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    Re: Naruto Manga 480 Discussion and 481 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    although Shisui's eyes were normal sharingan at the Kage summit that guy with the Byakugan said Shisui had the power to manipulate others mind without letting them know about it. So in Shisui's case though he has the normal Sharingan but he had a unique power and also his chakra i guess is sort of special thats why Danzou also took his arm. So what i'm saying is Danzou could have used Shisui's eye for Izanagi but the most like scenario is either he is really dead or he escaped somehow controlling Sasuke's mind with Shisui's eye.
    Think about it a little.. If he used Shisui's eye for Izanagi. Then the eye closes. He can't use it for Shisui's technique. Once or another,don't you think??
    In the manga he states that he was planning to use it in Madara not in Sasuke..
    If he had used Shisui's abilitie do you really think Sasuke would have stab him with Chidori anyway??
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Well it does appear the only way to get sasuke out of the darkness is by itachi telling the whole truth behind that night that he placed a genjutsu trigger into Naruto ...
    I agree that there will be a time skip we have to see them grow up and be adults i think this is what kishi is showing last time when Naru passed out that he's ideals are changing and matureing as he questions himself
    My boy will be fine Naru will not kill sasuke and there is no way IMO to touch Naru as he has so many fail safes protecting him lol he will go train again
    prolly find KB as stated b4 and learn to talk to the Fox and the toad seal to help control the fox's chakra's so we know complete control of the Fox will come and he will then infuse a FRS with sage+fox+wind chakra to develope a move that sassuno will fall too lol but yea i love both char's Naru and Sas but i will say as it stands Naru would get pwnd by Sas until he trains
    The uchiha can control kyubii remeber when they met after that three year thing the fox begged sasuke to not kill Naruto and he just pinched his nose and the chakra broke apart Madara control'd kyubii 16 years ago too so the fox is useless against Sasuke unless Naruto is in control of it lol
    very much true but i wonder if Naruto somehow learns the technique of his father the body flicker technique and the space time tech and then just like the Rasengan he will improve the space time tech because Kakashi said that Madara's space time tech is much more improved than the Fourth's though it is because Madara has the MS but it will be interesting if Naruto learns those tech plus controlling the fox.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    Think about it a little.. If he used Shisui's eye for Izanagi. Then the eye closes. He can't use it for Shisui's technique. Once or another,don't you think??
    In the manga he states that he was planning to use it in Madara not in Sasuke..
    If he had used Shisui's abilitie do you really think Sasuke would have stab him with Chidori anyway??
    but in order to survive he COULD have used Shisui's eye for Izanagi though it means he will not be able to use it anymore but it will at least save his life. If Danzou survives that is, but from the looks of things he is a goner.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 480 Discussion and 481 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    Kishi said in his interview that Naruto will again start training.
    Where does everyone find these interviews ... and how can they be trusted ?
    It seems he is a bad author writing a book and giving away the ending LOL
    I have heard so many "interviews" and nothing has happend ... it's common knowledge Naruto will train haha kishi hasn't given any more insight it's like him saying i'm going to eat today haha but i'd like to read the interviews please sir
    Thank you
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Well it does appear the only way to get sasuke out of the darkness is by itachi telling the whole truth behind that night
    This i agree to some extend..
    Sasuke will never hear what Naruto has to say.. Only his brother can let him out of the "Avenger" path.
    But Itachi also said "I hope you never have to use it". This tell me it's something that most likely kills Sasuke..

    To the rest of the post.. Hell,if brothers treat each other that way. Then i don't wanna know what those people will do to people who are not related..
    Sasuke has bringing nothing but pain to Naruto's life. It's absurd from Kishi's part that he's still trapped in this plot-hole..

