post
    Yes, it is one of the original zetsus just like the black and white zetsus, not a mere clone so its powerful.
    It's whats allowing him for fast regeneration and use mokuton.
    He is wearing it like Madara still have Hashiramas clone in his body.
    Then where is the head of that zetsu body? How come is not coverin obito's head?
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiboriz View Post
    Then where is the head of that zetsu body? How come is not coverin obito's head?
    It fussed with his human body, that's why the inside of his body has also became part zetsu which is why it is able to regenerate.
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Sage of all Shinobi View Post
    It fussed with his human body, that's why the inside of his body has also became part zetsu which is why it is able to regenerate.
    That's a good analyzis since they haven't showned what happend to that spiral zetsu that we don't see him around any more. My analyzes also makes since so we will find out on the next couple of mangas. I just hope it isn't that because if it is, then obito is just too powered up -__- wth is that guy. But good talking to you, good conclusion
     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    Yes i think he used a normal genjutsu to show his feelings, a bit like the one Itachi use on Sasuke to explain something like here.


     
         

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    Re: What people seem to not understand

    That is also what i think, maybe not to show him a memory but rather to throw on kakashi's face once again
     
         

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