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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    Itachi and kisame are dead lol, why does everyone keep doubting this lol
    amm what? some times u read with ur but or what? :D re-read my quote, than my answer, maybe u get it, couse ur quote doesnt make any sence

    hint: I KNOW THEY ARE DEAD jeez
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Mangekyo View Post
    amm what? some times u read with ur but or what? :D re-read my quote, than my answer, maybe u get it, couse ur quote doesnt make any sence

    hint: I KNOW THEY ARE DEAD jeez
    lol my bad was tired n wasnt reading properly :D
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    It's regardless what reasons may sasuke have, killing is still against the 10 commandments and is immoral. on my own context, vengeance makes a person evil.
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    lol my bad was tired n wasnt reading properly :D
    np :D happends to me all the time
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Mangekyo View Post
    np :D happends to me all the time
    Its a ***** aint it :D

    Sasuke is evil!
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Its all illusion to keep ppl under conrol.

    Evil is just a word, an idea, a conception established by the society that one has born and grow up through that culture, hence an act in certain society can be defined as EVIL, because you are told that act is EVIL, because you have grow up under influence of that culture as you have been told what is Right and Wrong in your entire life and you don't even question or think about it, you just believe, that is your reality, but in another culture from a different society, an act that you usual would say its EVIL or whatever, it could mean its GOOD. A terrorist in his reality is fighting for freedom, yet maybe in your reality you may see that as an evil act.

    Sasuke is not evil, that is one way to see it, Sasuke is evil, well that is another way to see it, all that is relative to each one's reality.
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Alls he does is try to kill people in his life, whats good about that? lol
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Have you had your family murdered?

    Yours is the useless post.

    Stop acting like some kind of higher person because you follow some cliche comic book rules.

    Again i repeat, 99.999% (more likely 100%) of the people here have perfectly simple and easy lives that dont have family members being killed in etc, so its very easy to type behind a computer screen how you wouldnt want revenge.

    Its called the french law of "crime of passion"

    People who under certain stressful conditions simply lose it and go mental.

    Its easy to think rationally when youre nice and warm typing.

    Living the real thing is completely different, stop saying sasukes evil because he wants revenge, he is not evil, he is correct, danzou performed genocide to the uchiha people, and sasuke killing him is evil?

    what next?

    Hitlers killer was evil too?

    ****ing morons
    First of all, yes it is easy for me to type. Because I was an orphan since I was 9.
    Second of all, thinking rationally is something imperiously necessary in this type of situation. I been through alot of stuff in my life, contrary of what anyone thinks, because I don't pose, and I can express my feelings and opinion freely. If you get buttraped in jail for revenge, you will start regreting it.
    And third, Hitler killed himself.

    I'm not stupid, nor a higher person, but I am perfectly rational.

    Sorry for off-topic guys.
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    Alls he does is try to kill people in his life, whats good about that? lol
    why kakashi is killing ppl you think he is evil?
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Sasuke is evil no doubt.
    Revenge does nothing but cause more sorrow, which causes more violence, which results in more death, and so on (read Pein arc lol).
    Sasuke has made it his life to get revenge. Not only that, but he hurts innocents to get it now, a clear change from earlier. A.K.A Karin whom he stabbed. (There was the Samurai also but anyway.)
    He's working for the bad guys, he hurts innocents, and he only cares about his own selfish goals. Therefore he is EVIL.

    why kakashi is killing ppl you think he is evil?
    Not even similar.
    1- Have you ever seen Kakashi hurt a civilian, and innocent, or his own teammate? No.
    2-He kills to protect those he cares about, and only when it is necessary.
    There is no comparison really.
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by sandshark View Post
    Sasuke is evil no doubt.
    Revenge does nothing but cause more sorrow, which causes more violence, which results in more death, and so on (read Pein arc lol).
    Sasuke has made it his life to get revenge. Not only that, but he hurts innocents to get it now, a clear change from earlier. A.K.A Karin whom he stabbed. (There was the Samurai also but anyway.)
    He's working for the bad guys, he hurts innocents, and he only cares about his own selfish goals. Therefore he is EVIL.



    Not even similar.
    1- Have you ever seen Kakashi hurt a civilian, and innocent, or his own teammate? No.
    2-He kills to protect those he cares about, and only when it is necessary.
    There is no comparison really.
    then how you define killing then? can killing be defined as good or evil thing? l, thats why i want to say you cant say that justice is only will of fire and say sasukes way is evil when both kill for some reason ... dont be hypocrite....
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by squiremarcus View Post
    If you don't define that is evil, then how do you define it? Personally I find it easier to define the opposite of evil rather than evil, and all other actions can be considered evil. I consider a non-evil person as not one who doesn't feel the want for revenge, but rather would feel those emotions and not act on them in such an evil way.
    If you do not feel the want for revenge your a heartless EVIL person. if my family died/masacared i would want revenge it is how you deal with that revenge that makes you either a good or bad person.

    So things i learned
    -chopsy16 is right
    -sasuke is evil
    i) and emo
    -i hate fanboys
    -means dosent justify end
    -hate fanboys

    Who are we to play god deciding who lives and who dies? We are not, anyone who trys to play that role is evil. Killing is not a job for man but for God.
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    he could be evil, but at the same time he aint. He is just manipulated by Madara. If he hadnt met Madara after Itachis death, he would probably find an another person and blame him for his life...
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Yeah Sasuke has a lot of hatred right now. He also has all this power going to his head. But I don't think he is truly evil. I also don't think Karin is dead. He probable missed her vital organs while piercing through Danzos heart. As he told her not to move preventing the beam hitting her in a vital spot. In the end Sasuke and Naruto will both be alive. Or else a lot of fans would be very pissed.

