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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Hokage oF Leaf View Post
    i like both Minato And Itachi because they are great shinobi in their own place

    but i have to say some thing that never compare anyone with minato because

    1. he is a rare genius who is born only once in a generation as we saw him created rasengan a A rank jutsu after seeing the biju bomb and even he didn't stop thinking about rasengan, he tried to make it more powerfull by adding natural power as a result we saw how powerfull naruto's rasenshuriken is. its probably S ranks Up jutsu.

    2. as kakashi mentioned there is no shinobi in the world who can surpass Minato except Naruto because he is very very very tallented ninja. when minato is a genin he defeated 3 jounin from cloud village in no time and saved kushina

    3. we have seen minato in a fight with A & B (B is powerful shinobi and can control his biju so think how he can be terrible to any one) but both couldn't defeat minato and after many fight 4th raikage came to a discussion that no one could defeat minato. a coment like this from such a terrible shinobi(4th raikage) to 4th hokage so come to think how terrible shinobi 4th hokage was

    4. Minato was feared as yellow flash of konoha... we have seen a few episode of him but whenever we seen minato in battlefield people say no matter what always get away from him.why peoples feared minato so much... so come to think how strong he is(in body & in spirit ) that no matter how strong or how many shinobi stand infront him he will take care all of them all by himself. it prove that he was feared by all nations but anywhere u heard that itachi is feared this much like minato. no u never heared

    5. have you ever thought why 3rd hokage chosed minato over one of legendary sanin orochimaru as 4h hokage because he was full aware of minato's capabilities that how great minato is. as a hokage minato is perfect thats y he had to minato

    6. one of legendary sanin jiraya think him child of propachy. jiraya know him him well and saw something very powerful inside minato so he knew minato can be the savior of the world.

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    7. Its true that minato saved the village from nine tails and tobi and became a hero but dont u think he not only saved the village but also saved the future of world from destroy by taking a a right decision and sealing kurama in naruto and for that he had to die so he deserve the title of hero and the title the savior of the world.

    dont u think he saved ur fav chracter itachi uchiha because to save village mean is to save villageers include ur fav chracter itachi and sasuke uchiha...

    First off Minato was a Hokage... Ofcourse his name would be more known than Itachi UNTIL! Itachi murdered his family then he became world renown.

    Jiraiya originally said Pain was the child of prophecy... Then Minato... then Naruto....He didn't know who the person was lol

    Hiruzen(Third hokage) picked Minato over Orochimaru due to Orochimaru's ambition and even then most the village disagreed with his decision

    As far as minato fighting A and B... That is just situational combat.. A and B are Brute force high speed ninja. So ofcourse fighting the Yellow Flash an analytical counter attacker with teleportation would be the worse possible opponent. Itachi however is a long range analytical genjutsu genius. The worse possible opponent.

    Lastly, Itachi role in the Naruto world was never one in the spot light he worked in the Shadows and completed his missions no matter what they were. Even now after the entire ninja world was saved due to him removing the Edo's no one knows who did it except a select few. Thats just how Itachi was a person who worked in the shadows for the greater good

    Yeah Minato killed 3 Cloud ninjas...

    Itachi killed his clan at the age of 13
     
         
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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    In my opinion, It is meaningless that to compare Itachi and Minato or someone else. Itachi is an another kind of character. He is a summary of this story. He could be the strongest shinobi but he choosed another way.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    i already said on another topic that we dont know much more about 4th hokage but if u said itachi has tons of attack then same goes for minato too.how many powerfull attack he has(Minato) we dont know. when kisame and itachi tried to kidnap naruto and after seeing jiraya protecting naruto itachi said if we both fight we both will die or we both will die with jiraya. that jiraya admitted something that even he cant but minato can and said minato is one of the strongest shinobi that ever existed. if u compare someone with power then minato is very strong

    Mangekyou Sharingan, Susanoo or etc of sasuke could stop 4th raikage @ kages meeting ? no it couldn't then how can u think it will stop minato...

    u are telling minato never fought with a real uchiha but i think a real uchiha never fought with genius minato the yellow flash
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Tobi did NOT fear Itachi at all. Itachi even admitted inferiority. Tobi should also get credit since Itachi couldn't had done it himself, and it was Danzo's idea.

    Itachi only succeeded in stopping a weakened Chiyo, a weakened Muu, and Kimimaro. All of the other Edos were already defeated, and Madara is boss. Itachi also had significant help from Sasuke, so they should get shared credit.

    The Jinchuuriki were already defeated.

    Hashirama was told that Itachi killed his own clan to save the village, to which Hashirama said that Itachi is a "better" shinobi than him since he obviously wouldn't had done that.

    Itachi brutally tortured Sasuke, physically and mentally, breaking his body and making him helplessly watch his family get slaughtered for 6 days, forcing the Uchiha's curse of hatred onto him. Why? Because Itachi wanted to motivate Sasuke to kill him since he thought he should be judged by another Uchiha. Even when Sasuke started to make bonds and be happy again, Itachi ruined that, made him become an enemy of the village, and try to kill all of his friends.

