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    [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi



    According to Jiraiya,the Sage was a monk who appeared long ago in an age of endless war. He was the first to discover the truth of chakra,and with it he tried to lead the world to an era of peace instead of conflict. He travelled across the land, spreading his ideal and religion, the Shinobi Sect which eventually came to be known as ninjutsu. His great deeds and ultimate desire to bring peace to the war-torn world made him widely known as the Saviour of this World Centuries ago, the sage defeated the most powerful demon in the ninja world the Ten-Tails and was praised as a god for the virtue of his victory.

    Now then how could a man have followers and even a story if he fought the juubi a near decade later?

    And to you all if both of them had a different eye why doesn't rikudou have tomoes?
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    S06P was an Uzumaki, he had his treasured tools, staff and powerful sealings to beat the Juubi

    S06P got the Rinnegan after becoming the jinchuriki of the Juubi sinch other jinchuriki develope similarities to their biiju (Naruto has whiskers, Yugito good at fire style, Roshi mastered lava style, lava armour, Gaara's eyes change into Shukaku's when under influence of Shukaku)
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    2 ways

    1)
    No one knew that Juubi existed (Juubi was hidden) and Rikudou Sennin sealed it and didn't tell anyone about it.

    2)
    It wouldn't make sense how Uchicha + Senju/Uzumaki = Rinnegan.
    Juubi = Sharingan/Spiritual = Uchicha
    Rikudou Sennin = Life force/Physical = Senju
    Juubi + Rikudou Sennin = Sage of Six Paths = Rinnegan

    Rinnegan is a mutation. Since we have already learn that Jinchuuriki does share DNA with the bijuu. Like Naruto with uber healing, 4 tails host with lava release, Bee with Ink release.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by ballerjordan View Post
    S06P was an Uzumaki, he had his treasured tools, staff and powerful sealings to beat the Juubi

    S06P got the Rinnegan after becoming the jinchuriki of the Juubi sinch other jinchuriki develope similarities to their biiju (Naruto has whiskers, Yugito good at fire style, Roshi mastered lava style, lava armour, Gaara's eyes change into Shukaku's when under influence of Shukaku)
    Let me stop you right there thenn where's the sages tomoes at? If that's true lets see what kishi says
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    we cant know for sure till he says it
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventalus View Post
    2 ways

    1)
    No one knew that Juubi existed (Juubi was hidden) and Rikudou Sennin sealed it and didn't tell anyone about it.

    2)
    It doesn't make sense how Uchicha + Senju/Uzumaki = Rinnegan.
    Juubi = Sharingan/Spiritual = Uchicha
    Rikudou Sennin = Life force/Physical = Senju
    Juubi + Rikudou Sennin = Sage of Six Paths = Rinnegan

    Rinnegan is a mutation. Since we have already learn that Jinchuuriki does share DNA with the bijuu. Like Naruto with uber healing, 4 tails host with lava release, Bee with Ink release.
    That makes sense

    NO HE FOUND A WAY TO LET HIS CHILDREN OBTAIN THE RINNEGAN!
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    It really doesn't make sense for the Sage to be born with Rinnegan, the same eye (more or less) than the progenitor of all that exists in NV.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Possibly because the Juubi was full of rage and yin chakra resulting in a more demonic eye, the sage acquired the Rinnegan because his life force and yang chakra

    That's where the sharingan came from, the juubi's eye, yin chakra

    Senju from the Juubi's body (mokuton)

    Uzumaki was the sage's bloodline
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by ballerjordan View Post
    S06P was an Uzumaki, he had his treasured tools, staff and powerful sealings to beat the Juubi

    S06P got the Rinnegan after becoming the jinchuriki of the Juubi sinch other jinchuriki develope similarities to their biiju (Naruto has whiskers, Yugito good at fire style, Roshi mastered lava style, lava armour, Gaara's eyes change into Shukaku's when under influence of Shukaku)
    All speculation.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by OfficialRikudouSennin View Post
    That makes sense

    [SPOILERS] NO HE FOUND A WAY TO LET HIS CHILDREN OBTAIN THE RINNEGAN![/SPOILERS]
    Perhaps you didn't understand what I said. They share DNA.

    DNA get mixed together. With obviously effect his children as well. How do you think Uchicha appeared with 3 tomes Sharingan when Juubi has the first and original one? By Plot?

