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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

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    Minato has done this before whats the sudden wank for? Only makes you look more dum when Minato has a whole shinobi alliance to rely on for assistance. He'll never be as good as Itachi get over it.
    you are just mad bro cuz itachi never got such incredible feat
    bashing on minato won't do you any good
    get over it
     
         
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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

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    You do realize the difference between juubi's bijuudama and kyuubi's?

    Be real, That bomb dwarfed hachibi, which is already huge


    Kyuubi's was as big as tobiramas face on the mountain...



    Real minato wasn't teleporting something much much larger than a bijuu.... as I said.. after teleporting kyuubi and 1 or 2 small tbbs , he was out..


    Basic understanding of the mechanics behind space time jutsu,( which was explained since part 1) the bigger the object, the more chakra it takes
    You really wanna do this?

    1. Minato self teleported like 10 times.
    2. He teleported with Kushina and Naruto 2 times each.
    3. Teleported a full powered TBB from Kurama.
    4. Fought and beat Obito.
    5. Summoned Gamabunta.
    6. Teleported Kurama with a bijjudama.
    7. Then he was going to put up a barrier but Kushina who was out of chakra suggested other-wise .

    Even after all these chakra draining tasks the Boss wasn't out of chakra, by the time the TNJ was over.

    Minato performed another forbidden S-Ranked Ninjutsu.

    Then we saw this it looks as his he's recharged.

    This is where he's body went numb .

    8. He then summoned the altar.
    9. took Kurama's attack like a boss.
    10. then summoned Gerotora.

    11. Finally he Sealed Kushina's chakra and his remaining chakra in the Hakke Fuuin [another S-Ranked tech]

    He sealed his remaining Chkara meaning he had chakra left even after all those chakra tanking events.

    Minato is simply chakra bake-mono. So teleporting Juubi's TBB isn't a feat by his standards.

    So please use the Butthurt cream I gave you, here try this one, its from a different brand

     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

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    You really wanna do this?

    1. Minato self teleported like 10 times.
    2. He teleported with Kushina and Naruto 2 times each.
    3. Teleported a full powered TBB from Kurama.
    4. Fought and beat Obito.
    5. Summoned Gamabunta.
    6. Teleported Kurama with a bijjudama.
    7. Then he was going to put up a barrier but Kushina who was out of chakra suggested other-wise .

    Even after all these chakra draining tasks the Boss wasn't out of chakra, by the time the TNJ was over.

    Minato performed another forbidden S-Ranked Ninjutsu.

    Then we saw this it looks as his he's recharged.

    This is where he's body went numb .

    8. He then summoned the altar.
    9. took Kurama's attack like a boss.
    10. then summoned Gerotora.

    11. Finally he Sealed Kushina's chakra and his remaining chakra in the Hakke Fuuin [another S-Ranked tech]

    He sealed his remaining Chkara meaning he had chakra left even after all those chakra tanking events.

    Minato is simply chakra bake-mono. So teleporting Juubi's TBB isn't a feat by his standards.

    So please use the Butthurt cream I gave you, here try this one, its from a different brand

    This the truth i am talking about
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ' ~ Dantee ~ ' View Post
    Minato has done this before whats the sudden wank for? Only makes you look more dum when Minato has a whole shinobi alliance to rely on for assistance. He'll never be as good as Itachi get over it.
    Don't be mad bro because minato>itachi anyday.
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

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    You really wanna do this?

    1. Minato self teleported like 10 times.
    2. He teleported with Kushina and Naruto 2 times each.
    3. Teleported a full powered TBB from Kurama.
    4. Fought and beat Obito.
    5. Summoned Gamabunta.
    6. Teleported Kurama with a bijjudama.
    7. Then he was going to put up a barrier but Kushina who was out of chakra suggested other-wise .

    Even after all these chakra draining tasks the Boss wasn't out of chakra, by the time the TNJ was over.

    Minato performed another forbidden S-Ranked Ninjutsu.

    Then we saw this it looks as his he's recharged.

    This is where he's body went numb .

