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    Naruto's intelligence

    These past few chapters make it look as though Naruto's battle smarts in the war arc are much better than we give him credit for I mean he did:

    Save Sasuke and Minato from the Obito transformation

    Know Obito's intentions before the SA could figure it out.

    Looks like his battle smarts even exceed Sasuke by comparison as of late
     
         

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    No... heeelll no

     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by Nidds View Post
    These past few chapters make it look as though Naruto's battle smarts in the war arc are much better than we give him credit for I mean he did:

    Save Sasuke and Minato from the Obito transformation

    Know Obito's intentions before the SA could figure it out.

    Looks like his battle smarts even exceed Sasuke by comparison as of late
    Yes, he has steadily improved which has been shown throughout the war arc. Though the points you made do not help this argument. Keep in mind, it is not only Naruto now but also Kurama and his extensive knowledge..

    Bold: Sasuke has always shown more battle smarts than Naruto, now that Sasuke hasn't fought seriously for chapters among chapters, you came to the conclusion that Naruto exceeds Sasuke's combat smarts.

    Underlined: Point of even adding this to the thread?
     
         
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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Naruto is not generally smart, but that does not mean he's not intelligent

    Battle wise, Naruto rivals if not surpassed Shikamaru.

    General wise, he has a lot to learn
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    he always has had high battle smarts, at least tactics wise. observation wise he's been steadily improving, he's no shikamaru or kakashi or even sasuke, but he's getting there. he just gets underrated because he's a goofball.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    those aren't battle smarts those are the powers inherited from the other bijuu/jinchuriki..

    its like him being in sage mode and Pein absorbing the sage chakra.. naruto didn't do it on purpose, but the sage mode chakra was too much for pein.. so he turned to stone.. it wasn't naruto.. it was his power.. & pein did it to himself.

    naruto is smart & dumb at the same time.. like kabuto dsm.. he beats himself in battle somewhat..

    naruto is still a dumb@$$ but he could be smart sometimes.. his BODY & DNA & CHAKRA are geniuses .
     
         

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    oh by the way

    Juubi and bito's theme

     
         

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    I agree I was actually surprised he was able to tell that Obito wasn't going to use the Rinne tensei just by looking at the handseals, he's got to have some really good memory.

    Naruto's intelligence is always downplayed due to his childish antics when he actually gets serious he's actually really formidable. (But this is how all Shonen heroes are portrayed)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Naruto was incredibly smart in the battle with Kakuzu.. well he analyzed a weakened kakuzu by sending clones to fight him then he did it again with more clones as a diversion.

    naruto fought smart against:

    gaara
    teaming up against zabuza & haku
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    & he wasn't smart against anyone else. he just uses jutsu that beats his opponent.

    he went real dumb against Nagato. T_T

    SASUKE IS STILL SMARTER
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by foxyladyland View Post
    those aren't battle smarts those are the powers inherited from the other bijuu/jinchuriki..

    its like him being in sage mode and Pein absorbing the sage chakra.. naruto didn't do it on purpose, but the sage mode chakra was too much for pein.. so he turned to stone.. it wasn't naruto.. it was his power.. & pein did it to himself.

    naruto is smart & dumb at the same time.. like kabuto dsm.. he beats himself in battle somewhat..

    naruto is still a dumb@$$ but he could be smart sometimes.. his BODY & DNA & CHAKRA are geniuses .
    At least give him some credits, not choosing the dark side while most of his friends and team mates were getting killed by pain.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Uhh no!

    His intelligence has increased but not beyond Sasuke
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHokage View Post
    I agree I was actually surprised he was able to tell that Obito wasn't going to use the Rinne tensei just by looking at the handseals, he's got to have some really good memory.
    THAT is very nice , but he did FORGET Nagato's jutsu right after Nagato used it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by iNotorious View Post
    At least give him some credits, not choosing the dark side while most of his friends and team mates were getting killed by pain.
    that's nice, but that was always his choice kinda.. way before Pein.. He wants to be Hokage so the dark side isn't appealing.

    Also its just his personality. He shows smarts sometimes though
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Sasuke always will be smarter than him...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by foxyladyland View Post
    those aren't battle smarts those are the powers inherited from the other bijuu/jinchuriki..

    its like him being in sage mode and Pein absorbing the sage chakra.. naruto didn't do it on purpose, but the sage mode chakra was too much for pein.. so he turned to stone.. it wasn't naruto.. it was his power.. & pein did it to himself.

    naruto is smart & dumb at the same time.. like kabuto dsm.. he beats himself in battle somewhat..

    naruto is still a dumb@$$ but he could be smart sometimes.. his BODY & DNA & CHAKRA are geniuses .
    calling out the Naruto vs pain portion. Naruto did infact realize that if preta would possibly turn to stone
    if he absorbed his sage chakra, and so he gathered natural energy. that point you made was irrelevant!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by AllomnisymbolsparttwoT View Post
    No... heeelll no

    AHahahah! What's with that picture?! Ahahaha! And Naruto seems more clever and intelligent than Sasuke on some of the important things, like loyalty and how to lead your life and stuff. In that regard, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke (his heart is stronger I mean) but Im not sure he's smarter than Sasuke, you know? Like during the Deidara vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke was considering things and planning ahead in ways that Naruto probably wouldn't have.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by foxyladyland View Post
    Naruto was incredibly smart in the battle with Kakuzu.. well he analyzed a weakened kakuzu by sending clones to fight him then he did it again with more clones as a diversion.

    naruto fought smart against:

    gaara
    teaming up against zabuza & haku
    kiba
    kakuzu
    & he wasn't smart against anyone else. he just uses jutsu that beats his opponent.

    he went real dumb against Nagato. T_T

    SASUKE IS STILL SMARTER
    Actually you forgot a few people there.

