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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    you said over the series hes learned to use the fox less and less

    I showed how over the series hes used the fox more and more.

    So yes, it does disprove your point, youre just following the "finger in ear" ignorance approach.

    Kakashi as a child worked hard getting to where he was, creating his own techniques, and trains like a mother and is always on the ball
    Gai and lee work hard to get what they want, even neji a genius still has to work to get his techniques, he isnt GIVEN them.

    Most if not all Ninjas in Naruto have to work in some way.

    Naruto and Sasuke have had it so easy.

    Jiraiya never perfected sage mode over years and years and years, naruto learns it in the time it takes Pain to get to konoha, at best a week.
    Itachi had to murder his clan to get mangekyou, sasuke has to be an emo ******.

    They get so many powerups, both of them, for free, and still whinge about how they dont have enough power
    I think that the only ignorant person in this forum is you. You are using very obscene language without justification. In some instances, over the years, Naruto has used more of the fox's power, but for the most part, he has used less and less. Did he learn to combine wind chakra and rasengan using the fox? Learning sage mode? During the fight with Pain he only used the fox almost at the end of the fight. The reason why Sasuke and Naruto are getting so strong so quickly is because they are supposed to surpass the previous generation. The Fourth Hokage was amazingly strong for his age, wasn't he? I think it's safe to assume that you are the one that does not understand the story...
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    I think that the only ignorance person in this forum is you. You are using very obscene language without justification. In some instances, over the years, Naruto has used more of the fox's power, but for the most part, he has used less and less. Did he learn to combine wind chakra and rasengan using the fox? Learning sage mode? During the fight with Pain he only used the fox almost at the end of the fight. The reason why Sasuke and Naruto are getting so strong so quickly is because they are supposed to surpass the previous generation. The Fourth Hokage was amazingly strong for his age, wasn't he? I think it's safe to assume that you are the one that does not understand the story...
    For the most part i agree with you
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    you said over the series hes learned to use the fox less and less

    I showed how over the series hes used the fox more and more.

    So yes, it does disprove your point, youre just following the "finger in ear" ignorance approach.

    Kakashi as a child worked hard getting to where he was, creating his own techniques, and trains like a mother and is always on the ball
    Gai and lee work hard to get what they want, even neji a genius still has to work to get his techniques, he isnt GIVEN them.

    Most if not all Ninjas in Naruto have to work in some way.

    Naruto and Sasuke have had it so easy.

    Jiraiya never perfected sage mode over years and years and years, naruto learns it in the time it takes Pain to get to konoha, at best a week.
    Itachi had to murder his clan to get mangekyou, sasuke has to be an emo ******.

    They get so many powerups, both of them, for free, and still whinge about how they dont have enough power
    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    I think that the only ignorance person in this forum is you. You are using very obscene language without justification. In some instances, over the years, Naruto has used more of the fox's power, but for the most part, he has used less and less. Did he learn to combine wind chakra and rasengan using the fox? Learning sage mode? During the fight with Pain he only used the fox almost at the end of the fight. The reason why Sasuke and Naruto are getting so strong so quickly is because they are supposed to surpass the previous generation. The Fourth Hokage was amazingly strong for his age, wasn't he? I think it's safe to assume that you are the one that does not understand the story...

    Guys chill, it purely perspective.

    A) All main characters have an advantage, it is life.

    B) Chill, both are valid points, no need to start flaming like 12 year olds. JUst have a civilised convo. Jeez....



    I think both are good points, although, there is nothing wrong w/ relying on Kyuubi, he just has to control it, then mix it with his Sage mode. Kihi will find a way, and Sasuke is meant to be a prodgilistic cold, elite who is natrually gifted.

    Peace (& love) Out:D


     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto the Toad Sanin View Post
    Guys chill, it purely perspective.

    A) All main characters have an advantage, it is life.

    B) Chill, both are valid points, no need to start flaming like 12 year olds. JUst have a civilised convo. Jeez....



    I think both are good points, although, there is nothing wrong w/ relying on Kyuubi, he just has to control it, then mix it with his Sage mode. Kihi will find a way, and Sasuke is meant to be a prodgilistic cold, elite who is natrually gifted.

    Peace (& love) Out:D



    peace keeper :D

    Well the kyuubi was a gift from his father so he can use its power to save his friends and protect the village, but as he cant use it propperly its more of a burden than asset so he doesnt want to rely on it
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto the Toad Sanin View Post
    Guys chill, it purely perspective.

    A) All main characters have an advantage, it is life.

    B) Chill, both are valid points, no need to start flaming like 12 year olds. JUst have a civilised convo. Jeez....



    I think both are good points, although, there is nothing wrong w/ relying on Kyuubi, he just has to control it, then mix it with his Sage mode. Kihi will find a way, and Sasuke is meant to be a prodgilistic cold, elite who is natrually gifted.

    Peace (& love) Out:D


    What do you mean by "12-year old"? He got wise with me and I put him in his place. I respect to be respected. That is my ninja way...
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    What do you mean by "12-year old"? He got wise with me and I put him in his place. I respect to be respect. That is my ninja way...
    You`re a genius Nice one:D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruler Michael View Post
    You`re a genius Nice one:D
    Thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto the Toad Sanin View Post
    Gedo Mazo, is the Demonic Sealing statue of the outer path, used by Pain, he used it to seal the Tailed beasts mway. It is his personal summon. He used it to Fight hanzo and Danzo when he was younger after Yahiko dies.
    It Has nine eyes, as each beast is sealed, 1 lights up. It has 7 beasts in it now. Although Nagato (pein) is dead. It can still be used by others, Madara states it needs a new Pawn. He says it will be Sasuke.

