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    The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    So what do you think was the difference between Madara and Hashirama?

    Hashirama came became to be known as the God of Shinobi and the most feared man of his time.... while Madara just became a guy who Hashirama defeated, and not really respected...

    So here is my analysis of their power:

    Hashirama was always superior a level. Ever since they met, Madara was trying to throw a stone across the river, but couldn't.... while Hashirama was already capable of doing it. This basically foreshadows that Hashirama was always a step ahead of Madara.


    Later on in their VOTE fight..... Madara believed he was ahead of Hashirama , since he had Kurama under his control .. but then Hashirama does the Buddha technique and fodderizes kurama and PS..... again proving he is 1 step ahead of Madara.



    This leads me to believe that there was always 1 or 2 level difference between Madara and Hashirama. So currently people say Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama.... however I disagree..... You can't say one is stronger then the other now.. when Hashirama's powers weren't even completely shown.

    Now as far as their presence in Edo tensei goes... Hashirama's presence makes him LOOK stronger... Madara has his Mokuton.... but he doesn't have Hashirama's body. He doesn't have the intelligence, the scroll of seal jutsus and so on.

    SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Hashi is stronger. Madara has those techs, but Hashi created them from scratch. He knows the ins and outs of them. Plus he knows more. Madara can only use the ones Hashi has shown him in their fights. Though that's the case, it would still truly be a fight of gods. Anyone interfering is instantly fodderized. Besides a select few of course.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Since Madara possesses Rinnegan and Wood Release, Hashi has no chance
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by Inanimated View Post
    Hashi is stronger. Madara has those techs, but Hashi created them from scratch. He knows the ins and outs of them. Plus he knows more. Madara can only use the ones Hashi has shown him in their fights. Though that's the case, it would still truly be a fight of gods. Anyone interfering is instantly fodderized. Besides a select few of course.
    -sigh- sadly so. So my belief is either Hashirama and Madara take their fight somewhere else..... or they don't go full out.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaffaTalk View Post
    Since Madara possesses Rinnegan and Wood Release, Hashi has no chance
    Hashirama has a tougher body.... O_o. stronger wood jutsu... and hell scroll of seals xD
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    -sigh- sadly so. So my belief is either Hashirama and Madara take their fight somewhere else..... or they don't go full out.
    If they went all out, the Shinobi alliance would just die. Naruto has a slight chance of dying if he doesn't escape in time. Naruto at this point, I'm sad to say, is not on their level yet. Mastering maybe 1 or 2 more jutsu seals his spot in top 3 for sure though.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    hashirama>madara. there is literally nothing to discuss on this topic.

    hashirama would be able to defeat edo madara+kyuubi.

    madaras full power is still PS and hashiramas full power surpasses PS fused with the kyuubi therefore, madaras new abilities arent a factor in a fight between him and hashirama. only his PS can potentially make a difference and that was inferior to hashirama even when fused with the kyuubi in the manga.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Hashi is just a level higher whatever that means
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    There is no rivalry between the hammer and the nail ! If they were not close in power there would have been no need for multiple battles . Nor would they be rivals
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    hashirama>madara. there is literally nothing to discuss on this topic.

    hashirama would be able to defeat edo madara+kyuubi.

    madaras full power is still PS and hashiramas full power surpasses PS fused with the kyuubi therefore, madaras new abilities arent a factor in a fight between him and hashirama. only his PS can potentially make a difference and that was inferior to hashirama even when fused with the kyuubi in the manga.
    What?

    When they fought last time Hashi fell on the ground worn out, so there's no question whether he be dropped again or not, since Madara has awakened Rinnegan and acquired Mokuton, but what's more crucial he IS capable of Yin&Yang Release...:scorps:
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Mokuton will probably be useless for Madara to use, if they do fight. . I'd say the Rinnegan and PS would probably put him to Hashirama's level. A bit below, I still think.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Hashirama was meant to be the strongest character in narutoverse after the sage. And it's true, Even kabuto with his edo's Completely admitted inferiority to him and hyped him up. Hashirama is truly the strongest Shinobi Because of his will of fire, His good heart and his determination.

