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    Hidan vs. Gai

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    Who wins?

    Personally I think Hidan can win this.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    I'm putting my $ on Gai since his Taijutsu is very superb, but high diff ofcourse
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    gai will win with high mid to high diff!!
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by M3U View Post
    I'm putting my $ on Gai since his Taijutsu is very superb, but high diff ofcourse
    True, but Gai is also kinda stupid and he has no intel on Hidan. :P
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Gai is far too fast for Hidan, even in base form.

    Not to mention that Gai has a multitude of ways to incapacitate Hidan. Asakujaku will tear Hidan apart, Hirudora will bury him into the ground, a punch even from base form Gai will
    cave in Hidan's skull, or collapse his spine.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Gai engages Hidan in CQQ.
    Gets scratched
    Dies

    Any other methods of Gai hitting will be ineffective.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Gai is far too fast for Hidan, even in base form.

    Not to mention that Gai has a multitude of ways to incapacitate Hidan. Asakujaku will tear Hidan apart, Hirudora will bury him into the ground, a punch even from base form Gai will
    cave in Hidan's skull, or collapse his spine.
    Nah man. Don't underestimate Hidan's speed. He was somewhat able to keep up with Kakashi.

    Hirudora and Asakujaku weren't able to tear apart Kisame and we both know that Hidan's durability > Kisame's.

    Anyways, thanks for your opinion.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Hidan wins easy
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Gai is far too fast for Hidan, even in base form.

    Not to mention that Gai has a multitude of ways to incapacitate Hidan. Asakujaku will tear Hidan apart, Hirudora will bury him into the ground, a punch even from base form Gai will
    cave in Hidan's skull, or collapse his spine.
    xD lol what he said ...
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    Nah man. Don't underestimate Hidan's speed. He was somewhat able to keep up with Kakashi.

    Hirudora and Asakujaku weren't able to tear apart Kisame and we both know that Hidan's durability > Kisame's.

    Anyways, thanks for your opinion.
    Sorry but this is wrong.

    Gai's speed in base form rivals body flicker technique. If you want, I can find the scan for you of him appearing to punch a shinobi through a cement wall.

    Hidan was blown apart by bomb tags, and regardless Hidan isn't invincible. Bones can be broken, limbs can be shoved into his body, etc.

    Gai has enough strength per punch to collapse Hidan's bones into themselves.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by M3U View Post
    xD lol what he said ...
    What he said it total wrong, irrational, and out of character.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Sorry but this is wrong.

    Gai's speed in base form rivals body flicker technique. If you want, I can find the scan for you of him appearing to punch a shinobi through a cement wall.

    Hidan was blown apart by bomb tags, and regardless Hidan isn't invincible. Bones can be broken, limbs can be shoved into his body, etc.

    Gai has enough strength per punch to collapse Hidan's bones into themselves.
    You keep bringing the same claims/arguments that were already proven wrong
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by EjBlack View Post
    You keep bringing the same claims/arguments that were already proven wrong
    You have literally said nothing that proves me wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    Sorry but this is wrong.

    Gai's speed in base form rivals body flicker technique. If you want, I can find the scan for you of him appearing to punch a shinobi through a cement wall.
    Gai isn't that much faster than Kakashi in base form.. We both know that. -_-


    Hidan was blown apart by bomb tags, and regardless Hidan isn't invincible. Bones can be broken, limbs can be shoved into his body, etc.

    Gai has enough strength per punch to collapse Hidan's bones into themselves.

    You are underestimating Hidan's durability. Hidan didn't get blown apart.. The bombs exploded from all sides and made the wires that restrained him go deeper into his flesh so they cutted off his body parts. You can see that Hidan's body parts were in pieces like somebody cutted them off.




    Nah, Hidan can fight with broken bones. Atsugai broke his bones pretty much, seeing as it hit him head on.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Gai takes this.

    7th gate > explosive tags and wire
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Hidan wins .
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    You have literally said nothing that proves me wrong.
    I debuked that Hidan doesn't break from physical attacks which you keep ignoring.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    I think Hidan wins if there is no intel. If there is intel, Gai goes 7th Gate and rips off Hidans arms and legs. He would rip them off since Gai is stronger than Lee and Lee un-rooted a tree with 1 arm in base.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by EjBlack View Post
    Gai engages Hidan in CQQ.
    Gets scratched
    Dies

    Any other methods of Gai hitting will be ineffective.
    Getting scratched by Hidan does not mean instant kill. Hidan can not draw his circle and perform the ritual as long as Gai keeps him busy in cqc.
    Also; Gai is superior to Hidan cqc; he can seperate Hidan from his scythe; even Lee was able to seperate Kisame from samehada in kazekage rescue arc(and the gap of speed skills between Lee(4,5) and Kisame(4) is smaller than Gai(5) and Hidan's(3,5)); Gai is more than capable to do it against Hidan.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    Gai isn't that much faster than Kakashi in base form.. We both know that. -_-
    What? No. I have no idea where you're getting this from.

    Gai has shown time and again the advantage he has over Kakashi is speed.

    Gai's BASE speed rivals the Body Flicker itself.




