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    No one would have had a problem with Obito

    if rin was a boy.

    face it. every other villain's motivation (if not villain then a cynical nihilist) is based around the death of a single man in some or other way. or a betrayal of some sort.
    nagato is betrayed by hanzo, yahiko dies.
    madara loses izuna/hashirama (either one. old man madara clearly isnt motivated by izunas death).
    sasuke loses itachi
    kakashi loses his father

    NO ONE has a problem with any of that. its readily accepted that nagato lost his fukin mind after yahiko died.
    had rin been a man, this is what the reaction would be. "fuk kakashi, man. bros before that hoe hiruzen. you dont just kill your bro, man. obito ftw. avenge him!"
    literally. thats what would have happened.
    madara lost his worthy opponent/greatest rival and feels as if hashirama should still be alive if he knew how weak the new generation would end up. no one questioned that. it was just accepted and moved on that madara's evil revolves around him being bitter at losing to his rival. is that not his main characterisation? is anyone angry about this?

    it strikes me as remarkably misygonistic and sexist that obito sucks just because his motivation is a girl. even though he never confessed the feelings and thus wasnt "friendzoned". even though he treated her more as a best friend that was suddenly taken from him by a cruel system.

    i am certain that obito would have been much more liked in this forum had rin been male. its just the way it is. call it rebounding sakura hate onto rin. call it bitterness over your own friendzonings, whatever. the point is it would have gone over much smoothly. if kakashi went absolutely batshit evil after obito died, he would be scum for wasting that new eye, but he would be a well liked and charismatic villain. because that is a good motivation. your friend and comrade is senselessly and brutally crushed by the rock village right in front of you. anyone could vow revenge after that. easily.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    meh even if rin was a male i would still hate juubito he is a whinny ***** i still wish he stayed tobi untill he died
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    That's so true
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    If Rin was a boy, and Kakashi was a girl - but with the same personality, then Obito would be gay for Rin and he would call Kakashi a "b*tch".
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Then Obito would be a gay and he still would be a villain.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    This is so true bro .
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Well, I don't believe in twu wuv between children... Which is my problem with Obito's motivation.
     
         
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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    The difference between Obito and those others you mentioned is that they didn't start the Fourth Shinobi World War over it, or try to "recreate/punish" the entire world.

     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    This is totally true.

    To be perfectly honest, I fail to see what is even wrong with Obito's motivation.

    - Boy watches loved one die
    - Boy grows sick of world and wishes loved one did not die
    - Boy is shown a perfect way to fix this problem
    - Boy attempts to fix the problem

    Can you blame Obito? I refuse to believe Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi or even Sakura wouldn't do the same thing in his position.
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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by roncato View Post
    Then Obito would be a gay and he still would be a villain.
    he is just ranting, every single thread he makes, is a rant.

    he is a troll

    topic : this is the best reply
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    he is just ranting, every single thread he makes, is a rant.

    he is a troll

    topic : this is the best reply
    I think you need to learn the definition of the word troll then because this is a very legitimate point Trunks is making.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Yes we know that rin was the reason for everything...
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    I think you need to learn the definition of the word troll then because this is a very legitimate point Trunks is making.
    i think you need to go look at all his previous threads. i dont agree with his rants.

    also , USSJ Future Trunks, thank you for the new quote. lol
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by the big boss View Post
    i think you need to go look at all his previous threads. i dont agree with his rants.

    also , USSJ Future Trunks, thank you for the new quote. lol
    Fair enough if you don't like the user, but there's nothing in this thread trollish, nobody would complain about it and say such dumb things as "friendzoned lolzorz"
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by the big boss View Post
    i think you need to go look at all his previous threads. i dont agree with his rants.

    also , USSJ Future Trunks, thank you for the new quote. lol
    you think everyone is a troll look at your past posts
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    at the people calling trunks a troll. He's making a pretty legit argument here.

    But, I will say Obito's actions are more the issue than his motivation. The way he behaves (i.e. calling everybody trash and moaning about the ninja world) is the problem.

    The motivation and the action don't sync. But when people complain about his motivation alone, that's stupid. People in this manga (or any shonen manga) never have a valid reason to do the twisted things they do.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    you think everyone is a troll look at your past posts
    your are the last person to speak to me about anything. look at your posts.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    The difference between Obito and those others you mentioned is that they didn't start the Fourth Shinobi World War over it, or try to "recreate/punish" the entire world.
    and obito didnt either. obitos motivation is rin but its also to change the world and give it "real hope".

    even Sakura wouldn't do the same thing in his position.
    no sakura wouldnt. even hurting someone she knows is too painful no matter how evil she percieves them to be. she jumped in front of a poisoned sword to save an old woman she barely knows. someone like that couldnt turn cynical and evil.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    and obito didnt either. obitos motivation is rin but its also to change the world and give it "real hope".

    no sakura wouldnt. even hurting someone she knows is too painful no matter how evil she percieves them to be. she jumped in front of a poisoned sword to save an old woman she barely knows. someone like that couldnt turn cynical and evil.
    And why exactly do you think he wants to "change" the world...?

