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    Why don't we just end this here.

    Naruto has SM, FRS, rasengan, and his shadow clones and summons

    Sasuke has his MS, regular sharingan, fire techs and lighting techniques and summons

    BM, KCM, curse mark, and EMS are powers they were not born with, have had bestowed on them by someone or something.

    In these cases both Naruto and Sasuke had to DO something in order to utilize that power:

    Sasuke had to actually put his dead brother's eyes into himself
    Naruto had to first separate the kyuubi's chakra and use it by force, and then befriend him later
    Sasuke had to get bit by Orochimaru to get curse mark (i think he suffered enough )

    Now, am I right in sayin BM, KCM, CM and EMS are abilities they were not born with but did something in order to actively use and master? Can we just say these powers are in their arsenal and it is their power to use as they see fit?

    edit: sorry for making two threads on this. Just wanted to clear the air a bit after my last one
     
         
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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    All power in the naruto verse can be look at as borrowed except hashiramas/s06p, which is why they are the best.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    I don't know why people are still debating over this..
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    No cause People are ignorant when it comes to naruto
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Who the hell is disagreeing with that? Whoever is disagreeing with that is ignorant.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

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    No cause People are ignorant when it comes to naruto
    To each their own I guess.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Itachi had the MS for nearly a decade, and still did not become fully blind. Sasuke had it for what appeared to be less than a couple of months and nearly became blind. Sasuke wouldn't make it with just MS for long ....

    In my opinion, I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke used Amaterasu to boil water for his bloody tea.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Yes. Any Uchiha who has the balls to murder their closest friend and steal their sibling's eyes deserve the powers granted by MS/EMS, just as any Jinchuuriki who manages to figure out how to control their Bijuu deserves to learn every jutsu granted to Jinchuuriki.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaitonOniKairRasengan View Post
    All power in the naruto verse can be look at as borrowed except hashiramas/s06p, which is why they are the best.
    Theoretically So6P gained powers from becoming the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxItachi x View Post
    Itachi had the MS for nearly a decade, and still did not become fully blind. Sasuke had it for what appeared to be less than a couple of months and nearly became blind. Sasuke wouldn't make it with just MS for long ....

    In my opinion, I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke used Amaterasu to boil water for his bloody tea.
    Yes, but do we agree that (and ems) are his powers?
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaitonOniKairRasengan View Post
    All power in the naruto verse can be look at as borrowed except hashiramas/s06p, which is why they are the best.
    Actually I would say that Rikudou Sennin (so6p) did borrow another one's power. Juubi. Since he used Juubi's chakra to create the moon and seal Juubi inside of it.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    How about Kishi's statement about Naruto=Sasuke, regardless of what powers and skills they have? This is from his interview last year:
    Interviewer: What is your feeling toward Sasuke now that he has gone through drastic change throughout the series?

    Kishimoto: Sasuke is always in the corner of my mind. Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair. So when I write about Naruto, I always have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang.
    Naruto/Sasuke
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    They will equal each other, one way or another.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jusanbi View Post
    Theoretically So6P gained powers from becoming the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi.
    Very true i agree. but even with out the 10 tails the s06p still was freaking powerfull asf
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Rib View Post
    Very true i agree. but even with out the 10 tails the s06p still was freaking powerfull asf
    Yup. SO6P owns all.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlastIt View Post
    How about Kishi's statement about Naruto=Sasuke, regardless of what powers and skills they have? This is from his interview last year:


    Naruto/Sasuke
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    They will equal each other, one way or another.
    Source: http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=181442
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Honestly, it is irrelevant to come to a conclusion whether a character "deserves" this or that power. It is Kishi's series, and I for one have no problem going along with his creations.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Okay they're both shinobi's with power lets move on
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaitonOniKairRasengan View Post
    All power in the naruto verse can be look at as borrowed except hashiramas/s06p, which is why they are the best.
    Both received power from juubi.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by XxItachi x View Post
    Itachi had the MS for nearly a decade, and still did not become fully blind. Sasuke had it for what appeared to be less than a couple of months and nearly became blind. Sasuke wouldn't make it with just MS for long ....

    In my opinion, I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke used Amaterasu to boil water for his bloody tea.
    Susano speeds up the blindess more, and Sasuke abused it.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaitonOniKairRasengan View Post
    All power in the naruto verse can be look at as borrowed except hashiramas/s06p, which is why they are the best.
    even hashi you never know he might have read some scrolls apssed by the so6p to get half his abilities, i doubt he made susensenju.
     
         

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    Re: Why don't we just end this here.

    You'll learn soon enough everyone has different opinions and everyone won't always agree with you just because you want to make peace.

    On the topic at hand I disagree with you and many of us have argued over this to many times to have our minds changed.
     
         

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