    Same as naruto.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by JaffaTalk View Post
    What?

    When they fought last time Hashi fell on the ground worn out, so there's no question whether he be dropped again or not, since Madara has awakened Rinnegan and acquired Mokuton, but what's more crucial he IS capable of Yin&Yang Release...:scorps:
    hashirama only had trouble with PS/kyuubi. if edo madara attempts to use mokuton against hashirama when he has shinsuusenju out, he gets oneshotted within seconds.
    only PS and that alone will put madara on hashiramas level. his fodder techs(mokuton, rinnegan) wont make a difference.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    hashirama only had trouble with PS/kyuubi. if edo madara attempts to use mokuton against hashirama when he has shinsuusenju out, he gets oneshotted within seconds.
    only PS and that alone will put madara on hashiramas level. his fodder techs(mokuton, rinnegan) wont make a difference.
    rinnegan will help him out, but will not win the fight for him. hashirama's techs are large scale and he can also fight mid and close range too.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Let's hope that ShinshuuSenju wasn't Hashirama's true power.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by EPICMenma View Post
    Let's hope that ShinshuuSenju wasn't Hashirama's true power.
    its enough to solo anything madara throws at him. .

    It soloed PS and Kyuubi at the same time with 10 or so TBB slashes.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by SageModeV2 View Post
    its enough to solo anything madara throws at him. .

    It soloed PS and Kyuubi at the same time with 10 or so TBB slashes.
    But, What if Juubi throw a little TTB at Shinsuusenju, would it be destroyed by Juubi, like Naruto chapter 613, ?
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by EPICMenma View Post
    But, What if Juubi throw a little TTB at Shinsuusenju, would it be destroyed by Juubi, like Naruto chapter 613, ?
    Madara does not control the juubi anymore.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by EPICMenma View Post
    But, What if Juubi throw a little TTB at Shinsuusenju, would it be destroyed by Juubi, like Naruto chapter 613, ?
    o-o. No Hashirama can counter it just like he countered the Kyuubi's
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    o-o. No Hashirama can counter it just like he countered the Kyuubi's
    he doesn't have to, madara does not control the juubi anymore since obito is not there.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by SageModeV2 View Post
    he doesn't have to, madara does not control the juubi anymore since obito is not there.
    but the juubi can launch a random tbb ;p lol. So just in case you know.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    but the juubi can launch a random tbb ;p lol. So just in case you know.
    well in that case, He can counter it as well. :D
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Well...if you go by their last fight Madara in direct combat was stronger than Hashirama, no? Just asking as Madara was the last one standing *in direct combat*. By that it would make them equal, or Madara slightly stronger? I'm just speculating as no one but Kishi knows. I wouldn't dare be intrepid enough to try and state facts about something I didn't create. Atm I believe Madara is far stronger due to being beyond his prime, and Hashirama weaker than his. Just my opinion.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Hashirama will be beaten fiercely when he fights Edo Madara. You guys are delusional
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Any thread involving Hashirama is wanked. Someone just said rinnegan is fodder
    /thread
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Madara and Hashirama (alive)

    Quote Originally Posted by RikudouMadara View Post
    Well...if you go by their last fight Madara in direct combat was stronger than Hashirama, no? Just asking as Madara was the last one standing *in direct combat*. By that it would make them equal, or Madara slightly stronger? I'm just speculating as no one but Kishi knows. I wouldn't dare be intrepid enough to try and state facts about something I didn't create. Atm I believe Madara is far stronger due to being beyond his prime, and Hashirama weaker than his. Just my opinion.
    Madara was in direct combat with a clone.... not Hashirama himself.. Hashirama was standing somewhere else. Note that Hashirama got off the buddha instead staying on it and finishing of Madara.


    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyindigo View Post
    Any thread involving Hashirama is wanked. Someone just said rinnegan is fodder
    /thread
    maybe you should provide a argument....
     
         

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