    I don't agree that Naruto will ever control the FOX. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

    1 - He would be invencible.
    2 - The Fox is way to evil for them to get along. The Fox only saves Naruto on self-Interest..
    3 - Series will lose much of the excitement.. It's always exciting in a Naruto fight against a stronger opponent then him to see if he will be enraged enough to free a bunch of tails and go berserk..
    4 - People keep mentioning KillerBee but it seems the fact that he can control it. It's only pure team work and because Hachibi allows it too.
    They have similar personalities and go along well. That doesn't seems something Kirabi learned himself..

    Naruto training will be something along the line of Jiraiya's scrool hidden technique left by Minato or learning the element of water..

    Think about it for a second:

    Sasuke has Lightning and Fire..
    Naruto has Wind.. Let's suppose he learns Water element techniques..

    Wind counters Lightning.. but Fire counters Wind.. Lightning counters Water but water counters fire..

    They would be in a leveled in Elements field..

    I do agree Sasuke is way too strong for Naruto now..


    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    but in order to survive he COULD have used Shisui's eye for Izanagi though it means he will not be able to use it anymore but it will at least save his life. If Danzou survives that is, but from the looks of things he is a goner.
    But the body will appear closer to the "Fake" one..
    Then what you have??

    A 71 old man,blind,without an arm and without chakra..

    Why do you think Sasuke activated Amaterasu before hitting Chidori??
    If Danzo uses Izanagi. Where ever the body re-appears will just be burned to death..


    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    After Itachi killed Shisui he got the MS. So before that he didn't had the MS. The thing that's been bugging me is that did Itachi alone killed Shisui? I mean Itachi was a exceptional ninja but Shisui was also a very powerful ninja who i guess knew of Itahci's powers as he was like a elder brother to Itachi. Shisui was also observing Itachi after joining the ANBU so maybe Danzou and Itachi both killed Shisui. I know this isn't a very important topic but what i want to say is it is very unlike for Itachi who didn't had the MS that time defeating someone feared as "Shisui the Mirage".
    As seen in the Manga.. Itachi was way too strong even at 13 for any Uchiha..
    The guy alone killed almost all the Uchihas.. Shisui was obviously not hard-work for him..
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    very much true but i wonder if Naruto somehow learns the technique of his father the body flicker technique and the space time tech and then just like the Rasengan he will improve the space time tech because Kakashi said that Madara's space time tech is much more improved than the Fourth's though it is because Madara has the MS but it will be interesting if Naruto learns those tech plus controlling the fox.
    It has been foreshadowed ( i think) in that Kakashi Gaiden as when Kakashi became a Jounin level nin Minato gave him that special knife as his present and from what i understand the flying thunder god was based upon seals and the 4th's expertise of them so i think he may have shown/tought Kakashi something to do with it ...
    plus the 4th had a plan for the Fox maybe minato lacked something and the FTG tech was another powerful but incomplete tech it is hard to say exactly.
    But from wat i saw those special katana's he gave to Kakashi where what he used and just threw them all over the battlefeild whereever a knife was he could teleport to in like spilt seconds so you just see the yellow of his hair.
    but for now we can only dream i want to know what the Fox has to do with taking down madara and all this toad seal and the toad key j-man left have to do with it lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    This i agree to some extend..
    Sasuke will never hear what Naruto has to say.. Only his brother can let him out of the "Avenger" path.
    But Itachi also said "I hope you never have to use it". This tell me it's something that most likely kills Sasuke..

    To the rest of the post.. Hell,if brothers treat each other that way. Then i don't wanna know what those people will do to people who are not related..
    Sasuke has bringing nothing but pain to Naruto's life. It's absurd from Kishi's part that he's still trapped in this plot-hole..

    I don't agree that Naruto will ever control the FOX. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

    1 - He would be invencible.
    2 - The Fox is way to evil for them to get along. The Fox only saves Naruto on self-Interest..
    3 - Series will lose much of the excitement.. It's always exciting in a Naruto fight against a stronger opponent then him to see if he will be enraged enough to free a bunch of tails and go berserk..
    4 - People keep mentioning KillerBee but it seems the fact that he can control it. It's only pure team work and because Hachibi allows it too.
    They have similar personalities and go along well. That doesn't seems something Kirabi learned himself..

