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    Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    So after watching a few of the 300 episodes I find with the new info about zangetsu intriguing why because of this ichigo's real sword was the hollow zangetsu not the juha zangetsu, the part which intrigues me is when he was training for ftg (final getsuga tenshou). Now I say this because ichigo never seen tensa zangetsu before so it is really awkward in the fact that when white ichigo or hollow zangetsu showed up it was in the form of that beast his full hollow. Now does that mean that his full hollow had something to do with his actual zangetsu and not the fake it could be.

    Remember how ichigo was scared of this power he was scared because it was overwhelming he never had such power that was really his hollow/shinigami power to a full blown limit IMO. You can argue no because of what juha and zangetsu have said in the last chapters but it makes some sense. Ichigo's power he shown for fgt was actually quite watered down IMO he lost it right away that made no sense especially if juha/zangetsu was not letting him use full power. We could see a full white cloak bankai soon and red getsuga but who knows.

    Does anyone have mixed feelings on some of this with all the latest info about zangetsu and all does the hollow tensa zangetsu mean that was a hidden tell by kubo.
     
         

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    Re: Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    i think the only reason he lost his 'powers' was because juha bach wanted to protect him. so by doing that, he took away all his shinigami powers so ichigo wouldn't have to fight juha bach in the future, like he said. it was to protect ichigo.
     
         

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    Re: Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    We r all fully aware of that Ichigo is a combination of shinigami,Qncy and Hollow......Ichigo's father knw every thng abt fgt,his words during Ichigo's training hint's that he had already used FGT so that he lost his pwr's,means that Ichigo lost some of his shinigami pwrs which are free from the source of qncy inside Ichigo....and he did it in order to protect Ichigo............
     
         

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    Re: Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    Or maybe he just used to much of his riatsu!!!
     
         

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    Re: Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    Hold on... wow bunch of you got things wrong.

    - Isshin (Ichigo's dad) DID NOT lose his powers to the Final Getsuga Tensho. He lost his powers (if you kept up with the manga so far) by agreeing to protect Masaki and combining with a Human Soul to counter her Quincy + Hollow Soul. Yes he knew about the FGT, but we have yet to figure out if he actually used it in his previous life as a Shinigami.

    - If you followed the Quincy storyline put out by Urryuu Ishida, Matured Quincy's can lose their powers if they use their Ultimate Technique or break a Piece of Battle Gear to gain a superior boost in power. Look back at when Ishida fought against Mayuri in the Soul Society Saga trying to free Rukia. However he was not a matured Quincy and hasnt even tapped into the roots of his power so it only affected what little he had. He gained his powers back. That is the backlash of the Quincy powers. In theory this definitely happened to Ichigo when he was fighting Tensa Zangetsu for the right to use the FGT. Nearly all of Ichigo's Shinigami powers were just an emulation, or fake and were actually his Quincy powers doing all the work. So when Ichigo was using the FGT he pretty much followed the Quincy power path and called his Ultimate Power out for a limited power boost, just like Ishida did. Over time Ichigo wouldve naturally gained his powers back. Otherwise he would not have been able to get any power back the Fullbringers or from the Captains.
     
         

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    Re: Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    Quote Originally Posted by adventnova View Post
    Hold on... wow bunch of you got things wrong.

    - Isshin (Ichigo's dad) DID NOT lose his powers to the Final Getsuga Tensho. He lost his powers (if you kept up with the manga so far) by agreeing to protect Masaki and combining with a Human Soul to counter her Quincy + Hollow Soul. Yes he knew about the FGT, but we have yet to figure out if he actually used it in his previous life as a Shinigami.

    - If you followed the Quincy storyline put out by Urryuu Ishida, Matured Quincy's can lose their powers if they use their Ultimate Technique or break a Piece of Battle Gear to gain a superior boost in power. Look back at when Ishida fought against Mayuri in the Soul Society Saga trying to free Rukia. However he was not a matured Quincy and hasnt even tapped into the roots of his power so it only affected what little he had. He gained his powers back. That is the backlash of the Quincy powers. In theory this definitely happened to Ichigo when he was fighting Tensa Zangetsu for the right to use the FGT. Nearly all of Ichigo's Shinigami powers were just an emulation, or fake and were actually his Quincy powers doing all the work. So when Ichigo was using the FGT he pretty much followed the Quincy power path and called his Ultimate Power out for a limited power boost, just like Ishida did. Over time Ichigo wouldve naturally gained his powers back. Otherwise he would not have been able to get any power back the Fullbringers or from the Captains.
    So here is another question then after reading all of these I find one point when ichigo went full hollow against ulquiorra do you feel that it was his actual zangetsu soul reaper powers and that fgt was more laced of his Quincy type power's or do you feel like it was kinda a mixture because we don't know at what level the fake zangetsu can work his magics.
     
         

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    Re: Ichigo's final getsuga tenshou

    No, Dangai Ichigo/FGT Ichigo, is the strongest character in the series so far, in fact to get to that form both his hollow/shinigami and Quincy powers combined. I think the reason Juha (kid version) said he wanted to protect Ichigo I think what he meant was exactly what he said, he didn't want Ichigo to become a Shinigami because he would get hurt.

    Other than that FGT Ichigo was never watered down, the only people who watered it down are the fans of the series, it was stated that FGT Ichigo was on a completely different level to any character, and the reason he lost that power was so the series could progress without being boring and having Ichigo win all the time, since with his FGT powers he would have been able to defeat Juhabach.
     
         

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