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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    -_-'

    So when I said and i quote



    I was right

    I never said Use the fox entirely, I said INVOLVED the fox, kakuzu he used fox chakra, ergo, the fox was involved.

    Naruto has not yet won a battle where he hasnt used a single ounce of fox chakra
    ok so he's used a bit of its chakra every fight, big deal? he hasn't won them BECAUSE of them, they only aided him. The early fights, yeah the fox did everything. But since the death of jiraiya, Naruto has become somewhat more strategic, not to say smarter.

    The majority of his wins were not attributed to the fact he used some kyuubi chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    All of Narutos victories involve the fox.

    He has never once won a battle without using fox power.

    Sasuke he went 1 tail
    Haku he opened up the seal
    Neji he used the fox
    Gaara he used foxes chakra to summon gamabunta
    Orochimaru he went 4tails
    Pain he went 8/9 tails.


    Both Sasuke and Naruto are majorly powerful for no actual reason of there own but gifts from family members. -_-'

    His Fight against Kakashi both in the beginning and after the time skip...lol and I guess you're right even though it was only for one little frame.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    You can`t really blame Naruto for using the Fox`s Chacra and say that he wins because of it. Its just Chacra. Thats like Saying: Kisame would beat Kakashi because of his huge among of Chacra.

    As long as Naruto doesn`t go "Tail mode" it doesn`t count as using the fox.

    In the Naruto world almost everyone has an "advantage". Kisame his sword, Sarutobi his pipe-line(or whatever), Minato his FTG jutsu. I don`t even get why you bother saying that he even "uses" the fox? What`s the big deal. Everyone are using something!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Karin isnt necesarily dead, fyi based on where she fell she wasnt caught in danzo's trap as well.
    -If Sasuke killed Karin and dosent have a better more useful replacment its an epic fail by kishi(Sasuke did say he had other options at the begining tho)
    -I think its rediculous that the second died simply becuz he was out nembered even if it is by ppl of thunder village(his weakness).He can summon alot of water giving him self advantage by changing the battlefield and controlling it so i dont get how sumtin like 20 below kage lvl ninjas could kill him.

    Maybe we'll c sasuke wit a new team member.btw i wonder wat jugo and suigetsu are up to.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    wait what kind of bad argument is that.. so what if naruto used nintails against neji, neji was at a high lvl of combat for his age becuz of byakugan.He was untouchable thnx to kaiten.Naruto caught him totaly off guard but becuz of that powerful ability he went untouched.If naruto had rasengan then he wouldnt have had to use the fox, he wud jus use rasengan to counter kaiten posibly creating the same explosion which led to his victory and neji wud have been mega owned if naruto summoned gamma bunta when he realised neji was untouchable.Haku had a kekaigenkai which owned even jounin lvl shinobi(as stated by zabuza) so enough said.Gaara constantly used his tailed beast so wats ur point,besides it was never revealed that naruto used the fox for the summon (altho that might be the case) either way garra spammed his biju while naruto only used his twice in that fight.The Orochimaru fight is not even important cuz it was never resolved and naruto didnt go fox mode intentionaly, he just got pissed.In the pain fight the 8/9 tails had nothing to do with his victory, he beat god realm in one on one, he simply outsmarted nagato(dont say the fox tired out pain cuz naruto came straight from training and had to kill 5 bodies then the fox mode injures him as well and pain dosent get tired as the bodies are dead, as long as they get chakra from nagato they are good to go.)
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kydo View Post
    Karin isnt necesarily dead, fyi based on where she fell she wasnt caught in danzo's trap as well.
    -If Sasuke killed Karin and dosent have a better more useful replacment its an epic fail by kishi(Sasuke did say he had other options at the begining tho)
    -I think its rediculous that the second died simply becuz he was out nembered even if it is by ppl of thunder village(his weakness).He can summon alot of water giving him self advantage by changing the battlefield and controlling it so i dont get how sumtin like 20 below kage lvl ninjas could kill him.

    Maybe we'll c sasuke wit a new team member.btw i wonder wat jugo and suigetsu are up to.
    well, kumogakure's force name that was mentioned would have benn agreat like anbu root or something, & who knows later in the manga it is revealed that present kage of kumogakure was also in that force, just a thought, but its sure they were powerful
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto the Toad Sanin View Post
    Long Term Prediction:

    483-493: Sakura is stopped by Kakashi, sasuke leaves, Tobi gets shisuis sharingan. Kakshi is made hokage, Sai's seal vanishes. Tsunade is pronounced dead, funeral chapter where naruto has a thoughts on life. Akatsuki scene, new members, madara re iterates plans, one guy has a rinnengan or something delightfully sinister. Sasuke says he will destroy konoha. It is revealed that madara has mangekyou again due to having two sharingan again. (flash to see he used izanagi on other eye when fighting harishima).
    The forth shinobi war is announced. Kisame is confirmed dead. Oro-kabuto is seen interigating, JUGO AND SUIGETSU. He finds danzo's sealed body remains. He is now completely oro. he wants to find sasuke. Raikage arrives in Konoha with Bee

