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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    This is nuts how can Sasuke still use Susanoo and he also got another power up. The Susanoo was upgraded again:confused: we may see it upgrade to a point where it is even bigger than the tailed beasts. And Sakura is just pathetic almost getting killed by a 99% blind Sasuke. She is the real burden I was cheering for Sasuke to kill her.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    My god, looks like only Sasuke and Naruto can grow up. I feel Sakura becomes just more and more weaker.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    My prediction is that Madara will show up in the next chapter and take sasuke with him. Then there will be time interval in which sasuke can attain the EMS (though it shud work as soon as sasuke gets itachi eyes but i have a feeling that there will be a period a month or so in which sasuke can have the full power; dont know how). Naruto will train further to fight sasuke after that and then there will be the final epic battle
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    Did Sasuke ever say why he wouldn't take Itachi's eyes? Kakashi took Obito's eye reverently and feels that it's Obito seeing for him. Sasuke should feel the same way.
    true but i think kishi made a mention about it when madara asked sskue to take itachi eyes saskue said he doesn't see the world the sameway so unlike kakashi and obitio i believe saskue knew itachi wanted peace so why use his eyes to do the opposite of what your brother wanted. just my guess.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    I Can Agree With The Points But Ever Since Sasuke's True Realization of Itachi, His Emotions are furnished even further with vengeance thus His Skill & Style are not depicted anymore but the Hell-Bent Avenger who Descends into the Darkness
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    5 out of 5 kishi, welldone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    When the blinded Sasuke grabbed Sakura and was about to kill her..
    Kakashi says this had to happened right after i used my Mangeky..
    He was already out of alot of chakra just by using one technique..
    If it wasn't for Naruto, Sakura would have died.. Naruto still got a scratch in his face..
    i highly doubt he is out of chakra from that. its just the after effects of the MS.
    you should have noticed by now that when someone uses it, it damn well hurts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    I think that was just Naruto's speed in Sage mode. It enhances his speed and strength by a magnitude.
    naruto wasnt in sage mode though, maybe he has just gotten faster

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto_Lee View Post
    oh the chapter was good........and huraay sasuke is going to be blind.............ha ha ha........but anyway in the next chapter madara will come for sure and take away sasuke and ask him to take itachi's eyes..............but after this arc,i can assure that saukra's annoying part will be over........................but what happens between naruto and sasuke......thats the question???????.........
    i think naruto is gonna pwn sasuke up kinda like your avatar lol a nice replacement in the making
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    This chapter is really great. But not that surprising. Based on the predictions you did guys, it almost took the whole chapter. I'm pretty amazed how naruto saved Sakura & those eyes of naruto, I think he's mad. How I wish Sage mode will appear again. Kakashi, please stay in there. It would be a LOOOOONG talk for sure, between these guys.

    @ Karin : Where's your B 0 0 0 0 B S? T_T
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    A good chapter, but not as epicly charged and full of twists as the last few. What happened in this chapter was pretty much expected, and I see it as a building block for later chapters to be absolutely insane.

    I quite liked the Naruto flashbacks. I think we saw a little more of Itachi and Naruto's conversation than we had seen previously. Kinda funny how everyone has been telling him the same things and he's only just realized it.

    Like I predicted last chapter, Naruto had an epic last page arrival on the scene. And of course...he saved Sakura. Just like Kakashi saved her last chapter. I know she is dealing with a lot, and it can't be easy for her to fight the man she loves like this, but come on, a bit of female pride would be nice. She was so close too!

    I liked the Sakura/Karin interaction in this chapter too. I knew Karin was an awesome character!

    I had hoped the Sasuke/Kakashi battle would be a bit more intense, but I pretty much expected it wouldn't last long. The reunion of the entirety of Team 7 was far more important. I can't wait to see what Naruto decides...I think, based on what others have said to him, the shattering of Team 7's picture in his mind during his convo with Gaara, and the fact he just saved Sakura from being killed by Sasuke, he will decide that Sasuke can no longer be saved without death. I hope anyway. Otherwise he might really be an idiot.

    I'm sad there wasn't a Yamato moment in this chapter. I want to see his reaction when he discovers that Naruto tricked him. I can hardly believe that Naruto made it all the way to the battle without Yamato coming after him. Isn't Yamato supposed to be an ANBU captain? I guess he's got his weak points.

