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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

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    No problem bro. I can't wait for the next chapter to come out. Hopefully it comes out early like Bleach, lol.
    Me too, ive only just watched all the eps in bleach up to 253 and now im thinking or reading the manga
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

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    A couple people have said "definitely not" to my idea about Sasuke getting the Rinnegan eventually. But those ideas only seem to come from people not believing that a person with one special eye cannot have another one. This seems like a strange assumption to make with no evidence.

    If the Rinnegan is a mutation, like Kakashi suggests, couldn't the eyes of a sharingan user mutate to become Rinnegan? Maybe it would be a smaller mutation since the sharingan already is genetically similar. Nagato's DNA or eyes could be inserted into Sasuke using techniques that other Akatsuki members have already perfected. If Madara is so old, maybe he can get access to the actual DNA of the sage of the Six Paths, and give that to Sasuke. Maybe Pain's Rinnegan could be transplanted into Sasuke's arm, like sharingan were transplanted into Danzou's. There are lots of possibilities here, I don't know why anybody would say it's impossible. (Unlikely, yes. Impossible, no).

    We have only seen the statue of the outer path be controlled by Pain, a Rinnegan user. We have seen Madara say he wanted to "synchonize" Sasuke with that statue. What else could he mean? How else do they control the statue without the Rinnegan? I'm sure a statue like that doesn't come with an instruction manual and an easy control interface.
    Hey man i just remeber reading the manga and it said that the rinnegan comes out in times of War like with nagato IT then preposes a situation where by Naruto not sasuke can infact get a rinnegan since he after-all will be the S06P and sasuke it is my belife will unlock/get EMS with some power to contend with rinnegan but he will one up sasuke by joining Sage+Kyubii chakra in a space-time jutsu (FTG) lol to whoop ass and take some names
    FURTHER NOTE !
    it went like this when the s06p died he gifted the rinnegan to one son and his chakra pool to the other over years of interbreeding the bloodline thinned and mutated into the Hygua eye and then it mutated once more into the sharingan eye .... as stated by Kakashi/Madara (when he had naturo in the box of wood) HOWEVER ! i think he is lieing cause when you see the 10 tails he seems to have a rinnegan+sharingan eye so i think he is bending the truth to mindrape people into doing what he wants
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Hey man i just remeber reading the manga and it said that the rinnegan comes out in times of War like with nagato IT then preposes a situation where by Naruto not sasuke can infact get a rinnegan since he after-all will be the S06P and sasuke it is my belife will unlock/get EMS with some power to contend with rinnegan but he will one up sasuke by joining Sage+Kyubii chakra in a space-time jutsu (FTG) lol to whoop ass and take some names
    FURTHER NOTE !
    it went like this when the s06p died he gifted the rinnegan to one son and his chakra pool to the other over years of interbreeding the bloodline thinned and mutated into the Hygua eye and then it mutated once more into the sharingan eye .... as stated by Kakashi/Madara (when he had naturo in the box of wood) HOWEVER ! i think he is lieing cause when you see the 10 tails he seems to have a rinnegan+sharingan eye so i think he is bending the truth to mindrape people into doing what he wants

    I thought he gave the sharringan to his eldest son and his body to his youngest son, like uchiha and senju, then he made the youngest son the succesor and the elder son with the sharingan filled with hatred, then tried to kill his brother, and this is the reason senju and uchiha have been fighting for so long?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    I thought he gave the sharringan to his eldest son and his body to his youngest son, like uchiha and senju, then he made the youngest son the succesor and the elder son with the sharingan filled with hatred, then tried to kill his brother, and this is the reason senju and uchiha have been fighting for so long?
    Naruto 462 page 12 | One Manga
    No bro from what i see it is infact a rinnegan eye take a look
    The rivialry came from both brothers wanting to be leader and he assigned the duty to the youngest boy lol so it's been passed down between Senju and Uchiha the decentants of the origal bloodlines haha so i get from it ... Uchiha want to be hokage but it's been a Senju position and so the fights break out Madara and Haroshima and now Naruto and Sasuke and lets not forget maybe Yamato and Madara since he is basically the frist reincarnated lol pick up the old battle where they left off hahaha
    But kakshi did say due to the thinning of the bloodlines mutations occared creating the Sharingan and the Hyuga eye (i'll serch for the manga for you
    Altho i may be misreading or misunderstanding it ... so be kind lol
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Naruto 462 page 12 | One Manga
    No bro from what i see it is infact a rinnegan eye take a look
    The rivialry came from bothe brothers wanting to be leader and he assigned the duty to the youngest boy lol so it's been passed down between Senju and Uchiha the decentants of the origal bloodlines haha so i get from it ... Uchiha want to be hokage but it's been a Senju position and so the fights break out Madara and Haroshima and now Naruto and Sasuke and lets not forget maybe Yamato and Madara since he is basically the frist reincarnated lol pick up the old battle where they left off hahaha

    Oh right, my bad, its the desendents of the elder that are the uchiha

    Naruto 462 page 13 | One Manga
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    Oh right, my bad, its the desendents of the elder that are the uchiha