    He fought smart against Pain, using Shadow clones and if it wasn't for Deva regaining it's powers he would have defeated all 3 remaining paths in one combination attack.

    He also battled intelligently against the Edo Kages...with Muu he used his chakra arm to surprise him no one was expecting it and with the 3rd Raikage he actually assessed the situation as while everyone was thinking the 3rd Raikage was unbeatable Naruto was the only one wondering how he got that scar on him and tried to formulate a plan. Say what you want that's actually pretty smart especially considering that someone like Temari was also there and she couldn't think of a strategy to beat him.

    When fighting Son Goku (Bijuu) he used the shadow clone to make the Bijuu throw up and he even formatted a strategy by knocking the rod out of the Bijuu.

    Naruto may not be the smartest person...but when it comes to battles he's a tactical genius as his plans are that unpredictable.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxyladyland View Post
    THAT is very nice , but he did FORGET Nagato's jutsu right after Nagato used it again.



    that's nice, but that was always his choice kinda.. way before Pein.. He wants to be Hokage so the dark side isn't appealing.

    Also its just his personality. He shows smarts sometimes though
    He is goofy most of the times but when things get serious, he is a smart, very smart.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    He's a good strategist but when it comes to general intelligence... Hmmm... He still needs to grow up....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Note I am not talking about general intelligence (otherwise Sasuke beats him handily) just battle smarts. Both have had their moments (sasuke against deidara and naruto against some of the war edo kages) and their moments of stupidity (naruto against pein and sasuke vs the kages at the summit).
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    yeah he added 2+2 and gets to be genius now? Any extensive plans he made?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Nah Sasuke doesn't have anything anymore in the "general intelligence" department.

    Storming into the kage summit, unsealing the hokages and giving Oro full control (worked out fine but oh god was that questionable) and last week just rolling up to Obito when Naruto told him to back the hell away.

    You ask me, both those ninja show pretty piss poor overall intelligence. But Naruto's battle intelligence (though not on par with Sasuke) is steadily getting much better. He's more aware of his surroundings and focusing on minute details other people look over.
     
         

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    Oh and there was no battle in latest case
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by jdubb View Post
    calling out the Naruto vs pain portion. Naruto did infact realize that if preta would possibly turn to stone
    if he absorbed his sage chakra, and so he gathered natural energy. that point you made was irrelevant!!!!!!
    yeah sure that was kinda smart I guess considering Jiraiya's Toad Pa told him everything regarding that ahead of time.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHokage View Post
    Actually you forgot a few people there.

    He fought smart against Pain, using Shadow clones and if it wasn't for Deva regaining it's powers he would have defeated all 3 remaining paths in one combination attack.

    He also battled intelligently against the Edo Kages...with Muu he used his chakra arm to surprise him no one was expecting it and with the 3rd Raikage he actually assessed the situation as while everyone was thinking the 3rd Raikage was unbeatable Naruto was the only one wondering how he got that scar on him and tried to formulate a plan. Say what you want that's actually pretty smart especially considering that someone like Temari was also there and she couldn't think of a strategy to beat him.

    When fighting Son Goku (Bijuu) he used the shadow clone to make the Bijuu throw up and he even formatted a strategy by knocking the rod out of the Bijuu.

    Naruto may not be the smartest person...but when it comes to battles he's a tactical genius as his plans are that unpredictable.
    ok I considered him fighting Pein pretty smart I suppose.. -__- but when It comes to him vs Raikage and Temari..
    Temari obviously would have been destroyed by the Edo Kage so she was worried and scared while Naruto has ALL THIS SUPERIOR CHAKRA and MANY CLONES he doesn't get scared and nervous like a regular shinobi would ..
    Even shikamaru was nervous in WAR , but quickly regained his composure to encourage his allies & teammates.
    Naruto being who is is with his power, has a lot more time on his hands. although shikamaru & temari can stand back and analyze things. Naruto can afford Taking Damage .. THEY CANT.
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    He is goofy most of the times but when things get serious, he is a smart, very smart.
    he has lots of clones to cause distractions , but yes he is not entirely stupid. .__.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosman View Post
    Nah Sasuke doesn't have anything anymore in the "general intelligence" department.

    Storming into the kage summit, unsealing the hokages and giving Oro full control (worked out fine but oh god was that questionable) and last week just rolling up to Obito when Naruto told him to back the hell away.

    You ask me, both those ninja show pretty piss poor overall intelligence. But Naruto's battle intelligence (though not on par with Sasuke) is steadily getting much better. He's more aware of his surroundings and focusing on minute details other people look over.
    Sasuke charging into the summit has nothing to do with his intelligence.. he was simply MAD & wanted to kill somebody.
    he was emotional. When it came down to fighting his TARGET , Danzo.. He was VERY SMART.

    ORO's revival.. SASUKE was called Dr. SNAKES by a fellow genius . plus Sasuke did extensive research on Orochimaru during his time with him and while contemplating overthrowing him. He noticed in the battle with Kabuto DSM & Itachi that Kabuto was almost a victim of Orochimaru's DNA and knew Orochimaru's DNA was incredible. It takes a toll.
    Itachi & kabuto proved it and used it against Kabuto. Sasuke regained his genius senses when he said his final goodbye to Itachi and decided to meet the Dead Hokage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto's intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by Nidds View Post
    These past few chapters make it look as though Naruto's battle smarts in the war arc are much better than we give him credit for I mean he did:

    Save Sasuke and Minato from the Obito transformation

    Know Obito's intentions before the SA could figure it out.

    Looks like his battle smarts even exceed Sasuke by comparison as of late
    Yup but I don't know why .
     
         

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    His intelligence is still below the average. It's somewhere between Guy's and Kiba's.
     
         

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