    Because of Rin lol. Everything he is doing is because of Rin. There are no excuses.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Zabuza was evil just for the sake of being evil.
    He killed people for fun, and wasn't betrayed nor became a villain because someone close died.
     
         

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    I agree. no one seems to have a problem with all the bromance(?) in Naruto, yet when Obito loses his mind over a girl it's not okay......but when Madara does it for his brother or Naruto does it for Sasuke, it's "understandable".
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    if rin was a boy.

    face it. every other villain's motivation (if not villain then a cynical nihilist) is based around the death of a single man in some or other way. or a betrayal of some sort.
    nagato is betrayed by hanzo, yahiko dies.
    madara loses izuna/hashirama (either one. old man madara clearly isnt motivated by izunas death).
    sasuke loses itachi
    kakashi loses his father

    NO ONE has a problem with any of that. its readily accepted that nagato lost his fukin mind after yahiko died.
    had rin been a man, this is what the reaction would be. "fuk kakashi, man. bros before that hoe hiruzen. you dont just kill your bro, man. obito ftw. avenge him!"
    literally. thats what would have happened.
    madara lost his worthy opponent/greatest rival and feels as if hashirama should still be alive if he knew how weak the new generation would end up. no one questioned that. it was just accepted and moved on that madara's evil revolves around him being bitter at losing to his rival. is that not his main characterisation? is anyone angry about this?

    it strikes me as remarkably misygonistic and sexist that obito sucks just because his motivation is a girl. even though he never confessed the feelings and thus wasnt "friendzoned". even though he treated her more as a best friend that was suddenly taken from him by a cruel system.

    i am certain that obito would have been much more liked in this forum had rin been male. its just the way it is. call it rebounding sakura hate onto rin. call it bitterness over your own friendzonings, whatever. the point is it would have gone over much smoothly. if kakashi went absolutely batshit evil after obito died, he would be scum for wasting that new eye, but he would be a well liked and charismatic villain. because that is a good motivation. your friend and comrade is senselessly and brutally crushed by the rock village right in front of you. anyone could vow revenge after that. easily.
    You sound pretty dumb. But you're fucking right
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    I agree. no one seems to have a problem with all the bromance(?) in Naruto, yet when Obito loses his mind over a girl it's not okay......but when Madara does it for his brother or Naruto does it for Sasuke, it's "understandable".
    Bro's over hoes. But tbh if they were both in love then it would be understandable. But Obito did this for someone who friend zones him so hard he started a war. If she loved him back then it would be understandable. And people were complaining about naruto chasing after sasuke. They were calling him gay and all that
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

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    And why exactly do you think he wants to "change" the world...?

    Because of Rin lol. Everything he is doing is because of Rin. There are no excuses.
    And why did Nagato become pain? Because of Yahiko.
     
         

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    Re: No one would have had a problem with Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    if rin was a boy.

    face it. every other villain's motivation (if not villain then a cynical nihilist) is based around the death of a single man in some or other way. or a betrayal of some sort.
    nagato is betrayed by hanzo, yahiko dies.
    madara loses izuna/hashirama (either one. old man madara clearly isnt motivated by izunas death).
    sasuke loses itachi you are right
    kakashi loses his father

    NO ONE has a problem with any of that. its readily accepted that nagato lost his fukin mind after yahiko died.
    had rin been a man, this is what the reaction would be. "fuk kakashi, man. bros before that hoe hiruzen. you dont just kill your bro, man. obito ftw. avenge him!"
    literally. thats what would have happened.
    madara lost his worthy opponent/greatest rival and feels as if hashirama should still be alive if he knew how weak the new generation would end up. no one questioned that. it was just accepted and moved on that madara's evil revolves around him being bitter at losing to his rival. is that not his main characterisation? is anyone angry about this?

    it strikes me as remarkably misygonistic and sexist that obito sucks just because his motivation is a girl. even though he never confessed the feelings and thus wasnt "friendzoned". even though he treated her more as a best friend that was suddenly taken from him by a cruel system.

    i am certain that obito would have been much more liked in this forum had rin been male. its just the way it is. call it rebounding sakura hate onto rin. call it bitterness over your own friendzonings, whatever. the point is it would have gone over much smoothly. if kakashi went absolutely batshit evil after obito died, he would be scum for wasting that new eye, but he would be a well liked and charismatic villain. because that is a good motivation. your friend and comrade is senselessly and brutally crushed by the rock village right in front of you. anyone could vow revenge after that. easily.
    .............
     
         

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