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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Bansho Tenin View Post
    Kamui is the dimension inside obito's eyes. Kakashi has obito's eye so he has access to the same thing.


    no one else but him does. so yes it kind of is a seal. if you dont have the way to get there (obito's ms) then then you're screwed.
    Exactly.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    Exactly.


    what about the juubi? do you think it can force its way out?


    (ie: buu and gotenks screaming their way out of the hyporbolic time chamber)


    thats the only thing i could relate that too.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Bansho Tenin View Post
    what about the juubi? do you think it can force its way out?


    (ie: buu and gotenks screaming their way out of the hyporbolic time chamber)


    thats the only thing i could relate that too.
    DBZ power levels are broken lol. No way in hell is the Jubi breaking out.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    we do not know the capability of a person who already has a sharingan and a rinnegan having a tailed beast, no less the juubi inside them.

    All we know is anyone with a sharingan can own a tailed beast by looking at them. and the rinnengan being most likely from the juubi, Obito has an advantage that the Rikudou didnt.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    i agree. it can be used as space time justu only because of plot no justu (ex: obito getting to sasuke before naruto and kakashi along with the other leaf ninja.) it does indeed seal people, objects and chakra inside the a kamui dimension.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    I see where you are coming from with the sealing idea, but I have my doubts.

    Amazing job though!
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

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    Explain why Kamui was used on the Jubi. Explain how it was sealed without physical distraught. Technically yes, Kakashi is sealed within Obito, but due to him having Kamui in which can also access the dimension he can release himself via Kamui.
    the major technical problem i see is that this dimension must be some other neutral place, not within obito. Kakashi was in no way surprised by the place because in learning to kamui himself, he had been there before, if he did all that then he would have been within obito before (no innuendo intended), meaning obito would already have had many opportunities to confront kakashi within his personal dimension. Also, another thing that classifies it as a S/T jutsu working in a neutral dimension, is the fact that minatos FTG worked via that dimension, we know that because obito had not shown any other tech at the time but his kamui and his transparency jutsu and yet he was able to clash with minato while minato travelled in this alternate dimension to a point in real world that allowed the travel to be instant. so if not only kakashi has access to it, but minato does as well, i doubt it is a sealing technique, or at least kamui dumps them into a neutral dimension that can be accessed several ways.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by david098 View Post
    i agree. it can be used as space time justu only because of plot no justu (ex: obito getting to sasuke before naruto and kakashi along with the other leaf ninja.) it does indeed seal people, objects and chakra inside the a kamui dimension.
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin2640 View Post
    I see where you are coming from with the sealing idea, but I have my doubts.

    Amazing job though!
    Thanks guys!
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by spatha View Post
    the major technical problem i see is that this dimension must be some other neutral place, not within obito. Kakashi was in no way surprised by the place because in learning to kamui himself, he had been there before, if he did all that then he would have been within obito before (no innuendo intended), meaning obito would already have had many opportunities to confront kakashi within his personal dimension. Also, another thing that classifies it as a S/T jutsu working in a neutral dimension, is the fact that minatos FTG worked via that dimension, we know that because obito had not shown any other tech at the time but his kamui and his transparency jutsu and yet he was able to clash with minato while minato travelled in this alternate dimension to a point in real world that allowed the travel to be instant. so if not only kakashi has access to it, but minato does as well, i doubt it is a sealing technique, or at least kamui dumps them into a neutral dimension that can be accessed several ways.

    minatos ftg is a s/t technique between 2 points via seals. if it was related to kamui then Obito would of already known.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Let's just wait and see what happened. I think for being a "theory" (better said, Hipothesis), it's quite good.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirudora View Post
    Let's just wait and see what happened. I think for being a "theory" (better said, Hipothesis), it's quite good.
    Quite the flattering you're doing here my man.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

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    DBZ power levels are broken lol. No way in hell is the Jubi breaking out.
    You sure the Juubi isn't going to break out? Even when it enters it's Final form?
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatum View Post
    You sure the Juubi isn't going to break out? Even when it enters it's Final form?
    I think it may overpower him, and take over his conscience. Obito having a body of Hashirama's DNA (aka Wood Release) suppresses Bijuu chakra, so the Jubi could be resisted possibly.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    i could buy this, only that pic where "juubi was sucked" doesn't look juubi related, i thought it was some mokuton jutsu.. but your probably right hashirama was elswhere and even kishimoto can't come up something better, juubi was already sealed inside rikudou's jutsu hashirama performed it, might done this impossible to resist or something
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    True, true.



    True indeed. But does it seem plausible?



    Indeed it does! Thanks man.
    Hahaha

    No, but i just want to wait for it.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Disagree. It's classified as S/T. While it can be used for different functions for example trapping/sealing someone doesn't change its true origin which is space time ninjutsu. Obito uses kamui to teleport anywhere he chooses, would you also call that sealibg? I dont think so. What about his intangibility? You're basically saying Obito is sealing his self everytime he sends a part of his body to his dimension. I see no reason why you would considerate a sealing techbique when its a possibilty that Minato can escape the dimension with the use of his FTG.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    So what exactly are you proposing?
    That your theory doesn't account for the transportation of objects anywhere in space-time :/

    Perhaps it's a complex or hybrid jutsu, like a sealing and space-time jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    No . Hmm , I think Kamui is a space time ninjutsu . He might have sealed the Juubi with any other jutsu of his .
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Agreed. The fact that sealing jutsu and summoning jutsu are used in conjunction, with one being fuinjutsu and one being S/T jutsu yet still branching from the same technique (i'm thinking about tenten and sasuke's shuriken sealed bracelets) it stands to reason that obito's kamui (a S/T technique) can be considered a fuinjutsu, only with the middleman removed. IE; the seal.

    Technically, wouldn't reverse fuinjutsu be classified as S/T jutsu.....? Hmmmmmmmm.
     
         
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    Re: (DrProof) Kamui's True Classification | Fūinjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Agreed. The fact that sealing jutsu and summoning jutsu are used in conjunction, with one being fuinjutsu and one being S/T jutsu yet still branching from the same technique (i'm thinking about tenten and sasuke's shuriken sealed bracelets) it stands to reason that obito's kamui (a S/T technique) can be considered a fuinjutsu, only with the middleman removed. IE; the seal.
    Damn you're right! I forgot about Summoning Techniques being S/T. This would have strengthened my theory even more.
     
         

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