    8. He then summoned the altar.
    9. took Kurama's attack like a boss.
    10. then summoned Gerotora.

    11. Finally he Sealed Kushina's chakra and his remaining chakra in the Hakke Fuuin [another S-Ranked tech]

    He sealed his remaining Chkara meaning he had chakra left even after all those chakra tanking events.

    Minato is simply chakra bake-mono. So teleporting Juubi's TBB isn't a feat by his standards.

    So please use the Butthurt cream I gave you, here try this one, its from a different brand


    Nice list, but it seems you still don't understand how s/t works.... size = how much chakra the jutsu takes..
    Telporting himself, baby naruto, and kushina would take extremely little chakra...

    The things that would have taken a toll was, warping the tbb, kyuubi and summoning gamabunta.. after those 3 things, Minato HIMSELF stated he was just about out of chakra..

    Unfortunately, all those 3 things combined in size, is no wear close to the juubi, nor it's tbb, as shown, juubi's tbb blacked out the sky and dwarfed Hachibi... if you think Minato can teleport something that large without aid or additional chakra, you're sorely mistaken
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    You do realize the difference between juubi's bijuudama and kyuubi's?

    Be real, That bomb dwarfed hachibi, which is already huge


    Kyuubi's was as big as tobiramas face on the mountain...



    Real minato wasn't teleporting something much much larger than a bijuu.... as I said.. after teleporting kyuubi and 1 or 2 small tbbs , he was out..


    Basic understanding of the mechanics behind space time jutsu,( which was explained since part 1) the bigger the object, the more chakra it takes
    That was referring to FTG not the space-time barrier. They're different jutsus. Another thing is that if the jutsus worked the same way, Minato should have shown some exhaustion. He was exhausted from teleporting Kurama, so, if it was the same jutsu, then he should have been visibly tired from teleporting the TBB since it is the size of Kurama's mouth. However, he showed no effort at all when using the barrier.

    I get where you're coming from, however, there's a difference between FTG and space-time barrier. Here's some differences that proves that they're different jutsu.

    1.FTG requires no hand signs while the space-time barrier did.
    2.The FTG teleport of Kurama was instant, space time barrier was not.
    3.Contact with the target is required with the target for FTG, while space-time barrier is just that, a barrier, no contact was required. Once an attack get's a certain distance, the barrier will teleport an attack without it touching Minato.

    Since these are 2 different jutsu, chakra consumption is different, which would explain why Minato can effortlessly teleport tailed beast bombs.
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Nice list, but it seems you still don't understand how s/t works.... size = how much chakra the jutsu takes..
    Telporting himself, baby naruto, and kushina would take extremely little chakra...

    The things that would have taken a toll was, warping the tbb, kyuubi and summoning gamabunta.. after those 3 things, Minato HIMSELF stated he was just about out of chakra..

    Unfortunately, all those 3 things combined in size, is no wear close to the juubi, nor it's tbb, as shown, juubi's tbb blacked out the sky and dwarfed Hachibi... if you think Minato can teleport something that large without aid or additional chakra, you're sorely mistaken
    Nice points, but I have a different point as to why Minato can teleport a TBB without effort all together.
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    Back then we saw this page, where Kishi wrote :

    "That Unrivaled strength. That carefree smiling face. Aiming for HIS level everyone sets off"



    For many it was clear what Kishi meant by following :





    There were still doubters [and even now there are] even after 502, but this should settle things.



    Taking Juubi's Bijju Dama like it was nothing, that too with a Kunai?? Believe me there was no other person who could have done that, Naruto full BM would've lost against it. But protecting everyone with no harm not even to the surroundings [like back then with Hokage faces]

    Making an entrance like a boss!
    Hashirama could probably tank that too. But seriously, if the village wasn't in the way kurama would have gotten curbstomped..
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    he should have been visibly tired from teleporting the TBB since it is the size of Kurama's mouth.

    Urm.. Minato has a container of chakra... Kyuubi's tbb was much smaller than the kyuubi it self.. as I showed, it was the size of a head on the hokage face mountain...