    Why do you think Elder Son had a different looking of eye from Rikudou? Maybe because he had more DNA from Juubi than DNA from Rikudou. With would mean that he is getting a step closer to the Sharingan than the Rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    It really doesn't make sense for the Sage to be born with Rinnegan, the same eye (more or less) than the progenitor of all that exists in NV.
    DBZ broly was the one to said be godly so doubtless to say anything is possible remeber
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    The Rinnegan came from the Juubi, logically the Doujutsu that is able to bring forth all Ninjutsu came from the Juubi which is the source of all Chakra that fuels all Ninjutsu, the divine qualities of both are intertwined. The Rinnegan is Eye (Sharingan/Uchiha) + Body (Senju/Mokuton) of the Juubi combined, that is why Madara awakened it when he implanted Hashirama's cells.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by ballerjordan View Post
    Possibly because the Juubi was full of rage and yin chakra resulting in a more demonic eye, the sage acquired the Rinnegan because his life force and yang chakra

    That's where the sharingan came from, the juubi's eye, yin chakra

    Senju from the Juubi's body (mokuton)

    Uzumaki was the sage's bloodline
    Scan where it says the sage sealed ying or yang if I remeber he sealed the whole juubi inside his body not no half half
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi


    The Mokuton is the body of the Juubi:



    The Sharingan is the eye of the Juubi:



    The Rinnegan is the Juubi's Eye (Sharingan) + Body (Mokuton) combined:



    The Uzumaki Heritage (Life Force + Sealing Jutsu) is Rikudou Sennin's original bloodline prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki:



    Rikudou Sennin divided himself into Yin and Yang:



    The Juubi's Yin became the Uchiha:



    The Juubi's Yang became the Senju:



    The Senju and Uchiha then are the body and the eye of the Juubi

    Therefore the equation is:

    Uzumaki (Rikudou Sennin) + Juubi = Senju (Mokuton/Yang) and Uchiha (Sharingan/Yin)


     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    The Rinnegan came from the Juubi, logically the Doujutsu that is able to bring forth all Ninjutsu came from the Juubi which is the source of all Chakra that fuels all Ninjutsu, the divine qualities of both are intertwined. The Rinnegan is Eye (Sharingan/Uchiha) + Body (Senju/Mokuton) of the Juubi combined, that is why Madara awakened it when he implanted Hashirama's cells.
    Derp. By logic ninjustu was bought fourth before the fight and that rikudou sennin had founded chakra......
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by OfficialRikudouSennin View Post
    Derp. By logic ninjustu was bought fourth before the fight and that rikudou sennin had founded chakra......
    It doesn't mean that the Rinnegan was the sole instrument of how Rikudou discovered Chakra. There are many possibilities Kishimoto will devise on how Rikudou created Ninjutsu prior to his acquisition of the Rinnegan from the Juubi.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Good effort , keep it up :D
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    I don't think it strains credulity that the Rinnegan and the Juubi's Eye are related:

     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Exactly what I mean. Derp saves the day

    Rikudou was an Uzumaki

    Uzumaki were feared for their powerful fuinjutsu, Kushina's chakra chains looked exactly like the Gedo mazou's (Juubi's shell)

    Uzumaki (Juubi) = Senju + Uchiha
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    The Rinnegan is the regulated Doujutsu of the Juubi:



    That is why the Rinnegan's abilities are vastly different from the Sharingan, because the Juubi's influence doesn't corrupt the user, the Sharingan is the eye that reflects feelings, meaning any alteration of emotions could easily sway or corrupt the user, look at the Elder Son, because of his hatred for not being chosen as his father's successor his eye mutated into the Sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    It doesn't mean that the Rinnegan was the sole instrument of how Rikudou discovered Chakra. There are many possibilities Kishimoto will devise on how Rikudou created Ninjutsu prior to his acquisition of the Rinnegan from the Juubi.
    Derp.,..jiraiya statement over us
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by OfficialRikudouSennin View Post
    Derp.,..jiraiya statement over us
    -_-

    Doesn't say anything. Only that Sage of Six Paths possessed the Rinnegan and that's true. But it doesn't prove that he was born with Rinnegan, and so far there is nothing that makes sense that makes him being borned with it.

    Like I said. He could as well been started being knowledge as Sage of Six Paths after sealing Juubi. He could have found the meaning of true chakra after sealing Juubi.

    And so could Rikudou Sennin have done after sealing Juubi. So far it make so much more sense that he sealed Juubi and then obtained Rinnegan.

    And that would make more sense because Nagato was the same by Jiraya, that those who poses the eyes learn high level jutsus of all natures in almost instant.
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Derp you forgot xD
    I knew the sage was a uzumaki
    I made threads aabout the ancestors being ying. And yang (I'm the 1st
    I pretty much sttarted that
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventalus View Post
    -_-

    Doesn't say anything. Only that Sage of Six Paths possessed the Rinnegan and that's true. But it doesn't prove that he was born with Rinnegan, and so far there is nothing that makes sense that makes him being borned with it.

    Like I said. He could as well been started being knowledge as Sage of Six Paths after sealing Juubi. He could have found the meaning of true chakra after sealing Juubi.
    =^-_-^= if you paid attention we was discussion about who gavve birth to ninjustu so lleave me and my friend derp to discuss
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfficialRikudouSennin View Post
    =^-_-^= if you paid attention we was discussion about who gavve birth to ninjustu so lleave me and my friend derp to discuss
    I am not focusing about who gave birth to Ninjutsus, I am thinking about this "[Theory] Rikudou Sennin Had Rinnegan Before He Fought Juubi"

    But sure I should quit then if that isn't what you meant.
     
         

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