    Anyway, next chapter: Hopefully, a decision from Naruto, though it may not be so simple. A full fledged Team 7 reunion, with tears, fighting, blind Sasuke, etc. Probably be some long-winded discussion. Either in this chapter, or soon after, Itachi's gift to Naruto will be revealed. Sasuke will probably be saved by Madara or Zetsu or some other rando. And we can't forget about Karin.

    Question: Has everything Itachi said to Sasuke been revealed? I know that he said the whole "This is the last time, Sasuke" deal, but wasn't there something else, that showed he was saying something, but didn't reveal everything? I can't remember.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    has anyone noticed sasuke's susano'o during his talk about itachi? (didn't read all posts sorry). His Susano'o looked just like itachi's. Was this just for show, because he was talking about itachi, or was it for real? Like there is another upgrade for the susano'o to become itachi's one with the special sword and shield. Or he would get that susano'o when he takes itachi's eyes (what he will surely do now)

    furthermore: in the flashback of Naruto, itachi says something about sasuke feelings or such are blank, anyone can fill them up. This kinda confirms madara using sasuke as a doll, not like all sasuke fanboys say: SASUKE ISNT BEING CONTROLLED HES USING MADARA. What in my opinion is bullcrap, because he believes every single thing madara says.

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    true but i think kishi made a mention about it when madara asked sskue to take itachi eyes saskue said he doesn't see the world the sameway so unlike kakashi and obitio i believe saskue knew itachi wanted peace so why use his eyes to do the opposite of what your brother wanted. just my guess.
    hi, i'm sorry but don't completly agree with you. Yes itachi wanted peace, but he wanted peace for his brother, not to himself, and then if sasuke knew that itachi wanted peace he wouldn't go after revenge. When he killed danzo he said that's one down nii-saan, he was proud of himself and he wanted iachi to recognize that, so i think that if that's the point sasuke could accept his brother's eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Stylo View Post
    has anyone noticed sasuke's susano'o during his talk about itachi? (didn't read all posts sorry). His Susano'o looked just like itachi's. Was this just for show, because he was talking about itachi, or was it for real? Like there is another upgrade for the susano'o to become itachi's one with the special sword and shield. Or he would get that susano'o when he takes itachi's eyes (what he will surely do now)

    furthermore: in the flashback of Naruto, itachi says something about sasuke feelings or such are blank, anyone can fill them up. This kinda confirms madara using sasuke as a doll, not like all sasuke fanboys say: SASUKE ISNT BEING CONTROLLED HES USING MADARA. What in my opinion is bullcrap, because he believes every single thing madara says.

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    Yes, sasuke was able to broke another seal with his rage, i'm not sure if that's the ultimate susanoo or if exists more than that. And yes sasuke was always controlled by madara, who doesn't think that way or it's blind or it isn't thinking clearly. sasuke on the beggining was all like you're a liar i don't trust you but he did everything madara told him to do. Madara even told zetsu that sasuke was plan b if pain died. sasuke tries to be tuff by saying i'm not your partner you don't give me orders but then he does what madar told him lol.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by a thousand years of death View Post
    naruto wasnt in sage mode though, maybe he has just gotten faster
    yes, he could've just gotten faster but i was thinking that maybe he saved sakura while in sage mode but dropped out of sage mode before looking at sasuke in order to hide it from him. naruto was definitely traveling in sage mode to the fight so while in sage mode he'd know certain things about the currant situation. he'd know who's over there by their chakra and he'd know how low sasuke's chakra is. i think naruto has learned not to play all his cards in the first hand if he doesn't have to. knowing that sakura and kakashi are there and knowing that sasuke is running low he wouldn't have to show sage mode to sasuke just yet. why bring out the big guns right away when you can save them for a surprise later?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    Naruto : Why you're doing this,SASUKE??

    Sasuke : You never had siblings.. You don't understand.. Itachi gave his life for your sake and the others.. You all must pay..

    Naruto : you are not like that Sasuke.. I know you..

    Sasuke : you don't know me...

    Naruto : I thought i did.. I know your tastes and your favourite color..

    Sasuke : That's not enough to make me happy.. Plus i'm blind now and can't see colors anymore..