    Naruto training will be something along the line of Jiraiya's scrool hidden technique left by Minato or learning the element of water..

    Think about it for a second:

    Sasuke has Lightning and Fire..
    Naruto has Wind.. Let's suppose he learns Water element techniques..

    Wind counters Lightning.. but Fire counters Wind.. Lightning counters Water but water counters fire..

    They would be in a leveled in Elements field..

    I do agree Sasuke is way too strong for Naruto now..
    Not really Itachi wanted the TRUTH to die with him haha so leaking the truth would be just as bad as killing sasuke and to me it doesn't make sence to have a jutsu to kill Sasuke since he only gave it to Naruto when he said he won't kill sasuke it was itachi's plan everything he did for Sasuke so to me you throw your entire life's work away and kill the one you wanted to save most? everything was in vain you know what i mean lol he lied to sas to protect him from the truth so what is the truth might be bigger then a coupe ... and by the look of all the stolen sharingan's running around i'm interested in this alot ...
    I agree with you water needs to be his secondary element to both compliment and disable Sas's attacks so you can carry the series beyond a Naru + Sas showdown and have team 7 reunited against the final villians to restore peace
    I also agree with the assesment about the control of the Fox but i find it weird to give so many seals and key's and have minato seal something that cannot be used so i know he will be invinceable and it does suck balls but he is the main charactor will have to watch for the plot but yeah i'd much prefere a FTG tech and have him do things with the Fox as back up it is kinda his way to use his own power anyways
    Just a thought tho didn't the 4th seal away 1/2 the Fox into Naru and 1/2 somewhere else ... and wheren't there ying and yang sides so perhapes maybe Naru has the evil half of the Fox... i'm not sure if you know about it let me know plz
     
         
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    Awesome chapter. Best one in a long while.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Not really Itachi wanted the TRUTH to die with him haha so leaking the truth would be just as bad as killing sasuke and to me it doesn't make sence to have a jutsu to kill Sasuke since he only gave it to Naruto when he said he won't kill sasuke it was itachi's plan everything he did for Sasuke so to me you throw your entire life's work away and kill the one you wanted to save most? everything was in vain you know what i mean lol he lied to sas to protect him from the truth so what is the truth might be bigger then a coupe ... and by the look of all the stolen sharingan's running around i'm interested in this alot ...
    I agree with you water needs to be his secondary element to both compliment and disable Sas's attacks so you can carry the series beyond a Naru + Sas showdown and have team 7 reunited against the final villians to restore peace
    I also agree with the assesment about the control of the Fox but i find it weird to give so many seals and key's and have minato seal something that cannot be used so i know he will be invinceable and it does suck balls but he is the main charactor will have to watch for the plot but yeah i'd much prefere a FTG tech and have him do things with the Fox as back up it is kinda his way to use his own power anyways
    Just a thought tho didn't the 4th seal away 1/2 the Fox into Naru and 1/2 somewhere else ... and wheren't there ying and yang sides so perhapes maybe Naru has the evil half of the Fox... i'm not sure if you know about it let me know plz
    Kishi probably made another plot-hole with the Ying-Yang thing..
    Supposely Minato only sealed the Ying type of Chakra but it's never mentioned where is the Yang Chakra.

    Did he sealed together with the technique of Sealing and died together with Minato?? (I don't know and i don't care)
    Also the Fox seems to be at full power and never hinted anything about his power being only at Half.. (I guess it was just another Kishi screws)

    All the sealing crap and fail-safes and whatever was because the Seal becomes weak after years..

    Itachi was a genius.. He didn't want to Sasuke to know the truth but the predicted things much before hand..

