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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Put Minato a tier or 2above, Killer-Bee a little bit lower and i agree with your list
    Yay a Minato fanboy... just kidding
    He's perfect in this tier I would even put him 1 tier lower.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    Sorry bro, but Pain>Hashirama.. It's just a bad match up.. Do you want to debate this?
    Fvck yes i will debate against that (you may have to wait till monday for a real response, im running out of time atm)

    Quote Originally Posted by shyarkugan View Post
    Eh yes and no. Obito still had control of 7 biju even without edo jinchuriki via out path chakra chains. He can just mediate their power better with the edo jins added in.
    Regardless, the Obito (Rinnegan) in this list is considered Biju-less
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicAvenger View Post
    Fvck yes i will debate against that (you may have to wait till monday for a real response, im running out of time atm)
    No problem. VM me when you want.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Yes I consider that as a last resort, he was fighting for the shinobi world fate.
    In a vs. Thread its viable, He used Kamui Against Deidara without any sort of high stakes. Thats like me saying madara will just sit there and not use PS just because its a "last resort"

    If Kakashi see's that Kamui will help, He'll use it

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    No problem. VM me when you want.
    Someone is making a thread, I'll Give a short response there. On Monday i will continue the debate with you (possibly on another thread)

    I want to establish ground rules though. The Hashi im considering is one that can use all Mokuton thus far and has Byakuyou like Healing.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Yay a Minato fanboy... just kidding
    He's perfect in this tier I would even put him 1 tier lower.
    Your joking right? Minato is the god of this manga
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicAvenger View Post
    In a vs. Thread its viable, He used Kamui Against Deidara without any sort of high stakes. Thats like me saying madara will just sit there and not use PS just because its a "last resort"

    If Kakashi see's that Kamui will help, He'll use it



    Someone is making a thread, I'll Give a short response there. On Monday i will continue the debate with you (possibly on another thread)

    I want to establish ground rules though. The Hashi im considering is one that can use all Mokuton thus far and has Byakuyou like Healing.
    Yes he also used it a second time to save himself and his friends from the explosion, that was a last resort usage.
    Anyway , he'd need to use Kamui 6 times to get rid of Pain, and that is if he actually land it. Good luck.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Your joking right? Minato is the god of this manga
    Not really..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Yes he also used it a second time to save himself and his friends from the explosion, that was a last resort usage.
    Anyway , he'd need to use Kamui 6 times to get rid of Pain, and that is if he actually land it. Good luck.
    Not really. He simply needs to use Hachibi size kamui and all Pain are dead
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Yes he also used it a second time to save himself and his friends from the explosion, that was a last resort usage.
    Anyway , he'd need to use Kamui 6 times to get rid of Pain, and that is if he actually land it. Good luck.
    At Mid-Range He Countered Sasuke's Arrow. If Kakashi is near a path, They Can't Escape.

    And Wtf? im never even said Kakashi > Pain. Pain Just Doesn't destroy him like you make it out to be
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicAvenger View Post
    Regardless, the Obito (Rinnegan) in this list is considered Biju-less
    But why? When he takes Nagato's rinnegan he has 7 bijus collected in Gedo Mazo and Gedo Mazo is a rinnegan power and so are the chains. Ergo they are part of his rinnegan powers, so it seems redundant to me to remove his biju, but whatevs it's your list.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by shyarkugan View Post
    But why? When he takes Nagato's rinnegan he has 7 bijus collected in Gedo Mazo and Gedo Mazo is a rinnegan power and so are the chains. Ergo they are part of his rinnegan powers, so it seems redundant to me to remove his biju, but whatevs it's your list.
    It Was done on a whim. Nothing more
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Not really..
    The only character in this manga who always end his fights unscathed whether he fights a fodder or top tier = God
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Not really. He simply needs to use Hachibi size kamui and all Pain are dead
    That's not possible, sorry
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicAvenger View Post
    At Mid-Range He Countered Sasuke's Arrow. If Kakashi is near a path, They Can't Escape.

    And Wtf? im never even said Kakashi > Pain. Pain Just Doesn't destroy him like you make it out to be
    Then why did he?
    Kakashi lost against 2 Paths, now add 4 more. He gets fodderized, sorry.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Then why did he?
    Kakashi lost against 2 Paths, now add 4 more. He gets fodderized, sorry.
    1- Because he had no knowledge on Pain back then. Now he trained to counter Pain abilities
    2- Because current Kakashi is vastly stronger than the Kakashi you are talking about
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Then why did he?
    Kakashi lost against 2 Paths, now add 4 more. He gets fodderized, sorry.
    Do I have to spoon feed you everything?

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    Kakashi has made substantial progress since then. The fight would be very diffrent if it was done now with his power ups and PIS/CIS off (he would use Kamui as an attack now like he does against obito)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    1- Because he had no knowledge on Pain back then. Now he trained to counter Pain abilities
    2- Because current Kakashi is vastly stronger than the Kakashi you are talking about
    Why would he train to counter Pain now that he's dead? LOL.
    Yeah he's not that much stronger, I mean it's not like he got new abilities or anything, it won't make any difference, his chakra level is too low, Deva Path, Animal Path and Asura Path would be more than enough to defeat Kakashi
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Quote Originally Posted by PretaPath View Post
    Why would he train to counter Pain now that he's dead? LOL.
    Yeah he's not that much stronger, I mean it's not like he got new abilities or anything, it won't make any difference, his chakra level is too low, Deva Path, Animal Path and Asura Path would be more than enough to defeat Kakashi
    1- He did train to counter Pain abilities, said by Gai
    2- His chakra pool greatly improved and we can see it in this war when he was able to fight 2days swordsmen, Jinchurikis, Gedo Mazo, Obito, Madara, Juubi along with Gai, Naruto and Bee, spamming Raikiris(something like 10), Raiden(at least 2), Kage Bunshins, doton, kamuis(something like 8 times or more), when against Pain he could barely use one clone, few raikiris and 2kamuis. There is also a huge gap in terms of his ability to use kamui since now he can even warp huge Bijuus like Hachibi, teleport in and out his dimension, warp objects/people from Kamui dimension to our real world. There is a huge gap in power between the 2kakashis
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    you cant put people in god tier who are not gods
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

    Sakumo Demi-god and Tobirama high Kage?? What is this?

    Put Minato, Tobirama and Prime Hiruzen in God, because they beat all the tiers below God
     
         

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