    After 1 or 2 tbbs, Summoning gamabunta, and sending away kyuubi itself, along with some minor teleports of himself and rasengans.. he said he was just about out of chakra.....

    ftg and space time barrier are two different techs.. but they are both space time and follow the same principles.. it has been said since the beginning of the manga, that dependent on the size of the thing you're summoning or sending away... Which is why kakashi needed naruto's chakra to send away the full hachibi.... kakashi and obito use space time as well.. bigger size, means more chakra and a bigger barrier (kamui is a barrier jutsu)

    It's the same with minato.. even combined, the things he teleported or redirected, do not compare to the size of the juubi and its tbb

    Maybe you don't comprehend how big the juubi is and how big its tbb was..


    The juubi makes hachibi look like a puppy

    and its tbb , covered the skies



    Minato, has never, and I repeat, never, teleported something that large....


    Saying things like Minato can teleport that is insane imo, considering his stamina feats in the manga
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    Urm.. Minato has a container of chakra... Kyuubi's tbb was much smaller than the kyuubi it self.. as I showed, it was the size of a head on the hokage face mountain...

    After 1 or 2 tbbs, Summoning gamabunta, and sending away kyuubi itself, along with some minor teleports of himself and rasengans.. he said he was just about out of chakra.....

    ftg and space time barrier are two different techs.. but they are both space time and follow the same principles.. it has been said since the beginning of the manga, that dependent on the size of the thing you're summoning or sending away... Which is why kakashi needed naruto's chakra to send away the full hachibi.... kakashi and obito use space time as well.. bigger size, means more chakra and a bigger barrier (kamui is a barrier jutsu)

    It's the same with minato.. even combined, the things he teleported or redirected, do not compare to the size of the juubi and its tbb

    Maybe you don't comprehend how big the juubi is and how big its tbb was..


    The juubi makes hachibi look like a puppy

    and its tbb , covered the skies



    Minato, has never, and I repeat, never, teleported something that large....


    Saying things like Minato can teleport that is insane imo, considering his stamina feats in the manga
    I highly doubt it either, but after kishi giving hashirama hiruzen's name and making him look like a god and minato turns out to be the strongest kage, that is when I am truly dropping the series
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xxSasukEkUnxX View Post
    Hashirama could probably tank that too. But seriously, if the village wasn't in the way kurama would have gotten curbstomped..
    If it's the Juubi's tbb, I doubt it.
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Nice list, but it seems you still don't understand how s/t works.... size = how much chakra the jutsu takes..
    Telporting himself, baby naruto, and kushina would take extremely little chakra...

    The things that would have taken a toll was, warping the tbb, kyuubi and summoning gamabunta.. after those 3 things, Minato HIMSELF stated he was just about out of chakra..

    Unfortunately, all those 3 things combined in size, is no wear close to the juubi, nor it's tbb, as shown, juubi's tbb blacked out the sky and dwarfed Hachibi... if you think Minato can teleport something that large without aid or additional chakra, you're sorely mistaken

    There's no such thing here [z]

    Also I know with barrier size matters and that's why I said Minato teleporting himself counts a built man with 179cm height counts.

    And we know the size of Full Kurama [z] It pawned Perfect Susanoo in mass and height and we know how big is the Perfect Susanoo [z]

    This is Gamabunta's size [z] Minato can tank summoning and teleporting these monsters, he can do it to a mobile TBB


    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post


    Minato, has never, and I repeat, never, teleported something that large....
    Saying things like Minato can teleport that is insane imo, considering his stamina feats in the manga
    Are you stupid? wasn't he the one who teleported it? Or are you gonna start with whole Tobirama teleporting it shit?

    Also Minato showed no signs of weakness. Edos have Infinite chkara that gets replenished but they show signs of fatigue I'm going to put the viz for Kabuto about Muu and summoning of Edo Madara after sometime.

    Here look the dialogue between Sasuke and Itachi [z] Itachi had Infinite chakra but as manga suggest it needs time to replinish and that's why Sasuke was concerned about him.
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Are you stupid? wasn't he the one who teleported it? Or are you gonna start with whole Tobirama teleporting it shit?

    Minato can only teleport it because he has unlimited chakra granted by edo tensei.. that's why he hasn't shown fatigue obviously.. because edo's don't show fatigue... Itachi can have his susanno on forever and spam amaterasu for months straight, and will never once claim to be tired...