    Think about it:

    Why was Itachi talking to Naruto in the first place??
    To put on Naruto a fail-safe if his previously Fail-Safe Amaterasu trap wouldn't work and Madara wouldn't die with it..

    This suggests that Itachi predicted that Madara could survive and knowing his brother so well.. He predicted that Sasuke once knowing the truth would seek revenge again..

    Yet the ultimate fail-safe something that probably would kill Sasuke. That's why he said: "I hope you never have to use it".. This suggests something HUGE..
     
         

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    I would like to see to Naruto that he can have another awesome technique.
     
         

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    Sasuke is bad-ass. This chapter was good.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7thElement View Post
    Sasuke is bad-ass. This chapter was good.
    I hope he turns 100% into darkness finally.. I loved the expression of Madara in the end. He was like "NICEEEEEEEE!!!"
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    Kishi probably made another plot-hole with the Ying-Yang thing..
    Supposely Minato only sealed the Ying type of Chakra but it's never mentioned where is the Yang Chakra.

    Did he sealed together with the technique of Sealing and died together with Minato?? (I don't know and i don't care)
    Also the Fox seems to be at full power and never hinted anything about his power being only at Half.. (I guess it was just another Kishi screws)

    All the sealing crap and fail-safes and whatever was because the Seal becomes weak after years..

    Itachi was a genius.. He didn't want to Sasuke to know the truth but the predicted things much before hand..

    Think about it:

    Why was Itachi talking to Naruto in the first place??
    To put on Naruto a fail-safe if his previously Fail-Safe Amaterasu trap wouldn't work and Madara wouldn't die with it..

    This suggests that Itachi predicted that Madara could survive and knowing his brother so well.. He predicted that Sasuke once knowing the truth would seek revenge again..

    Yet the ultimate fail-safe something that probably would kill Sasuke. That's why he said: "I hope you never have to use it".. This suggests something HUGE..
    I don't know ... lol
    maybe not kill him maybe make his little brother go blind and lose the power of his sharingan eyes as without it Sasuke would be useless but still be alive and noone knew the secrets and power's of the sharingan like itachi did i still can't picture Itachi giving a death blow to his little brother like all jutsu's they have a weakness and the EMS prolly was predicted by Itachi and he knew Madara's history and how to beat the EMS so this could be a more realistic outcome now i think about it
    If sasuke becomes so out of control and beats Naruto to a near death state which is pretty easy for him at the moment Itachi's gift would kick in and perminately Blind his little brother taking away his most powerful tools the sharingan eyes knowing Naruto will not kill sasuke once he is serverly crippled
    that will prolly be how it goes
    he wouldn't be the Hero he wanted sasuke to be but at least the uchiha name would live on i think that was Itachi's ultimate goal was to leave sasuke to rebuild the Uchiha name ...
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 480 Discussion and 481 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    Kishi probably made another plot-hole with the Ying-Yang thing..
    Supposely Minato only sealed the Ying type of Chakra but it's never mentioned where is the Yang Chakra.

    Did he sealed together with the technique of Sealing and died together with Minato?? (I don't know and i don't care)
    Also the Fox seems to be at full power and never hinted anything about his power being only at Half.. (I guess it was just another Kishi screws)

    All the sealing crap and fail-safes and whatever was because the Seal becomes weak after years..

    Itachi was a genius.. He didn't want to Sasuke to know the truth but the predicted things much before hand..

    Think about it:

    Why was Itachi talking to Naruto in the first place??
    To put on Naruto a fail-safe if his previously Fail-Safe Amaterasu trap wouldn't work and Madara wouldn't die with it..

    This suggests that Itachi predicted that Madara could survive and knowing his brother so well.. He predicted that Sasuke once knowing the truth would seek revenge again..

    Yet the ultimate fail-safe something that probably would kill Sasuke. That's why he said: "I hope you never have to use it".. This suggests something HUGE..
    i was also thinking about this why did Itachi said "i hope u don't have to use it" so that means either it is a technique to kill Sasuke or a technique which will give Naruto the upper hand against Sasuke. But i still can't figure out what is "THAT" gift Itachi gave.
     