    Naruto : i'll be your eyes my dear.. Just don't leave me anymore

    Naruto : 4 years without you were an hell for me.. I had to use my right hand so many times thinking about you..

    Sasuke : yeah i guess.. Too bad for you.. I just want to kill you and the others

    Sasuke : all of you ruined Itachi's life and my life..

    Naruto : Don't be mean to me (Naruto starts to cry and breed heavily)

    Sasuke : You gonna cry Naruto?? ( Sasuke laughing)

    Naruto : you are just being mean.. I'm suffering here..

    (Karin appears)

    Karin : Kill that piece of crap Naruto.. He almost kill me after i was ready to suck his balls.. I loved him as much you do Naruto

    Karin : He does not deserve love..

    (Naruto's crying out loud)

    Sakura : Don't kill him Naruto.. I still love him..

    (Tobi appears)

    Tobi : Hello

    Kakashi : This is bad

    Tobi : It's time for us to go Sasuke

    Sasuke : Ok.. But i'll be back with some huge glasses to see you better and i'm gonna be more hateful and angered then ever.. And i'll destroy the leaf.. Because you're all killed my true love..

    Sasuke : Yeah guys.. That's right. Itachi was my true love, we used to pratice incest as childs.. I never forgot him..

    Naruto : Madara Stop.. Don't take my love away from me again.. (Naruto yells)

    Sasuke : Go away.. I'll never make love with you.. You are weird and have an animal inside you.. YOU FREAK

    Madara : Let's go

    (Madara and Sasuke disappear)

    Naruto : SASUKE.. I LOVE YOU

    ( Naruto hyperventilates to death )

    End of the Manga in the next chapter..

    Naruto dies from Hyperventilation and sadness

    Karin and Sakura make a suicide pact and both suicide by falling off a huge mountain. Reason was because Sasuke disappeared again..

    Kakashi is now the owner of the biggest masks store in the leaf..

    Sasuke stays alive somewhere blind and in anger management..


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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    what itachi gave naruto could be that no techniques used from itachi's eye's will work on naruto. so when sasuke gets the EMS he will be super powerful(the most powerful character in the manga) but will be powerless against naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Awesome chapter! After looking at how fast Sasuke's vision is deteriorating and how much stronger Susano is getting it is only a matter of time before Sasuke will need a second set of eyes in order to keep his vision. Probably Madara will talk Sasuke into it and transplant them into Sasuke, finally completing him and giving him a new edge in future fights.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Cool chapter, maybe the reason for Naruto not being in Sage mode is because he'll use Itachi's power which was given to him to stop Sasuke in some way.

    The last page 5*, just looking at Sasuke and Naruto's eyes staring each other was epic.

    Can't wait for next chap.

    P.S. Kakashi should've told Sasuke that his sharingan was given to him from a long distant friend who died... ****ing scrub talkin' nonsense to Kakashi as if he knows everything.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    Naruto : Why you're doing this,SASUKE??

    Sasuke : You never had siblings.. You don't understand.. Itachi gave his life for your sake and the others.. You all must pay..

    Naruto : you are not like that Sasuke.. I know you..

    Sasuke : you don't know me...

    Naruto : I thought i did.. I know your tastes and your favourite color..

    Sasuke : That's not enough to make me happy.. Plus i'm blind now and can't see colors anymore..

    Naruto : i'll be your eyes my dear.. Just don't leave me anymore

    Naruto : 4 years without you were an hell for me.. I had to use my right hand so many times thinking about you..

    Sasuke : yeah i guess.. Too bad for you.. I just want to kill you and the others

    Sasuke : all of you ruined Itachi's life and my life..

    Naruto : Don't be mean to me (Naruto starts to cry and breed heavily)

    Sasuke : You gonna cry Naruto?? ( Sasuke laughing)

    Naruto : you are just being mean.. I'm suffering here..

    (Karin appears)

    Karin : Kill that piece of crap Naruto.. He almost kill me after i was ready to suck his balls.. I loved him as much you do Naruto

    Karin : He does not deserve love..

    (Naruto's crying out loud)

    Sakura : Don't kill him Naruto.. I still love him..

    (Tobi appears)

    Tobi : Hello

    Kakashi : This is bad

    Tobi : It's time for us to go Sasuke

    Sasuke : Ok.. But i'll be back with some huge glasses to see you better and i'm gonna be more hateful and angered then ever.. And i'll destroy the leaf.. Because you're all killed my true love..