    And oce again, you fail to understand the juubi's size, if you're trying to compare it with kyuubi

    they are the size of the juubi's finger and hand...

    Juubi's tbb was massive... the tbb minato teleported was a spec of dust to it.. as big as a head statue....

    Chakra feats shown from edo tensei ninjas do not apply to ninjas in their non edo state






    Are you joking or that dense? This was a complete and utterly wrong translation.... and you fully well know that.....

    Minato was the one who said his chakra was almost drained, and Kushina said she could put up the barrier, which she did...
    Confirmed in viz's scans and practically all others

    Damn, common sense should have kicked in when you read that scan.. why would Kushina be out of chakra ? she didn't use one ability.. she didn't fight.. nothing...
     
         
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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    Minato can only teleport it because he has unlimited chakra granted by edo tensei.. that's why he hasn't shown fatigue obviously.. because edo's don't show fatigue... Itachi can have his susanno on forever and spam amaterasu for months straight, and will never once claim to be tired...


    And oce again, you fail to understand the juubi's size, if you're trying to compare it with kyuubi

    they are the size of the juubi's finger and hand...

    Juubi's tbb was massive... the tbb minato teleported was a spec of dust to it.. as big as a head statue....

    Chakra feats shown from edo tensei ninjas do not apply to ninjas in their non edo state






    Are you joking or that dense? This was a complete and utterly wrong translation.... and you fully well know that.....

    Minato was the one who said his chakra was almost drained, and Kushina said she could put up the barrier, which she did...
    Confirmed in viz's scans and practically all others

    Damn, common sense should have kicked in when you read that scan.. why would Kushina be out of chakra ? she didn't use one ability.. she didn't fight.. nothing...
    The jutsu takes toll on Edo's bodies

    This is absolute canon



    Kabuto says that its gonna need time ti summon Madara, now if Muu had continious supply then no time would've required but as seen once a tech is used it takes time to get back the chakra!

    In this case Minato teleported something so big, yet didn't show any signs of fatigue and that's an impressive feat!
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Edo tensei=unlimited chakra. Living minato would die at 23% of teleporting that TBB
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaScythian View Post
    Edo tensei=unlimited chakra. Living minato would die at 23% of teleporting that TBB
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

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    You really wanna do this?

    1. Minato self teleported like 10 times.
    2. He teleported with Kushina and Naruto 2 times each.
    3. Teleported a full powered TBB from Kurama.
    4. Fought and beat Obito.
    5. Summoned Gamabunta.
    6. Teleported Kurama with a bijjudama.
    7. Then he was going to put up a barrier but Kushina who was out of chakra suggested other-wise .

    Even after all these chakra draining tasks the Boss wasn't out of chakra, by the time the TNJ was over.

    Minato performed another forbidden S-Ranked Ninjutsu.

    Then we saw this it looks as his he's recharged.

    This is where he's body went numb .

    8. He then summoned the altar.
    9. took Kurama's attack like a boss.
    10. then summoned Gerotora.

    11. Finally he Sealed Kushina's chakra and his remaining chakra in the Hakke Fuuin [another S-Ranked tech]

    He sealed his remaining Chkara meaning he had chakra left even after all those chakra tanking events.

    Minato is simply chakra bake-mono. So teleporting Juubi's TBB isn't a feat by his standards.

    So please use the Butthurt cream I gave you, here try this one, its from a different brand

    This. And i would like to point out that he also spent chakra to maintain the Kyubi inside Kushina the entire time during that night Minato ALMOST at full power warped Juubidama like it was nothing, yet people try to downplay lol
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by T Bogard View Post
    This. And i would like to point out that he also spent chakra to maintain the Kyubi inside Kushina the entire time during that night Minato ALMOST at full power warped Juubidama like it was nothing, yet people try to downplay lol
    Yeah, I forgot about that one

    Its pitiful to see them denying the absolute canon
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!