    Naruto 462 page 13 | One Manga
    yea ... but Naruto isn't a senju tho ... it forshadows but his dad wasn't senju minato unless he changed his name like he gave naruto his mom's last name i Find it extremely weird you find out who your parents are and Hinata tells you she loves you hahaha and both go out with the wind lol Naruto hasn't tried to figure out anything else about his history or talked with hinata since pein which i think is total bullshit
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    yea ... but Naruto isn't a senju tho ... it forshadows but his dad wasn't senju minato unless he changed his name like he gave naruto his mom's last name i Find it extremely weird you find out who your parents are and Hinata tells you she loves you hahaha and both go out with the wind lol Naruto hasn't tried to figure out anything else about his history or talked with hinata since pein which i think is total bullshit
    I dont think any of the senju clan have the name senju but i think that Naruto and minato are senju
    Also i guess he hasnt had time to get everything together really like his parents and hinata and all that, its all been since the pain invasion and then the kage sumit and now sasuke in darkness and that, he hasnt had time but his will do after this whole revelation and when the sasuke danzo fight is over
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    yea ... but Naruto isn't a senju tho ... it forshadows but his dad wasn't senju minato unless he changed his name like he gave naruto his mom's last name i Find it extremely weird you find out who your parents are and Hinata tells you she loves you hahaha and both go out with the wind lol Naruto hasn't tried to figure out anything else about his history or talked with hinata since pein which i think is total bullshit
    i think madara says, that naruto IS a senju or more differentiated you may say, he has the blood of a senju, which is more or less the same. here we come to the question "where are all the senjus?". uchiha and senju founded konoha. bu there seems to be no senju-clan in the way we know the uchiha-clan. i think the senju's blood was more thinned out than the uchiha's over the time and you can't talk of a clan anymore.

    moreover i think that we all are trying to hard to understand everything. some things may just don't make sense because kishi developed his story over the time and ideas came in and came out and in the end there have to be some dissonances though. like he first said that the 2-tails was a soul of a monk of the sand and later he says that it was part of the juubi... i hope i'm not wrong about that.

    i hope my thoughts come together way clearly, although i'm quite drunk^^
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Kishimoto said that naruto is going to train again, i wonder where and with who?!!

    But he really needs improval, come on, he as the wind as a natural element and the only thing he do with it is in the fuuton rasengan, he will not be doing rasengans like mad just to stop sasuke lightning when fighting with him.
    And that weakness against genjutsu must be overcomed otherwise against eye tehcniques, he stands with no chance at all.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Hey man i just remeber reading the manga and it said that the rinnegan comes out in times of War like with nagato IT then preposes a situation where by Naruto not sasuke can infact get a rinnegan since he after-all will be the S06P and sasuke it is my belife will unlock/get EMS with some power to contend with rinnegan but he will one up sasuke by joining Sage+Kyubii chakra in a space-time jutsu (FTG) lol to whoop ass and take some names
    FURTHER NOTE !
    it went like this when the s06p died he gifted the rinnegan to one son and his chakra pool to the other over years of interbreeding the bloodline thinned and mutated into the Hygua eye and then it mutated once more into the sharingan eye .... as stated by Kakashi/Madara (when he had naturo in the box of wood) HOWEVER ! i think he is lieing cause when you see the 10 tails he seems to have a rinnegan+sharingan eye so i think he is bending the truth to mindrape people into doing what he wants
    Remember, Madara declared the fourth Ninja war. If people actually start fighting, this will be a time of war, which is when the Rinnegan appears.

    Sasuke is under stress, has chakra and abilities that are strongly tied to his anger, and it's a time of war. Sounds like a good recipe for Rinnegan to me.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Narut0h0lic View Post
    Kishimoto said that naruto is going to train again, i wonder where and with who?!!

    But he really needs improval, come on, he as the wind as a natural element and the only thing he do with it is in the fuuton rasengan, he will not be doing rasengans like mad just to stop sasuke lightning when fighting with him.
    And that weakness against genjutsu must be overcomed otherwise against eye tehcniques, he stands with no chance at all.
    Let's look at the areas where Naruto is traditionally considered weak, and training could make him better:
    1) Genjutsu (use and defense)
    2) Strategy/Planning (Though he did show better-than-average strategy against Pain, so this might not be a weakness anymore)
    3) Elemental Chakra Control (he has only one elemental attack)
    4) Fox control (When the fox takes over Naruto loses all control. He needs to be able to take more conscious control over the fox)
    5) Depth. Naruto knows and uses very few techniques. Mastering more techniques will give him more depth and help to surprise his enemies
    6) Range. Naruto is a melee fighter, and with the exception of the Rasen Shuruken he has no ranged attacks. The Rasen Shuruken is more like a nuclear missle than a machine gun.