    Sasuke : Yeah guys.. That's right. Itachi was my true love, we used to pratice incest as childs.. I never forgot him..

    Naruto : Madara Stop.. Don't take my love away from me again.. (Naruto yells)

    Sasuke : Go away.. I'll never make love with you.. You are weird and have an animal inside you.. YOU FREAK

    Madara : Let's go

    (Madara and Sasuke disappear)

    Naruto : SASUKE.. I LOVE YOU

    ( Naruto hyperventilates to death )

    End of the Manga in the next chapter..

    Naruto dies from Hyperventilation and sadness

    Karin and Sakura make a suicide pact and both suicide by falling off a huge mountain. Reason was because Sasuke disappeared again..

    Kakashi is now the owner of the biggest masks store in the leaf..

    Sasuke stays alive somewhere blind and in anger management..
    Looool, awesome prediction, nice work.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    AWESOME Chapter. I'll give it a 5. I deem that this could be the denouement--up to a few succeeding chapters. And BAM, finally the climactic, epic part! :D

    At last, this is getting a bit more realistic...Sasuke is gone blind (say, 99.9999999% blind)!

    ...well, except that Sasuke has gotten another powerup [again, as already expected] before totally losing it.

    WTH's with Sasuke's Susanoo?

    http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/000...0289512/09.jpg

    It looks to me like some shark-like figure coating the Susanoo.

    Anyway, I'd love that Naruto finally arrives! Too sad, Kakashi's chakra is still drained by Kamui. Nevertheless, it's one of the best MS techs in the manga! How I wish Kakashi would be made stronger...

    As for Sakura, what's new? Again, her arse is saved. Her jutsu skills never improved, IMO. It's pretty much still comparable (or worse, inferior) to Sasuke at a genin level. The only useful thing she does is to just stay in the background [and go to the kitchen lol]. On a serious note, her medical ninjutsu's the only thing in the works. PFF! I think Kishi's downplaying kunoichis.

    I can't wait for the nex chapter *adrenaline rushes*!!!

    Though, it'd appear like some gayish exchange of spouts by Naruto and Sasuke dominating the pages. I'm guessing Madara will appear amid the battle. He needs to save the poor blind EMO madman from his former teammates.

    OTOH, I'm liking that Sasuke's gone mad. At least, it'd kind of affect on how he thinks amidst the battle in an adverse way. :D

    Seems like Sasuke has no choice but to replace his badly damaged peepers, and of course, attain EMS. Uh-oh!

    Maybe, by the time he gets the EMS and hence the epic battle begins, Naruto will show a flashy jutsu given by Itachi.

    Another maybe, he may show it too soon! :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    This is nuts how can Sasuke still use Susanoo and he also got another power up. The Susanoo was upgraded again:confused: we may see it upgrade to a point where it is even bigger than the tailed beasts. And Sakura is just pathetic almost getting killed by a 99% blind Sasuke. She is the real burden I was cheering for Sasuke to kill her.
    IKR! Oh well, I'm half-expecting it. He's been gaining tons of powerups lately amidst battles. OTOH, good thing he finally got past the demarcation line, as he's blind already.

    Well, I'm dying to see Sakura dead, too. lolol But maybe Kishi's gonna pull off something that will make her useful in the later chapters. I'm more than dying to see that! Perhaps, we can see it during the climactic part of the series! But, all I can do for now is to wonder, wish and assume...

    Quote Originally Posted by hugocruzz View Post
    hi, i'm sorry but don't completly agree with you. Yes itachi wanted peace, but he wanted peace for his brother, not to himself, and then if sasuke knew that itachi wanted peace he wouldn't go after revenge. When he killed danzo he said that's one down nii-saan, he was proud of himself and he wanted iachi to recognize that, so i think that if that's the point sasuke could accept his brother's eyes.
    All I know is Itachi's more of a pacifist. Itachi wanted peace in GENERAL, particularly in his village. He throve amidst witnessing the third great shinobi war, which really molded such personality. And, as we all know, Itachi's allegiance to Konoha is unbreakable Even when he joined the Akatsuki, he's still thinking about the safety of the village. That's why Madara couldn't touch Konoha when he was still alive coz he forbid so. Yet more than anything, the most important person for him [insert incest here. lolol] is his younger brother, Sasuke.

