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    Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    I don't know where everyone is coming up with this idea that Enton flames and Amaterasu flames are different. The flames of both techniques are the same; it's just how they manifest that's different.

    For example, Amaterasu is like Kakashi's kamui. It's a sniping technique. You focus on a distant object, and the black flames appear onto it.

    Enton however, forms in a relatively close range and is it is NOT required for Amaterasu to be used before hand. Enton is of its own product.

    The product, however, is the same; black flames that burn hotter than any flame for days, that cannot be extinguished. Enton and Amaterasu might as well be the same.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Yeah you're right.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Nagato Shinra Tensei'd dem *****es though.

    But yeah I agree.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    well yes they are the same but one is for anywhere and one is for right infront or on you
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Well you know how people get when it's a different name.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    You don't say
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by sasukexx13 View Post
    You don't say
    Lmfao, its been a while since i saw this kind of threads for severaly months.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    no shit its the same
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    It is the same, but it's still different. Enton is the kekkei genkai Sasuke have, and Amaterasu is the technique he use to get the flame out of his eyes.

    Fireballs are fireballs, they still have different name. You can't say that Enton sword is Amaterasu sword for example.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Enton is an ability to manipulate the flames further. Since it's not a default ability with Amaterasu, it's a separate power and thus, not the same as Amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Enton is an ability to manipulate the flames further. Since it's not a default ability with Amaterasu, it's a separate power and thus, not the same as Amaterasu.
    Thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    No doubt, people on here are crazy haha
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik View Post
    It is the same, but it's still different. Enton is the kekkei genkai Sasuke have, and Amaterasu is the technique he use to get the flame out of his eyes.

    Fireballs are fireballs, they still have different name. You can't say that Enton sword is Amaterasu sword for example.
    How is Enton a KKG?
    It's an eye tech and Katon to the highest degree
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by HadouKage View Post
    How is Enton a KKG?
    It's an eye tech and Katon to the highest degree
    Because it's translation is Blaze Release. All Advanced Nature Kekkei Genkai have the name "Release", so we know it's a Kekkei Genkai. Sasuke just does it with his eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by HadouKage View Post
    How is Enton a KKG?
    It's an eye tech and Katon to the highest degree
    I quote

    Blaze release (Enton) is an advanced chakra nature kekkei genkai of the Uchiha clan, that lets them produce black flames.
    Even if Itachi can use Amaterasu, doesn't that mean he can use Enton. Only Sasuke can do it, and this is example of Sasuke Enton: Yasaka no Magatama.

     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik View Post
    It is the same, but it's still different. Enton is the kekkei genkai Sasuke have, and Amaterasu is the technique he use to get the flame out of his eyes.

    Fireballs are fireballs, they still have different name. You can't say that Enton sword is Amaterasu sword for example.
    Sorry, but you're wrong.

    So everytime Sasuke uses Enton he used Amaterasu right before? That makes no sense. Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword when he used enton to cover it in flames.

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Enton is an ability to manipulate the flames further. Since it's not a default ability with Amaterasu, it's a separate power and thus, not the same as Amaterasu.
    Same as above.

    Also, you never came back to my Hidan thread after I provided you with scans. Hm.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik View Post
    I quote



    Even if Itachi can use Amaterasu, doesn't that mean he can use Enton. Only Sasuke can do it, and this is example of Sasuke Enton: Yasaka no Magatama.

    Then this is a paradox then. In the DB of Ama it states that it is "the highest degree of Katon"
    Enton is nothing but the manipulation of Ama
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Sorry, but you're wrong.

    So everytime Sasuke uses Enton he used Amaterasu right before? That makes no sense. Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword when he used enton to cover it in flames.
    /facepalm

    When he use Amaterasu, it comes out if his eyes. Here is an example of Sasuke Amaterasu;



    Here's a example of Sasuke using Enton;



    Enton manipulates the shape of the black flames. And no, i'm not wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by HadouKage View Post
    Then this is a paradox then. In the DB of Ama it states that it is "the highest degree of Katon"
    Enton is nothing but the manipulation of Ama
    Eh? Enton means Blaze release and it's a kekkei genkai as I stated. Amaterasu is the eye techique Sasuke and Itachi can do because of their Mangekyo.

    Enton is a special kekkei genkai only Sasuke can do, and it let him produce black flames.
     
         
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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Sorry, but you're wrong.

    So everytime Sasuke uses Enton he used Amaterasu right before? That makes no sense. Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword when he used enton to cover it in flames.



    Same as above.

    Also, you never came back to my Hidan thread after I provided you with scans. Hm.
    I don't know how to explain this any simpler. Amaterasu is one power. Enton is another used to take Amaterasu one step higher. Yes, whenever Sasuke uses Enton, he uses Ama first. He uses them in conjunction with each other.

    And I did reply to your Hidan scan.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik View Post
    /facepalm

    When he use Amaterasu, it comes out if his eyes. Here is an example of Sasuke Amaterasu;



    Here's a example of Sasuke using Enton;



    Enton manipulates the shape of the black flames. And no, i'm not wrong.
    Are you not following what I'm saying?

    Flames appeared on Sasuke's sword.

    Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword.

    Hence, we can gather they formed directly on the sword WITHOUT Amaterasu, since Amaterasu requires you to look at the target.

    He used Enton, which does not require Amaterasu
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Are you not following what I'm saying?

    Flames appeared on Sasuke's sword.

    Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword.

    Hence, we can gather they formed directly on the sword WITHOUT Amaterasu, since Amaterasu requires you to look at the target.

    He used Enton, which does not require Amaterasu
    I give up. Believe whatever you want.

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    I don't know how to explain this any simpler. Amaterasu is one power. Enton is another used to take Amaterasu one step higher. Yes, whenever Sasuke uses Enton, he uses Ama first. He uses them in conjunction with each other.

    And I did reply to your Hidan scan.
    How can that be possible, when flames appeared on Sasuke's sword without eye contact? Amaterasu clearly wasn't used, otherwise it would have appeared where Sasuke was looking.

    And no, you did not. I just checked.


    Quote Originally Posted by Henrik View Post
    I give up. Believe whatever you want.

    /i'm out
    Ah, the classic "I have no argument, so I'll just say I'm right and leave" tactic. Priceless.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Are you not following what I'm saying?

    Flames appeared on Sasuke's sword.

    Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword.

    Hence, we can gather they formed directly on the sword WITHOUT Amaterasu, since Amaterasu requires you to look at the target.

    He used Enton, which does not require Amaterasu
    Then how are they the same thing?
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    How can that be possible, when flames appeared on Sasuke's sword without eye contact? Amaterasu clearly wasn't used, otherwise it would have appeared where Sasuke was looking.

    And no, you did not. I just checked.
    When did Sasuke use Amaterasu on his sword?

    And yeah, I didn't see the second Hidan scan you posted.
     
         

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    Re: Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Then how are they the same thing?
    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    When did Sasuke use Amaterasu on his sword?

    And yeah, I didn't see the second Hidan scan you posted.
    Apologies, it wasn't on his sword. I misremembered. But regardless, the arc that swing took is far out of Sasuke's vision.




    What I'm suggesting is that the flames are the same, whether they be Enton or Amaterasu. It's just how they manifest that's different.
     
         

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