    Naruto/Bee also saved Itachi.

    Itachi didn't make Sasuke good again. After meeting with Edo Itachi, Sasuke wanted to destroy Konoha more than ever. It was talking to the Hokages that convinced Sasuke otherwise.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Ok. Good thread. Since it's another Minato thread. I'll have to write up a brief theory with proof on how Chouji can solo the Juubi.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateDeadpool View Post
    Tobi did NOT fear Itachi at all. Itachi even admitted inferiority. Tobi should also get credit since Itachi couldn't had done it himself, and it was Danzo's idea.

    Itachi only succeeded in stopping a weakened Chiyo, a weakened Muu, and Kimimaro. All of the other Edos were already defeated, and Madara is boss. Itachi also had significant help from Sasuke, so they should get shared credit.

    The Jinchuuriki were already defeated.

    Hashirama was told that Itachi killed his own clan to save the village, to which Hashirama said that Itachi is a "better" shinobi than him since he obviously wouldn't had done that.

    Itachi brutally tortured Sasuke, physically and mentally, breaking his body and making him helplessly watch his family get slaughtered for 6 days, forcing the Uchiha's curse of hatred onto him. Why? Because Itachi wanted to motivate Sasuke to kill him since he thought he should be judged by another Uchiha. Even when Sasuke started to make bonds and be happy again, Itachi ruined that, made him become an enemy of the village, and try to kill all of his friends.

    Naruto/Bee also saved Itachi.

    Itachi didn't make Sasuke good again. After meeting with Edo Itachi, Sasuke wanted to destroy Konoha more than ever. It was talking to the Hokages that convinced Sasuke otherwise.
    We definitely not reading the same manga....
    All the points you made re-read and then come back

    @silverblade LOL
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Itachi is a solider.
    Minato is a general

    Let's leave it at that.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by aimop95 View Post
    Itachi is a solider.
    Minato is a general

    Let's leave it at that.
    SO TRUE but more like Itachi is Special forces soldier

    He did all the dirty work and when he got caught his country denied all existence lol
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellanoma View Post
    We definitely not reading the same manga....
    All the points you made re-read and then come back

    @silverblade LOL
    We must not be, because everything I listed is canon. Stay away from the fanfiction.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    stupid thread.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by XxItachi x View Post
    It is irrelevant, because in order to put someone in a genjutsu you need to look at their eyes ( Sharingan )
    Minato fought Tobi who had the sharingan, so you can assume he did not look at his eye

    Itachi is the best genjutsu user out there, but if you avoid looking into his eyes you wont get caught ( Not counting Izanami which wont work on minato )
    itachi can cast genjutsu with his finger, a troll not so long ago was that hed kill everything just by pointing at them.... as far as tobi goes minato didnt know he was uchiha off tha bat, must have gazed into obitos eyes atleast once for sure, and many more times, they charged at each other while staring into eachothers eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by aimop95 View Post
    Itachi is a solider.
    Minato is a general

    Let's leave it at that.
    this proves nothing of combat rediness, as far as smarts goes at most mianto is itachi's equal.. so your statement is false.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by XxItachi x View Post
    Before anyone mentions genjutsu ! Minato fought Tobi who is quite proficient in genjutsu himself, and Minato had no problem there. So again Genjutsu users you can assume he really wont be at a disadvantage.
    Except Obito didn't even attempt to use genjutsu on him, he was still young.

    These comparison threads are stupid anyways, people come up with the most stupid things like how to counter a move that we know cant be countered in that way. Besides we have barely seen Minato fight with his full arsenal but we know nearly everything Itachi can do so just wait.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    minato was a kage not to be taken lightly even if it is itachi as the opponent plus we havent seen all the 4th abilities either but well see what he can do in the next manga he already made a flashy entrance
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Stopped Edo Tensei making him the Hero of the War and thus allowing the Alliance to fully Support Naruto
    controlled by shisui at the time. invalid.
    the hero of the war is the shinobi alliance since they stopped almost all edos. itachi only stopped a few weak stragglers

    Itachi didn't stop Edo Tensei Obito/Tobi would have captured bee and Naruto using the other Jinchuuriki
    huh? if he didnt stop edo tensei, obito woudl still be in the same situation as he was before, with the edo jins removed from his control due to bm naruto ripping out their rods.
    Acknowledged by the God of Shinobi himself as being a Better Shinobi than him
    hashirama has too limited intel to make that claim properly. he didnt know everything about itachi and went off only the biased opinions of sasuke and hiruzen

    Planned his own life to make Sasuke into the Epicness that he is today
    he made sasuke a violent evil genocidal maniac. hashirama made sasuke epic.