    You are underestimating Hidan's durability. Hidan didn't get blown apart.. The bombs exploded from all sides and made the wires that restrained him go deeper into his flesh so they cutted off his body parts. You can see that Hidan's body parts were in pieces like somebody cutted them off.




    Nah, Hidan can fight with broken bones. Atsugai broke his bones pretty much, seeing as it hit him head on.
    It doesn't matter what did the damage regardless, the wires or the tags.

    If Hidan can be cut by simple wires and explosive force, Gai's punches (which have tons -literally, tons- of force behind them) can tear Hidan apart.

    With enough speed and power, a similar effect to cutting can be produced.

    If I have a metal cube, I can cut that cube with a welders cutting tool.

    With enough speed and power behind my punch, I could also shatter that cube with one punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by EjBlack View Post
    I debuked that Hidan doesn't break from physical attacks which you keep ignoring.
    Show me where, because it clearly isn't on this thread.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    What? No. I have no idea where you're getting this from.

    Gai has shown time and again the advantage he has over Kakashi is speed.

    Gai's BASE speed rivals the Body Flicker itself.

    Did you read what I wrote? I said ''He isn't much faster than Kakashi'' not ''Kakashi is faster''.


    It doesn't matter what did the damage regardless, the wires or the tags.

    If Hidan can be cut by simple wires and explosive force, Gai's punches (which have tons -literally, tons- of force behind them) can tear Hidan apart.

    With enough speed and power, a similar effect to cutting can be produced.

    If I have a metal cube, I can cut that cube with a welders cutting tool.

    With enough speed and power behind my punch, I could also shatter that cube with one punch.

    That doesn't matter at all because of two reasons:

    1.) It didn't rip Kisame's body at all.
    2.) Gai wouldn't know that he needs to rip his body apart, seeing as how he has no intel on Hidan.
     
         

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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    I'll post my ten ton marble argument.

    What would happen if you dropped a ten ton marble on Hidan's head? Chest? Arm?

    If he's supposedly immune to physical attacks, it should just bounce off, right?

    Obviously that's not the case. Hidan's head would collapse into his spine. Hidan's chest would blow into his spine. Hidan's arm would be cleaved off.

    Would he be dead? No.

    Would he be incapacitated? Yes.

    Gai's punches carry at LEAST 3 tons of force behind them, in order to shatter a concrete wall. He takes this soundly.

    Not to mention Hidan can't fight what he can't see. Gai's speed solos.


    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post

    Did you read what I wrote? I said ''He isn't much faster than Kakashi'' not ''Kakashi is faster''.
    See above. He is far faster than Kakashi.



    That doesn't matter at all because of two reasons:

    1.) It didn't rip Kisame's body at all.
    2.) Gai wouldn't know that he needs to rip his body apart, seeing as how he has no intel on Hidan.
    See above.

    Kisame's durability is clearly > Hidan's by manga feats.

    I'm not saying he rips him apart by choice. I'm saying his punches at full power will rip him apart
    regardless. The speed and power required to form fireballs from sheer friction >>>>> wires and bom tags, easily.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by caterpillar View Post
    Getting scratched by Hidan does not mean instant kill. Hidan can not draw his circle and perform the ritual as long as Gai keeps him busy in cqc.
    Except that he can do it in the beginning where Gai has no idea why that even benefits him to damage himself just for his religious weirdness(cant find the right word).

    Quote Originally Posted by caterpillar View Post
    Also; Gai is superior to Hidan cqc; he can seperate Hidan from his scythe; even Lee was able to seperate Kisame from samehada in kazekage rescue arc(and the gap of speed skills between Lee(4,5) and Kisame(4) is smaller than Gai(5) and Hidan's(3,5)); Gai is more than capable to do it against Hidan.
    Except that Hidan uses his Taijutsu at mid range so separating is not happening. Kisame and Hidan both have two completely fighting style. You cannot use speed as your argument as it is obvious that Asuma and Kakashi are faster then Hidan yet he was able to pressure them in combat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Itachi View Post
    I'll post my ten ton marble argument.

    What would happen if you dropped a ten ton marble on Hidan's head? Chest? Arm?

    If he's supposedly immune to physical attacks, it should just bounce off, right?

    Obviously that's not the case. Hidan's head would collapse into his spine. Hidan's chest would blow into his spine. Hidan's arm would be cleaved off.

    Would he be dead? No.

    Would he be incapacitated? Yes.

    Gai's punches carry at LEAST 3 tons of force behind them, in order to shatter a concrete wall. He takes this soundly.
    Except this argument is completely baseless in the NV so this whole post is moot.
     
         
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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by EjBlack View Post
    Gai engages Hidan in CQQ.
    Gets scratched
    Dies

    Any other methods of Gai hitting will be ineffective.
    Assuming Gai sits and watches as Hidan assembles his ritual, centers himself, then proceeds to stab his own body...

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
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    Nah, Hidan can fight with broken bones. Atsugai broke his bones pretty much, seeing as it hit him head on.
    Where are you getting Atsugai broke Hidans bones? Kisame took Hirudora head on and no bones were broken.
     
         
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    Re: Hidan vs. Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by EjBlack View Post
    Except this argument is completely baseless in the NV so this whole post is moot.
    How is this baseless in NV?

    Oh wait? it isn't. They have bones and bodies too.
     
         

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