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    Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    While holding the barrier jutsu Hashirama produced 4 clones and his brother 2 clones...


    So Hashirama is 4x stronger than Tobirama?

    Just by looking at their limited clones?

    Hashirama had 6 clones while Tobirama was able to produce only 2, so 4x stronger yay!

    Agreed?


    Or 2 times stronger only?



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    ......... math was killed by the op

    and since when does the number of shadow clones you can produce dictate your strength
     
         
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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by RNITBmsage View Post
    and since when does the number of shadow clones you can produce dictate your strength
    ok, chakra levels then

    this can gauge the amount of chakra one can possess?
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    uhm Hashirama is using sage mode

    so i guess more chakra then??
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    And Minato was able to create only one, and Hiruzen wasn't able to make not even a clone. This shows the difference between their Chakra levels. If Tsunade would be here, I think she would be able to make 3 clones.

    1. Hashirama
    2. Tsunade
    3. Tobirama
    4. Minato
    5. Hiruzen
     
         
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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Your Math is off ... It wld be Hashirama/Tobirama=6/2=3 times .... Which would mean Tobirama has about 33.33% of SM Hashirama's Chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Hashirama made 6 actually


     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobby17 View Post
    uhm Hashirama is using sage mode

    so i guess more chakra then??
    true, very perceptive sir

    now, just how much chakra is consumed during the initiation of sage mode?

    Quote Originally Posted by SageModeV2 View Post
    Hashirama made 6 actually


    I mentioned that kind sir
     
         
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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilOne View Post
    And Minato was able to create only one, and Hiruzen wasn't able to make not even a clone. This shows the difference between their Chakra levels. If Tsunade would be here, I think she would be able to make 3 clones.
    Minato created only one but never said it was his limit unlike Tobirama and Hashirama ..... Hiru didnt even create one. So due to lack of proper evidence we have to consider that Minato has about 15-16% of SM Hashirama's Chakra at the very least, which in itself may be impressive cos roughly same or less amount of Hashi Cells were able to support 11 Sharingans and reduce KA cooldown from few years to few hours as it was seen in the case of Danzo.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    hashirama made mokuton clones, shadow clones split chakra evenly while that is not so with other types of clones so the comparison itself is a fail
    minato made one to directly kill obito
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by Anorien16 View Post
    Minato created only one but never said it was his limit unlike Tobirama and Hashirama ..... Hiru didnt even create one. So due to lack of proper evidence we have to consider that Minato has about 15-16% of SM Hashirama's Chakra at the very least, which in itself may be impressive cos roughly same or less amount of Hashi Cells were able to support 11 Sharingans and reduce KA cooldown from few years to few hours as it was seen in the case of Danzo.
    True, however I think Kishi wanted to show the difference between the chakra levels of a Senju and a non Senju.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by Anorien16 View Post
    Minato created only one but never said it was his limit unlike Tobirama and Hashirama ..... Hiru didnt even create one. So due to lack of proper evidence we have to consider that Minato has about 15-16% of SM Hashirama's Chakra at the very least, which in itself may be impressive cos roughly same or less amount of Hashi Cells were able to support 11 Sharingans and reduce KA cooldown from few years to few hours as it was seen in the case of Danzo.
    But someone can use the evidence of Minato enabling himself to consume half of the nine-tails chakra while near death?
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilOne View Post
    True, however I think Kishi wanted to show the difference between the chakra levels of a Senju and a non Senju.
    Perhaps ..... Senju are are supposed to be Stamina monsters and in all cases having an edge since birth will mean having an edge throughout the lifetime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalev View Post
    But someone can use the evidence of Minato enabling himself to consume half of the nine-tails chakra while near death?
    Pardon? ... I dont undertsand what u want to convey.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by Anorien16 View Post
    Perhaps ..... Senju are are supposed to be Stamina monsters and in all cases having an edge since birth will mean having an edge throughout the lifetime.



    Pardon? ... I dont undertsand what u want to convey.
    that Minato's chakra level might be on par with senju person?

    while he received the nine tails chakra, he was on the brink of dying anyways, so if he's fresh/ 100%

    would his chakra intake, would he be able to take all of the nine tails chakra? if he's fresh, maybe even around 75% of the nine tails chakra? [estimating]

    ...
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalev View Post
    that Minato's chakra level might be on par with senju person?

    while he received the nine tails chakra, he was on the brink of dying anyways, so if he's fresh/ 100%

    would his chakra intake, would he be able to take all of the nine tails chakra? if he's fresh, maybe even around 75% of the nine tails chakra? [estimating]

    ...
    Possibly yes, not to mention KCM clones are harder to make as observed from Naruto's case ..... Minato just needs to pop another clone to draw level with Tobirama and thus a High Tier Senju (Hashirama is God Tier) .... so he might be considered on par with a low/mid tier Senju ..... But we can just speculate, its impossible to reach conclusions.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    We all know Hashirama is stronger than Tobirama ....
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorien16 View Post
    Possibly yes, not to mention KCM clones are harder to make as observed from Naruto's case ..... Minato just needs to pop another clone to draw level with Tobirama and thus a High Tier Senju (Hashirama is God Tier) .... so he might be considered on par with a low/mid tier Senju ..... But we can just speculate, its impossible to reach conclusions.
    agreed, but i'm pretty sure someone with a high IQ in math can come into conclusion with a very accurate / educated guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by kladarakun View Post
    We all know Hashirama is stronger than Tobirama ....
    yeah, but by how much
     
         
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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalev View Post
    agreed, but i'm pretty sure someone with a high IQ in math can come into conclusion with a very accurate / educated guess

    wish i'm smart
    Perhaps Aim64C, Blaze or Derp can ..... but its more about patience and dedication.
     
         

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    Re: Hashirama and Tobirama Power Difference | 637 Reveals This

    Quote Originally Posted by Anorien16 View Post
    Perhaps Aim64C, Blaze or Derp can ..... but its more about patience and dedication.
    cool, i will ask, thanks
     
         

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