    Saved Naruto and Bee from being Captured by Pein/Kabuto.
    controlled by shisui. invalid

    Made Sasuke good again through his actions and removed the Curse seal / Emo Seal
    no hashirama did that. itachi increased sasuke's hate when they met again. removing the seal got sasuke almost killed by bee

    Haulted the progress of Obito/Tobi due to him fearing Itachi
    he made a deal with him. obito simply honored it. and they were still capturing jins so what was itachi stopping?

    Killed Uchiha Clan and saved the Village from being completely overrun by Uchiha Clan
    put kakashi into a coma, extorted and blackmailed konoha, killed innocent uchiha children and destroyed their greatest fighting force which endangered the village against being overrun by enemy nations, as well as corrupting and turning his own brother inot a danger to everyone and everything.
    also if he didnt kill uchihas, someone else, namely danzo, would have.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    and the whole killing uchihas to save konoha is rendered invalid the moment he spared equal threats (orochimaru, danzo) when he had the chance to end them
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    and the whole killing uchihas to save konoha is rendered invalid the moment he spared equal threats (orochimaru, danzo) when he had the chance to end them
    ^^Very true.. I stopped reading when he said Tobi was afraid of Itachi, then later suggested that most shinobi's in Konoha disagreed with Hiruzen's decision of not making Orichamaru the 4th Hokage. This guy should need to consider his IDOL Itachi's point of view of becoming Hokage.

    Then he have the guts to say that this will end any debates... wOw, it's obvious how biased he really was!!!
     
         
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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by XxItachi x View Post
    It is irrelevant, because in order to put someone in a genjutsu you need to look at their eyes ( Sharingan )
    Minato fought Tobi who had the sharingan, so you can assume he did not look at his eye

    Itachi is the best genjutsu user out there, but if you avoid looking into his eyes you wont get caught ( Not counting Izanami which wont work on minato )
    Some major disinformation going on here and as an Itachi fan, I feel compelled to lay down some truth (no opinion here)

    1) Zetsu said that the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade made Itachi's Susanno effectively invincible
    2) Itachi put people into Tsukuyomi without eye contact. We saw him do this twice in Kakashi & Naruto vs. fake Itachi. He did that through a puppet, mind you. Likewise he later trapped Naruto in genjutsu, as well as Sasuke without eye contact.
    3) Itachi's genjutsu has been praised by numerous characters, including Danzo and Tobi, as well as Sasuke and Deidara... even Orochimaru.
    4) Minato didn't beat Kurama, he just separated his chakra with RDS. Per Itachi's words, he can control Kyuubi with his M.S. which means he could cancel Naruto's KCM anytime he wants.

    Now, for opinion:

    As for which character sacrificed more, I think we can all agree Itachi had a much more tragic life. He died young and was thought of by pretty much everyone as a traitor and a villain, despite being the greatest hero to the village there literally ever has been (again, Hashirama praises Itachi in this regard).

    All Minato did was sacrifice his own life. Itachi sacrificed his entire clan and his own life and his legacy, and condemned himself to living a fate worse than death while dealing with a nasty incurable illness and near-blindness. Itachi murder-stomps Minato on medium difficulty.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by SupErAkaTsuKI View Post
    ^^Very true.. I stopped reading when he said Tobi was afraid of Itachi, then later suggested that most shinobi's in Konoha disagreed with Hiruzen's decision of not making Orichamaru the 4th Hokage. This guy should need to consider his IDOL Itachi's point of view of becoming Hokage.

    Then he have the guts to say that this will end any debates... wOw, it's obvious how biased he really was!!!
    as I said before.. Everyone thought it was a shame Hiruzen picked Minato over Orochimaru.


    Minato even Agrees that he failed as a hokage :-)

    Re read the manga noob
     
         

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    Re: Itachi and Minato it ends here....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellanoma View Post
    your points completely irrelevant to minato > itachi but I will say this... Kushina taught minato how to use the Jutsu so your points are invalid.

    @Sexy Jutsu

    Yeah Im excited to see Minato finally but when it comes to feats Itachi has done more than any one...
    actually ur entire thread is irrelevant to itachi > minato genius

    you were talking about feats in ur thread right

    minato has 1 alive
    and 1 dead feat

    both time he saved the world

    itachi's feats may be too many but none of them come closer to save the world

    uchiha massacre may be a feat but he did only save konoha not the world

    minato has done something like that already 3rd ninja world war by destroying the kanambi bridge he saved the konoha village

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellanoma View Post
    as I said before.. Everyone thought it was a shame Hiruzen picked Minato over Orochimaru.


    Minato even Agrees that he failed as a hokage :-)

    Re read the manga noob
    u are riding over some state ments
    statements and feats are 2 different things
    why do you forget itachi himself admitted his failure

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    and the whole killing uchihas to save konoha is rendered invalid the moment he spared equal threats (orochimaru, danzo) when he had the chance to end them

    and this ^^
     
         
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