    You DON'T have to have rinnengan to use it.



    Hopes this helped!!

    Peace Out:D
    Thanks dude:D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    Now in the present it does not matter whether Naruto used the kyuubi in the past or not. Fight after fight he has been learning how to become stronger without the fox's help, the fight with Pain, for the most part, is proof. Don't forget that the reason Naruto was unable to efficiently control chakra at the beginning of the series is because the kyuubi's chakra interfered with the natural flow of his own chakra, something that was said by Jiraiya. If anything, the kyuubi in some ways has been a disadvantage to Naruto. He would have probably started off as a better ninja and not a loser if he had not have the kyuubi. Therefore, you can not blame him for using it. In regards to Danzo, he did not care about his village as much as he claimed to do. If he had, he would not have stayed hidden and allowed Konoha to be obliterated when Pain attack. At the very least, he was a traitor...
    i agree w/ the naruto part but as far as danzo goes i think that ur wrong (respectfully of course lol). i think that danzo thougt that being in the shadows was a necessary action to keep the village's name clean so to speak. like that one goon u get to do all your dirty work. that was danzo's job. he had to do what (diplomatically) the hokage couldn't. his goals were always to continue the strangle hold that the first had created. i believe that he was like the cia and the root were his spies if u get my drift. jus my opinion tho.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    To tell u the truth i am tired of this debate going on that Naruto gets help from fox blah blah blah....

    So lets move on

    But i do have a question out of this debate. It seems to me that Naruto even without the Fox's chakra has high amounts of chakra within himself...... i dont know how I got to this but there has to be something.... so anyone has any ideas to suggest that Naruto has some other special powers even without the fox's chakra???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by zed View Post
    To tell u the truth i am tired of this debate going on that Naruto gets help from fox blah blah blah....

    So lets move on

    But i do have a question out of this debate. It seems to me that Naruto even without the Fox's chakra has high amounts of chakra within himself...... i dont know how I got to this but there has to be something.... so anyone has any ideas to suggest that Naruto has some other special powers even without the fox's chakra???


    He is a senju and like all senjus he has high amounts of chakra!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by rsensuriken View Post
    He is a senju and like all senjus he has high amounts of chakra!!
    Naruto is not related to senju
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazekage Gaara View Post
    Naruto is not related to senju
    I remember Kakashi telling Naruto that Naruto has 4 times more chakra than Kakashi and if u add the Kyuubi its like 100 times. Furthermore Naruto can lots and I mean lots of Kagebunshin which requires lots of chakras. So Naruto himself has an extraordinary amount of chakra without the Kyuubi. Now is Naruto really a Senju? Well Konoha was suppose to be a land where there were suppose to be the Uchiha's the other clans like Huuga and the Senjus. However we have not seen anyone besides the First Hokage and his descendants like Tusnade. But otherwise no one with the name of Senju. So my guess is the Senju is not exactly a clan, they were people from the forest (as they were said Senju of the forest or similar to that)with different clans working as one with the name of Senju as it was the strongest. Its just a guess though.
    I also remember Madara saying that seeing Naruto reminds him of the First the same will of fire like the Senju also he has lots of chakra. Plus Madara said that his battle with Sasuke was and is inevitable. Like Senju vs Uchiha just like Madara fought Hashirama. So its quite safe to say Naruto is a Senju.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazekage Gaara View Post
    Naruto is not related to senju
    Naruto is a senju madara said it.I think a clan is more like a family that was divided in smaller groups,for a example one group are the Namikaze.Just like the huygas the have the main family and the branch family. What I'm saying is that you don't have to have the senju name to be a senju.

    Here is the manga where madara clearly said that naruto is a senju!!!

    Naruto 462 page 11 | One Manga

    Just read the manga from page 11 till the end this is basically the manga that explains the character of sasuke and naruto the reason their rivalry is so strong and why their fight is inevitable.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Sasuke is following Orochimaru/Madara's footsteps... killing his team to get wat he wants ... and Sakura has gone crazy @_@ ... she thinks naruto cant handle sasuke?? whos she kidding ... she isnt even at the lvl of standing in front of sasuke/naruto...


    seriously ,,, the chapters are bcoming more of Sasuke Shippuuden than Naurto Shippuuden :S...

    I want some naruto in it T_T ..




    and yes he is a senju .. or a part of the branch if not direct descendant ...


    Like Rsensuriken said.. read the manga chapter .... he said he sees Senju Hashirama in Naruto. ... No1 says , "Oh i see ur neighbour in you" ....but some relative or ancestor is seen within a person(or his actions) ...

    Sasuke has the eyes if the Rikkudou Sage and Naruto has the body(willpower) ...

    But naruto is already a sage :D ... can see the end much more clearly ...
    Naruto, the Kyuubi Sage ":D
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by rsensuriken View Post
    He is a senju and like all senjus he has high amounts of chakra!!
    Correct me if i am wrong, but on page 12 it says "Elder (uchihas) was born with sage eyes..... and powerful chakras....". It seams like the uchihas should have powerful chakras and senjus with 'Life force' and 'Physical Energy' !!!

    Now the question is: what is "life force' and 'physical energy"? I understand that they should have powerful bodies and maybe good in taijutsu.... but what else???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Physical energy is your energy inside you and i think your life force is your spiritual energy like chakra, i may be wrong
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    heyy i was wondering where the hell is naruto's coat??

    did kishi made him use it that one time only to shut us up???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    Maybe it isn`t warm enough for a visit in a "snow" country
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 481 Discussion and 482 Predictions

    in new in this forum but what u think Juugo an Suigetsu will do when they find out karin is dead and sasuke killed her ? :D
     
         

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