         

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    My theory is right about sasuke altering Danzo's perception of time...haha...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    I'm not really sure what you're trying to say in the rest of the post but I'll try to answer the two questions to the best of my knowledge:

    1) Danzo couldn't use Shisui's Sharingan because he used it at the Kage Summit on the Samurai leader and he stated he could only use it a couple times a day. So he was waiting for it to "re-charge".

    2) I think Madara was talking about Danzo. Danzo is the leader of the Root organization of Konoha. He was saying Danzo should have stayed underground instead of coming out so forcefully because it led to his downfall. So it was a jest at Danzo's expense.
    Danzo used Shisui's eyes to control Mizukage not the samurai

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    but in order to survive he COULD have used Shisui's eye for Izanagi though it means he will not be able to use it anymore but it will at least save his life. If Danzou survives that is, but from the looks of things he is a goner.
    Danzo is as good as dead without shisui's eyes...so he did not use it for izanagi
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by bam06005 View Post
    Oh I see on that page now...you are right it is Madara talking about Shisui's eye...but that still doesn't answer two questions:

    1. Why "couldn't" Danzo use Shisui's eye?
    2. What does Madara mean about the "roots" hidden in the ground? Does that mean the roots of the eye so the eye didn't like die or something? But that would imply that Shisui's eye's roots were in that tree that disconnected from Danzo's left arm...but Shisui's eye is Danzo's right eye...

    ROOT ninjas? That one doesn't seem right either.

    wait wait wait!!! I just re-checked and the tree doesn't disconnect until AFTER Madara is talking about the eye...so the whole "roots" things is even more ambiguous now!

    Wow that was confusing to type...

    Another thing about this Shisui eye...Danzou takes off the bandages and then Madara says "his right eye is working again"...again since when? The only thing I can think of is again since he killed those assassin shinobi after the whole Kage Summit arc. His implanted sharingan is damaged after all.

    And yes, I am yet another fan confused at why Amaterasu was activated in Sasuke's left eye when he "killed" Danzo...only looks like a chidori sword to me.
    All your questions confuse me as well:confused:

    I think the roots might be the roots of Mokton (and not the Anbu roots). Danzo might be using it in combination with izangi

    Furthermore i dont think Karin is dead, but Danzo dying without a dying speech would also be lame

    And Amaterasu eye also makes no sense!!!
     
         

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    if karin dies sasuke is now dead 2 me i never liked him but he would be even more dead 2 me
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy69 View Post
    if karin dies sasuke is now dead 2 me i never liked him but he would be even more dead 2 me
    Karin will not die she is too important to sas's team for him to just kill her off
    He's becomeing evil not stupid haha
    he told her not to move to avoid hitting her vitals but destroying Danzo's she's wounded but not dead man
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by baah View Post
    Danzo is as good as dead without shisui's eyes...so he did not use it for izanagi
    I think That Saskue is using His own MG Tech... Like he pulled off Ameterasu flames.... during eight tails fight..... So he is just trying to Use hiss tech may be its same as dimensional Warp where he can make a part of body to go in Diffeent Dimension for a small period of time so fraction tht normal eyes Observer the user is still and during this time lapse he kills Danzou with Chidori.............

    Wat Say guys...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 480 Discussion and 481 Predictions

    Ok, so now we all know who is tobi. He is hosting the (spirit?) of Madara, but
    he is not Madara. (:
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genox View Post
    Ok, so now we all know who is tobi. He is hosting the (spirit?) of Madara, but
    he is not Madara. (:
    He's obito with half of Shisui. Didn't you knew??
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 480 Discussion and 481 Predictions

    maybe sasuke used amaterasu for burning karins wound or so. either way i dont think he has sacrificed her. She's too usefull, sasuke is evil, but not dumb
     
         

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