Re: Crocodile vs Enel
I was going to leave your comments alone but since you were so nice to quote me, I guess I'll have to show why Enel > Crocodile.
I like how you are trying to use the one blatant hyperbole to back up your claim of real life logic in the One Piece world.
Originally Posted by ziggyZ
Of course other people with logia powers have been shown to follow the real worlds logic. Ace melted Aokiji's ice because fire can melt ice.. Akainu also melted Aokiji's ice because it is also hot. Ace burned Black Beard because fire burns. Monet is cold. Smoker and Caesar both follow the properties of a gas. Every other Logia follows the properties of the real world(minus Kizaru but I'll get to him later), why are you trying to claim Enel wouldn't when the others do.
Enel's lightning attack showed people smoldering after being attacked showing the attack had heat. Crocodile is made of sand. Sand heated up to high degrees makes sand turn into glass. Crocodile was shown to be hurt when he had to solidify, via water turning him into a solid. Glass is also a solid. Therefore, Enel can hurt him when Crocodile gets his ass turned to glass.
Now about Kizaru. The way I see it is Kizaru does more at the speed of light, but only when using attacks like his Yata no Kagami. When he rematerializes, he then is normal speed. Just like Enel, when they use a technique that allows them to move from one place to another, they are that speed. Enel is the speed of lightning, and Kizaru is the speed of light. No way is his combat speed the speed of light, so saying things like "his kicks should literally vaporize anything it came in contact with. Or that he could exterminate the entire OP world in seconds" is not even possible.
Of course I was just showing how Enel could win without haki. I don't even understand how people can say Crocodile could even win with no way to hit Enel. At best it is a stalemate, at worse it is Enel winning due to being turned to glass. Since this fight is with haki, Crocodile actually has a chance because he could hit him(if he is fast enough).
Enel has the best shown feats of Mantra(CoO haki) in the manga. He was able to sense what everyone could do on the island and cast judgement to those who speak bad about him from one place. He is also one of the fastest in the manga. With the ability to know when an attack is coming and the reaction speed to dodge, there is no way Crocodile could land any attack. If Enel keeps his distance, because most of Crocodiles attacks are mid range, he could win easy.
Originally Posted by ziggyZ
So......using a character who has only seen one of the two characters is a plausible way to compare characters? Crocodile was a Shichibukai so of course "Doffy"(a stupid nick name imo) is going to 1. Know about his power, and 2. know if he would be a good person to ask for an alliance since he would know Crocodiles personality. Donflamingo was not as scared as you claim him to be. With his crazy ass personality, do you honestly think Donflamingo was really scared? More like he was trying to convince Crocodile to join him because Don could use him.
What do you think would have happened if Donflamingo met Enel. I bet the same thing would have happened with Enel. Saying Crocodile wins because "Doffy" never met the other person in this debate, and because he was only "scared" of that one person he met is a stupid argument.
If you want to debate properly, show how Crocodile can win. Don't use fanboysim statements and make that your proof.