    493 - 508: Probably the last chapters of part 2. Sasuke comes for bee. Fails, fights naruto, kills elders. Sakira realises she still loves sasuke. Sas leaves. Oro appears behind sasuke back at akatsuki base. Madara gets Killer Bee.
    Raikage is told by bee in his dting words to train naruto in Bijuu jutsu.
    Naruto learns about madara and history.
    (flashback) After Sasuke kills elders,

    Itachi reveals to him in dream that Madara tried to convince the Uchihas to fight konoha, when they refused, he blackmailed itachi into killing shisui, using his sharingan, madara convinces danzou that the uchihas are gonna revolt. Danzo is gien the shiuis sharingan in order to convince the third. Danzo honestly thinks the uchihas are going to revolt.
    Itachi does the massacre to make sure sasuke lives. Danzo finds out it is all madaras plan. But is forced to keep his mouth shut as he has now got the sharingans in his arm. He would lose power if people think the massacre was his idea. so he keeps quiet for himself and konoha.
    Itachi keeps an eye on madara to make sure he doesnt destroy konoha. Finally he reveals Madara will destroy kohaha due to his grudge, and If there ever will be peace sas must kill Madara. When sas aks why he didnt say this before. Itachi says he hoped that he wouldnt have to live a life of revenge and that naruto would do it, but he realised naruto needs help. Sasuke doesnt want to return to konoha so he is going to kill madara on his own, he is still unsure. Itachi reveals he implanrted his sharingan into sasuke oin the day of their battle, sasuke unlocks EMS. Naruto trains in Kyuubi and sage art with E the raikage.

    Sasuke leaves akatsuki after killing orochimaru with EMS. end of part 2



    Probably a Madara Gaiden, and we learn about new members of akatsuki.



    Feed back would be cool. Unlikely but I want it to happen, if something doesnt mae sense, tell me and I will explain my point of view.


    Peace Out:D

    vs. FTW

    FTW

    FTW


    ......

    i think all you wrote make sense but for me there is more about the fight Naruto/Sasuke... because of the curse of hatred in the clan Uchiha about which Madara spoke
    For me this is a important turn of event and there more to see

    NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 462 - Page 11


    The shisuis eyes and this ability to change/influence mind will probably make Sasuke do what Madara have in mind. take out the free will of Sasuke after he discover madara and his implication in the massacre of the Uchiha.

    NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 404 - Page 17
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Its like having mushrooms raining down on you in mario bros, thats how easy sasukes had it -_-'
    ah yes.
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Now in the present it does not matter whether Naruto used the kyuubi in the past or not. Fight after fight he has been learning how to become stronger without the fox's help, the fight with Pain, for the most part, is proof. Don't forget that the reason Naruto was unable to efficiently control chakra at the beginning of the series is because the kyuubi's chakra interfered with the natural flow of his own chakra, something that was said by Jiraiya. If anything, the kyuubi in some ways has been a disadvantage to Naruto. He would have probably started off as a better ninja and not a loser if he had not have the kyuubi. Therefore, you can not blame him for using it. In regards to Danzo, he did not care about his village as much as he claimed to do. If he had, he would not have stayed hidden and allowed Konoha to be obliterated when Pain attack. At the very least, he was a traitor...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    Now in the present it does not matter whether Naruto used the kyuubi in the past or not. Fight after fight he has been learning how to become stronger without the fox's help, the fight with Pain, for the most part, is proof. Don't forget that the reason Naruto was unable to efficiently control chakra at the beginning of the series is because the kyuubi's chakra interfered with the natural flow of his own chakra, something that was said by Jiraiya. If anything, the kyuubi in some ways has been a disadvantage to Naruto. He would have probably started off as a better ninja and not a loser if he had not have the kyuubi. Therefore, you can not blame him for using it. In regards to Danzo, he did not care about his village as much as he claimed to do. If he had, he would not have stayed hidden and allowed Konoha to be obliterated when Pain attack. At the very least, he was a traitor...


    Haku he opened a bit
    chuunin exams he opened more
    sasuke he opened one tail
    orochimaru he opened 4 tails
    Pain he opened 8-9 tails.

    It is the OPPOSITE of the bolded, and the perfect dictionary example of opposite of the raised fonted part.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Haku he opened a bit
    chuunin exams he opened more
    sasuke he opened one tail
    orochimaru he opened 4 tails
    Pain he opened 8-9 tails.

