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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    I don't remember if the juubi got Rinnegan powers but according to your formula he doesnt. And I wonder why

    If the juubi eye + body = Rinnegan

    Than shouldn't the juubi have a Rinnegan aswell, its his body and eyes and thus they are combined.
    The Rinnegan is the controlled Doujutsu of the Juubi's Yin and Yang power, it is the regulated Doūjutsu of the Juubi's power that is why its abilities are not emotion based like the Sharingan, the Rikudou made the Rinnegan as such so that he will not be corrupted by the Juubi's influence wielding it
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    The Uchiha Parent would have to acquire MS from his sibling to attain EMS since he was not born with it, the offspring however may possibly bypass this by inheriting the EMS itself since the child's conception is already imbued with the genes of an EMS parent
    I see where you're going with this.. It's plausible but not completely likely.. good theory however
    In such a case if the child inherits the EMS then it's likely he wouldn't actually have EMS, rather the Rinnegan from the start
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    The Rinnegan is the controlled Doujutsu of the Juubi's Yin and Yang power, it is the regulated Doūjutsu of the Juubi's power that is why its abilities are not emotion based like the Sharingan, the Rikudou made the Rinnegan as such so that he will not be corrupted by the Juubi's influence wielding it
    u, you did not answer my question. If rinnegan = Jubi eye+body than the Juubi should have Rinnegan.

    Obtaining the Rinnegan has nothing to do with controling emotions, the only shinobi that got Rinnegan besides the sages is Madara and god knows he didn't have his emotions under controle.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiron View Post
    I see where you're going with this.. It's plausible but not completely likely.. good theory however
    In such a case if the child inherits the EMS then it's likely he wouldn't actually have EMS, rather the Rinnegan from the start
    It might be possible the child could switch back and forth with ems and rinnegan like madara.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    I also assuming there wouldn't be a need for the wait time to activate/ unlock the Rinnegan in such a case considering the DNA was mixed entirely from birth; unlike in Madara's case where it can be speculated the DNA took a while to completely fixiate itself throughout his body, plus the likely requirement of a near death ordeal considering the sharingan requires emotional events to activate change. It would be instantaneous considering he would technically have the EMS from birth., however this could also go both ways.. because the information on how Madara unlocked the Rinnegan is unknown. Meaning the child could have EMS all the way till nearing death like Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    u, you did not answer my question. If rinnegan = Jubi eye+body than the Juubi should have Rinnegan.

    Obtaining the Rinnegan has nothing to do with controling emotions, the only shinobi that got Rinnegan besides the sages is Madara and god knows he didn't have his emotions under controle.
    What I meant was that the Rinnegan is as such because Rikūdo made it to be so, think of the Juubi as raw potable water and the Rinnegan is the distilled water
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    There is no magical forumla to get OP babies, if that was the case. Tsunade wouldn't be cut in half by a tree, Itachi and Sasuke would be flodder like Fukagu ect.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    What I meant was that the Rinnegan is as such because Rikūdo made it to be so, think of the Juubi as raw potable water and the Rinnegan is the distilled water
    It theory is iffy to me. Like were did the sage get an EMS eye?!
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    There is no magical forumla to get OP babies, if that was the case. Tsunade wouldn't be cut in half by a tree, Itachi and Sasuke would be flodder like Fukagu ect.
    In japanese sayings Tobi means kite.. and Sasuke means hawk..

    Theres a saying that goes A Hawk Born from a kite
    meaning "An exceptional child can be born of ordinary parents"

    However in this situation yes DNA can result in Kekkei Genkai and other skills.. aka OP children

    So yes.. there could be "per-say" a magical formula of DNA connections..

    That's like saying the odds of two Uchiha with sharingan having a baby, the baby is likely to have sharingan, it's simple genetics
     
         
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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    It theory is iffy to me. Like were did the sage get an EMS eye?!
    He need not acquire it to obtain the Rinnegan since being the Juubi's Jinchuuriki he already possesses the totality of the Juubi which is Yin and Yang so he needed only to regulate it to attain the Rinnegan, the EMS and Mokuton that Madara used to reverse engineer the Rinnegan is merely using the residual essence of the Juubi's Yin present in his EMS and the residual Yang present in Hashi's Mokuton and that is why it took him a lifetime to awaken it
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiron View Post
    In japanese sayings Tobi means kite.. and Sasuke means hawk..