    P.S Is anyone getting sick of all these "Fake Deaths" and Just standing in one spot throwing powerful attacks at each other. What ever happen to the Taijutsu in fights. Also a Bubble Jutsu.......really. GaY!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by UnknowNinjaName View Post
    then how you define killing then? can killing be defined as good or evil thing? l, thats why i want to say you cant say that justice is only will of fire and say sasukes way is evil when both kill for some reason ... dont be hypocrite....

    I do agree that this is the question we are arguing about. Is there an ultimate evil? I personally think it is very hard to claim an absolute evil exists.


    In Sasuke's defense, I will say that he is still somewhat young, and he primarily uses defensive jutsu. Also, we do not know what Sasuke really knows: Maybe he knew that absorbing Orochimaru would not kill him. Maybe he knew that he was crushing a clone of Danzo... We simply don't know.

    What we do know, however, is that he says he is being motivated by revenge when he tried to kill Itachi. While this may be the only thing that makes sense in his life, we see that Sasuke will make people suffer who did not have anything to do with the Uchiha Massacre, just to try and avenge it.


    Karin, Orochimaru, the Samurai, Killer Bee. None of those people, as far as Sasuke knows, had anything to do with the killing his clan. As a result, he is not true even to his stated goal of just avenging the clan. This is what is wrong with his revenge.
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by UnknowNinjaName View Post
    okay lets talk about this how you see revenge? what is revenge for you?

    i want to say that sasuke is not evil cuz he wants just revenge , with revenge you are not becoming evil person cuz he actually just killing evil... thats what i want to say... inside sasuke soul there is empty and peaceful place and that place will not hurt anyone, which means dont touch him he will not touch you thats how i see Sasuke...

    better example: his parents were killed because of itachi , madara, danzo and elders now , he wants revenge on them and he is not evil person cuz of revenge cuz he actually killing evil persons not good once... only when they force them on his way to fight then he will kill you of course cuz he just want revenge ...


    how do you see sasuke and his revenge?
    Sasuke was not originally evil, he had evil intentions, and was and is willing to do anything to make his plans work, that is what makes him evil
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    To me sasuke is not evil he is just tooo blind and can easily be mislead b anyone, it is just like itachi said he is a blank sheet which can easily be colored by anyone. And if you look at it he was always been guided by wrong type of people first it was oro now it is Madman(madara).
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    To me sasuke is not evil he is just tooo blind and can easily be mislead b anyone, it is just like itachi said he is a blank sheet which can easily be colored by anyone. And if you look at it he was always been guided by wrong type of people first it was oro now it is Madman(madara).
    I agree but now sasuke has reached the stage where the marks on the blank sheet can no longer be rubbed out
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    @sandshark and everyone else.

    If you think about it Shinobi and Kunoichi all kill people regardless of it being part of a mission or simply out of a personal vendetta. Shikamaru lusted for vengeance when Asuma was killed and after he killed Hidan he felt accomplished and probably thought what he did was the right thing -- so does that make Shikamaru evil? The Senju and Uchiha clan were assassins for the hire at some point in the past (very much similar to Himura Kenshin) and killed the people they were assigned to kill and most likely did it regardless of the targeted people being innocent or not. In reality they are people that sentenced to death instead of receiving a life sentence, so does that make the justice system evil? The Uchiha planned a coup dtat out of self defense because they honestly believed they were being oppressed by Konoha and the village (Danzo and elders) responded by sending to kill them instead of attempting to work it more. People say that killing doesnt solve anything but apparently they are people who disagree and feel that it is necessary for what ever purpose.

    On Topic: I dont think that Sasuke is evil because ever since his childhood he has believed that revenge is the only answer. Itachi played a part in this by torturing him via Tsukuyomi and making him witness everyone that he held dear die right before his eyes -- and to boot it all was done by someone he admired and loved. I believe by showing him those events and seeing whom it was done by left him unable to process and later on mentally unstable. Sasuke continued to grow up thinking that revenge solves everything and he is unable to let it go because that is all he knows at the moment. (I believe that only Naruto will be able to reach him) After reading the most current chapter (If it isnt a genjutsu) it further proves my point about Sasuke not being in his right mind due to the incomprehensible amount of agony that he has experienced throughout his life. (much like how Nagato was at some point)
     
         

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    Re: Sasukes is not Evil

    Quote Originally Posted by UnknowNinjaName View Post
    okay lets talk about this how you see revenge? what is revenge for you?

    i want to say that sasuke is not evil cuz he wants just revenge , with revenge you are not becoming evil person cuz he actually just killing evil... thats what i want to say... inside sasuke soul there is empty and peaceful place and that place will not hurt anyone, which means dont touch him he will not touch you thats how i see Sasuke...

    better example: his parents were killed because of itachi , madara, danzo and elders now , he wants revenge on them and he is not evil person cuz of revenge cuz he actually killing evil persons not good once... only when they force them on his way to fight then he will kill you of course cuz he just want revenge ...


    how do you see sasuke and his revenge?
    The fact that he wants revenge surely doesn't make him an evil person.

    But the fact that he has no morals and no limits and he will do whatever he wants to do in order to accomplish his revenge, does make him evil.
     
         

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