    Look how big that shit is. Its almost the size of the juubi. Part 1 living minato never had enough chakra to S/T that, more over it would take way way more time.
    U wanna use kurama as benchmark here? Hachibi was slightly bigger then juubi's eyeball and is same in size as kurama. Look at freaking rest of juubi , how many kuramas will fit there????

    But there are really 2 ways of seeing this.
    1. Even kakashi supposedly can warp juubi. Which isnt really a big feat for minato then, according to his hype.
    2. This is part 2. No this is war arc, everything got more DBZed here.

    U cant possibly deny edo tensei play here. It does help minato get stronger.
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    Urm.. Minato has a container of chakra... Kyuubi's tbb was much smaller than the kyuubi it self.. as I showed, it was the size of a head on the hokage face mountain...

    After 1 or 2 tbbs, Summoning gamabunta, and sending away kyuubi itself, along with some minor teleports of himself and rasengans.. he said he was just about out of chakra.....

    ftg and space time barrier are two different techs.. but they are both space time and follow the same principles.. it has been said since the beginning of the manga, that dependent on the size of the thing you're summoning or sending away... Which is why kakashi needed naruto's chakra to send away the full hachibi.... kakashi and obito use space time as well.. bigger size, means more chakra and a bigger barrier (kamui is a barrier jutsu)

    It's the same with minato.. even combined, the things he teleported or redirected, do not compare to the size of the juubi and its tbb

    Maybe you don't comprehend how big the juubi is and how big its tbb was..


    The juubi makes hachibi look like a puppy

    and its tbb , covered the skies



    Minato, has never, and I repeat, never, teleported something that large....


    Saying things like Minato can teleport that is insane imo, considering his stamina feats in the manga
    You're missing my point. If teleporting Kurama was what exhausted him, teleporting a TBB the size of his mouth should have required effort from Minato. We didn't see it. We just say him completely fresh after that.




    Please show me the chapter where it's stated that they follow the same princibals. If they do, it's certainly reduced for space-time barrier
     
         

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    minato is a boss and he had a epic entrance minato = epicgod
     
         

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    Look how big that shit is. Its almost the size of the juubi. Part 1 living minato never had enough chakra to S/T that, more over it would take way way more time.
    U wanna use kurama as benchmark here? Hachibi was slightly bigger then juubi's eyeball and is same in size as kurama. Look at freaking rest of juubi , how many kuramas will fit there????

    But there are really 2 ways of seeing this.
    1. Even kakashi supposedly can warp juubi. Which isnt really a big feat for minato then, according to his hype.
    2. This is part 2. No this is war arc, everything got more DBZed here.

    U cant possibly deny edo tensei play here. It does help minato get stronger.

    Actually, I can. Edo's capability's remain the same as when they were alive. They just don't get tired. If being an edo means that you can buff your jutsu, then that means that Madara, Nagato, edo kage (2nd mizukage), and Itachi have all been boosted and would have been crushed by the other characters if they were alive. We've seen no evidence of this. Therefore, Minato was capable of doing this when he was alive.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto X man View Post
    Actually, I can. Edo's capability's remain the same as when they were alive. They just don't get tired. If being an edo means that you can buff your jutsu, then that means that Madara, Nagato, edo kage (2nd mizukage), and Itachi have all been boosted and would have been crushed by the other characters if they were alive. We've seen no evidence of this. Therefore, Minato was capable of doing this when he was alive.
    Not quite. Edo capability allows zombie to bypass chakra output limit from the body w/o aftermath. In other words an edo can use all of its chakra for 1 single move and get refilled asap

    Much credible and not BS explanation would be that minato has become sort of jinchuriki of yin kurama
     
         
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    Pfft, it didn't look like he warped the Bijuu Dama to me. smh.
    You need to re read the chapter...
     
         

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    Re: So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto X man View Post
    You're missing my point. If teleporting Kurama was what exhausted him, teleporting a TBB the size of his mouth should have required effort from Minato. We didn't see it. We just say him completely fresh after that.




    Please show me the chapter where it's stated that they follow the same princibals. If they do, it's certainly reduced for space-time barrier
    He fought with obito before though.

    Also Edo=unlimited chakra...but im surprised at how fast he did it, so im guessing he had experience.
     
         

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