    Theres a saying that goes A Hawk Born from a kite
    meaning "An exceptional child can be born of ordinary parents"

    However in this situation yes DNA can result in Kekkei Genkai and other skills.. aka OP children

    So yes..
    I understand what you are trying to say but this assumption is not always correct. Because if it was, Tsunade whouldnt be cut in half by a tree, she would have the same powers as Hashirama. And the possibility of both Fugaku sons being gifted as they are would be very little to non.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    I understand what you are trying to say but this assumption is not always correct. Because if it was, Tsunade whouldnt be cut in half by a tree, she would have the same powers as Hashirama. And the possibility of both Fugaku sons being gifted as they are would be very little to non.
    Only Kishimoto knows! However SirDerpObito has very good theories which are very likely to happen.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    I understand what you are trying to say but this assumption is not always correct. Because if it was, Tsunade whouldnt be cut in half by a tree, she would have the same powers as Hashirama. And the possibility of both Fugaku sons being gifted as they are would be very little to non.
    Genetics is definitely luck.. and a multitude of possiblities.. however by the parents having things in common and well as strong traits it's very likely for the child to gain these traits.

    I already explained the Fugaku having exceptional children even though he was somewhat fodder.

    However Tsunade having Mokuton is a very low possiblity in genetics.. considering she is a 3rd Generation Senju away from Hashirama.. not even Hashirama's brother obtained Mokuton; Meaning Hashirama and Tobirama gaining Mokuton was nearly 50% and Tobirama didn't get it... the percentage only decreased from there, considering Hashirama married an Uzumaki who definitely didn't have Wood style.. and so forth.. Tsunade having Mokuton is less than 20% IMO
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    He need not acquire it to obtain the Rinnegan since being the Juubi's Jinchuuriki he already possesses the totality of the Juubi which is Yin and Yang so he needed only to regulate it to attain the Rinnegan, the EMS and Mokuton that Madara used to reverse engineer the Rinnegan is merely using the residual essence of the Juubi's Yin present in his EMS and the residual Yang present in Hashi's Mokuton and that is why it took him a lifetime to awaken it
    But the juubi only has the Sharingan, not MS or EMS. If base sharingan, yin + yang was enough that Madara should have scratched Hashirama's skin as a kid
    All jokes aside this is a iffy theory. It makes no sense that the Juubi has all it needs to obtain the rinnegan but somehow couldn't use it. Especially since this beast is the god of the NV.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftNinja View Post
    Only Kishimoto knows! However SirDerpObito has very good theories which are very likely to happen.
    The thing is, I think that SirDerpObito is overthinking this rinnegan/juubi stuff. It doesn't look like Kishi is doing alot of thinking and planning for this manga. And this theory of him is to far stretched in my opion.
    I do believe that the sage is a Uzumaki however, I think that the sage got the rinnegan from the start.
     
         

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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    But the juubi only has the Sharingan, not MS or EMS. If base sharingan, yin + yang was enough that Madara should have scratched Hashirama's skin as a kid
    All jokes aside this is a iffy theory. It makes no sense that the Juubi has all it needs to obtain the rinnegan but somehow couldn't use it. Especially since this beast is the god of the NV.
    The Juubi has the Sharrinegan, not base Sharingan of the Uchihas, the regulated Doujutsu is the Rinnegan


    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted007 View Post
    The thing is, I think that SirDerpObito is overthinking this rinnegan/juubi stuff. It doesn't look like Kishi is doing alot of thinking and planning for this manga. And this theory of him is to far stretched in my opion.
    I do believe that the sage is a Uzumaki however, I think that the sage got the rinnegan from the start.
    Well, the Rinnegan literally translates into the Eye of Samsara, the Eye of Suffering, and Rikūdo endured greatly to fight and seal the Jūbi inside himself, If he was born with the Rinnegan then ut would be called the Eye of the Boddhisattva aka the eye of the Sennin, if he acquired it through meditation and knowledge then it would be called the Eye of Nirvana or the Eye of Enlightenment
     
         
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    Re: Senju + Uchiha child = next SO6P?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    The Juubi has the Sharrinegan, not base Sharingan of the Uchihas, the regulated Doujutsu is the Rinnegan
    Time will tell my friend
     
         

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