    Here is a list of areas where Naruto is good, but has the potential to become awesome with advanced training:
    1) Taijutsu/Frog Katas
    2) Sage Mode (Good mastery of Sage mode, but not good endurance with it)
    3) Summoning
    4) Speed (mastering Space/time jutsus, flying thundergod technique, or body flicker would be a huge help here)
    5) Rasengan (with training should be able to make it with only one hand, etc)

    And here is a list of things that we haven't really seen Naruto use, but he will want to be good with eventually if he wants to tussle with Sasuke:
    1) Weapons
    2) Sealing jutsus (using and dispelling seals)

    In terms of his weaknesses, any intelligent ninja could help him. Shikamaru or Kakashi could help him with his genjutsu and strategy/planning. Somebody like Tsunade, a Hyuga, or any medical-nin could help with his chakra control. Kakashi would be the best to teach him new jutsu to improve his depth, though lots of people could help with that too. Maybe Naruto just needs to get his ass into a library and start learning some powerful techniques that nobody knows.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    Well its only half of the kyuubis chakra, does madara know that?
    That's a very good point. The other half was sealed inside Minato using the death demon consuming seal. I wonder if Madara is going to need both halves? Maybe they've robbed the grave already.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Juuken View Post

    Is that so? Can you post the chapter and page verifying this statement of yours because I think you are quite incorrect. From what I know Minato's jutsu is exclusive to him.
    I posited this previously. It's just a guess, really. My logic goes as follows:
    1) Minato used the technique during the ninja war
    2) Kakashi had a sharingan during at least part of the ninja war
    3) Sharingan allows him to immediately learn any technique he sees
    4) As members of the same team, it's likely that Kakashi saw Minato use the Flying Thunder God Technique at least once.

    *IF* anybody is alive who could help teach that technique to Naruto, I think it's Kakashi.

    Alternatives would be Minato teaching it to Naruto himself (through a "program" in Naruto's sub-conscious), or Naruto learning it from a written record somewhere. Jiraya might have known the secret of the Jutsu as Minato's teacher, and as a writer he may have left a record somewhere.

    Again, it's all speculation, but it would be awesome if Naruto got that technique.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    yea ... but Naruto isn't a senju tho ... it forshadows but his dad wasn't senju minato unless he changed his name like he gave naruto his mom's last name i Find it extremely weird you find out who your parents are and Hinata tells you she loves you hahaha and both go out with the wind lol Naruto hasn't tried to figure out anything else about his history or talked with hinata since pein which i think is total bullshit
    Naruto 462 page 14 | One Manga

    Madara suggests here that Naruto is, in fact, a Senju. His family name is different, but that doesn't mean he isn't a descendant.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    I dont think any of the senju clan have the name senju but i think that Naruto and minato are senju
    Also i guess he hasnt had time to get everything together really like his parents and hinata and all that, its all been since the pain invasion and then the kage sumit and now sasuke in darkness and that, he hasnt had time but his will do after this whole revelation and when the sasuke danzo fight is over
    I find it weird tho lol like it's Sasuke Uchiha and Itachi Uchiha madara Uchiha hahaha and i always thought it was senju harisama (the frist) and it is a very very good point whoever said it where are all the senju's ?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Raised Fist View Post
    i think madara says, that naruto IS a senju or more differentiated you may say, he has the blood of a senju, which is more or less the same. here we come to the question "where are all the senjus?". uchiha and senju founded konoha. bu there seems to be no senju-clan in the way we know the uchiha-clan. i think the senju's blood was more thinned out than the uchiha's over the time and you can't talk of a clan anymore.

    moreover i think that we all are trying to hard to understand everything. some things may just don't make sense because kishi developed his story over the time and ideas came in and came out and in the end there have to be some dissonances though. like he first said that the 2-tails was a soul of a monk of the sand and later he says that it was part of the juubi... i hope i'm not wrong about that.

    i hope my thoughts come together way clearly, although i'm quite drunk^^
    LOL nothing wrong with it man i understand the basic's of what your trying to say
    What Madara said was Naruto Reminded him of the frist who was a known senju not the fact that at any given time where they related or blood of the senju speaking of which that makes tsunade a senju also lol hahaha maybe it really was Naruto's granny afterall hahahahaha
    I get what you are saying somethings will change over time as the story progresses and as he forgets ideas and gets new ones alters what is done but i mean he is ripping old myth's how lost can he be ? hahaha he is only a google away for getting back on track LOL HAHAHA so it shouldn't be like it is
    this is why i want more charactor developments ... i'm tired of fight after fight i want some history Naruto's past mainly is he or is he not senju and turned out to be a freak of nature like Nagato lol
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteknight View Post
    Naruto 462 page 14 | One Manga

    Madara suggests here that Naruto is, in fact, a Senju. His family name is different, but that doesn't mean he isn't a descendant.
    I Just think he means the will of fire lol that same will is what the frist had lol
    I could be way off when i say it too man but i think it foreshadows him being a senju however i'd love to know how and some more charactor deveolpment
    constant fighting all the time kishi has been making it like bleach to burn chapters lol
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    The whole of root is based on no emtions if im correct and he took shisui's eye and emplanted into his right eye, but how did shisui obtain MS in the first place? And if he didnt then did Danzo unlock it himself? And when kakashi was in root maybe madara showed Kakashi how to obtain MS but kakashi cant say anything because of a seal on his tounge like sai?

    Just speculating here :P
    kakashi was in anbu(they work under the hokage). root is a separate organization(they work under danzo)
     
         

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