    It is the OPPOSITE of the bolded, and the perfect dictionary example of opposite of the raised fonted part.
    Dude you are missing the point. The seal is becoming weak as time passes. For example when he fought Sasuke he was very emotional but so why didn't he use more of the fox's chakra. Because at that time the seal was strong so he was only able to go 3 tails. And after the time skip he went up to 4 tails against Orochimaru. Yes you are right that the fox has gotten itself involved in every major fight but its not Naruto's fault. The chakra starts to leak when he gets pissed off. We have seen almost every ninja pissed off in a battle or getting frustrated or getting angry. So its natural for him to get angry but not his fault that the Kyuubi's chakra interferes.
    Besides Naruto's character and the Kyuubi in Naruto are one of the things that made his character so interesting. Also the Fourth sealed the Kyuubi inside Naruto so that he can have the special power to defeat Madara who can simply be defeated by a Uchiha or someone who has special power like the First Hokage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Guys can u please explain me what is Gedo Maze or whatever I am confused:confused:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Guys can u please explain me what is Gedo Maze or whatever I am confused:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Killing Karin was a stupid move by Sasuke. How many times has she saved his ass already? Sasuke doesn't seem to have a lot of strategy in his most recent fights. Here is his plan:

    1) Get angry
    2) Run straight ahead like an idiot
    3) Get your ass handed to you
    4) Get healed by Karin
    5) Use MS abilities over and over and over and over again until the enemy dies

    Without Karin, he has to change his whole strategy, and I don't think he's cool-headed enough to do that.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    Guys can u please explain me what is Gedo Maze or whatever I am confused:
    Gedo Mazo, is the Demonic Sealing statue of the outer path, used by Pain, he used it to seal the Tailed beasts mway. It is his personal summon. He used it to Fight hanzo and Danzo when he was younger after Yahiko dies.
    It Has nine eyes, as each beast is sealed, 1 lights up. It has 7 beasts in it now. Although Nagato (pein) is dead. It can still be used by others, Madara states it needs a new Pawn. He says it will be Sasuke.

    You DON'T have to have rinnengan to use it.



    Hopes this helped!!

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Haku he opened a bit
    chuunin exams he opened more
    sasuke he opened one tail
    orochimaru he opened 4 tails
    Pain he opened 8-9 tails.

    It is the OPPOSITE of the bolded, and the perfect dictionary example of opposite of the raised fonted part.
    So? That does not disprove my point...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

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    So? That does not disprove my point...
    you said over the series hes learned to use the fox less and less

    I showed how over the series hes used the fox more and more.

    So yes, it does disprove your point, youre just following the "finger in ear" ignorance approach.

    Kakashi as a child worked hard getting to where he was, creating his own techniques, and trains like a mother and is always on the ball
    Gai and lee work hard to get what they want, even neji a genius still has to work to get his techniques, he isnt GIVEN them.

    Most if not all Ninjas in Naruto have to work in some way.

    Naruto and Sasuke have had it so easy.

    Jiraiya never perfected sage mode over years and years and years, naruto learns it in the time it takes Pain to get to konoha, at best a week.
    Itachi had to murder his clan to get mangekyou, sasuke has to be an emo ******.

    They get so many powerups, both of them, for free, and still whinge about how they dont have enough power
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    you said over the series hes learned to use the fox less and less

    I showed how over the series hes used the fox more and more.

    So yes, it does disprove your point, youre just following the "finger in ear" ignorance approach.

    Kakashi as a child worked hard getting to where he was, creating his own techniques, and trains like a mother and is always on the ball
    Gai and lee work hard to get what they want, even neji a genius still has to work to get his techniques, he isnt GIVEN them.

    Most if not all Ninjas in Naruto have to work in some way.

    Naruto and Sasuke have had it so easy.

    Jiraiya never perfected sage mode over years and years and years, naruto learns it in the time it takes Pain to get to konoha, at best a week.
    Itachi had to murder his clan to get mangekyou, sasuke has to be an emo ******.

    They get so many powerups, both of them, for free, and still whinge about how they dont have enough power
    The main characters in crazy fantasy/ninja/battle stories like this always get power-ups. Why does it bother you so much? I'm sure Naruto and Sasuke both worked plenty hard over the timeskip, anyhow. Anyone with the Sharingan has a really fast learning curve thanks to the copy ability. Its not their fault, they were born with it. Any Jinchuuriki has an automatic huge amount of chakra that they can access. It was put into Naruto not long after birth so it's not his fault. Ease up with the main character bashing.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Naruto decided after he hurt sakura that he wouldnt use the fox, and the only time after that was when he couldnt help it when hinata almost died, therefore over time since that fight with oro hes learnt to use the fox less and less and now he relies on his own strengths like sage mode and fuuton rasen shuriken
     
         

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