    Sasuke couldn't accept the eyes then, coz he wanted to start a WAR. He doesn't want to let Konoha go unscathed. He want the village destroyed. And, this pretty much against Itachi's dogma. I believe that's what Sasuke meant by saying they share different visions.

    Nevertheless, Sasuke has no choice but to get a new pair of eyes, more likely Itachi's. Sasuke is soo mad and corrupted with vengeance and rancor right now that I don't think he would still mind about them having "opposing visions". Sasuke is in berserk mode, and come the epic battle, Naruto will tame and pwn him face flat!
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by zagubus View Post
    yes, he could've just gotten faster but i was thinking that maybe he saved sakura while in sage mode but dropped out of sage mode before looking at sasuke in order to hide it from him. naruto was definitely traveling in sage mode to the fight so while in sage mode he'd know certain things about the currant situation. he'd know who's over there by their chakra and he'd know how low sasuke's chakra is. i think naruto has learned not to play all his cards in the first hand if he doesn't have to. knowing that sakura and kakashi are there and knowing that sasuke is running low he wouldn't have to show sage mode to sasuke just yet. why bring out the big guns right away when you can save them for a surprise later?
    Yes, i remember when sasuke used to keep some secrets in battle to surprise later, he used to do that when he was on konoha and with orochimaru but now he is just stupid, that's why he is almost blind, itachi rarely used ms, sasuke sees anyone, and says: I HATE YOU, MS, SUSANOO. this is just stupid, he could be a better ninja if wouldn't be so stupid.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Awsome chapter!

    I dont think Madara will save sasuke esecially since sasuke said they're not allies right before madara left. I think sasuke is going to steal kakashi's eye a get a EMS that way.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 484 Discussion and 485 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by God Realm View Post
    Awsome chapter!

    I dont think Madara will save sasuke esecially since sasuke said they're not allies right before madara left. I think sasuke is going to steal kakashi's eye a get a EMS that way.
    i'm sorry but that's not a reasonable idea. first madara is using sasuke, so he doesn't care for what sasuke says, he just want sasuke to do what he wants, and for that he doesn't want him dead. why would he save sasuke from the kage meeting and now live him there. the only reason for madar not to show is if he doesn't know sasuke's condition. and second how do you think that sasuke can steal kakashi's eye? that's insane. for him to do that he has to kill naruto sakura and kakashi, how can he do that if he is almost blind? do you think that taking a eye from a person is like stealing a wallet? lol.
     
         

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    i liked this chapter a lot and i think Sakura coulda done better and actually faced her fears and be strong. nonetheless, she's still one of my fav characters so she passes. as for karin, i felt bad for her seeing as how she was suffering along with Sakura and when she cried bc sakura was crying. that was a touching scene imo. the naruto entrance was beast tho :B
     
         

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    ...that was so gangsta
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura View Post
    Kishi is writting like a retard for Sasuke..

    He does Sasuke look like a genius (intelect), thinking like Shikamaru pretty much against Deidara and also some awesome strategies against Itachi.
    Then he puts him battling like a meat-head against KillerBee & the Kages..
    He finally thinks a little bit against Danz despite the exagerated Mangeky over-use..
    And once again he goes all out against Kakashi.. Sure Susano'o pretty much would end Kakashi but as we saw consequences were showed..

    Sasuke = Blind

    Really bad writting from Kishimoto at some points and lack of consistency..
    He's obviously tired of wriiting and Drawing the series and he's rushing to the end at a fast pace.. Pretty much what happened to Akira Toryama..

    think of it like this...
    He acted like a genius in front of those he considered highly intelligent so as to throw them off. Those were going to act with consistency and strategy, unlike persons such as Killerbee, who attacked in complete randomness, so Sasuke had to act accordingly, a strategy was not going to work on randomness. It would be like trying to count cards in order to win the lottery.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricotyrone View Post
    think of it like this...
    He acted like a genius in front of those he considered highly intelligent so as to throw them off. Those were going to act with consistency and strategy, unlike persons such as Killerbee, who attacked in complete randomness, so Sasuke had to act accordingly, a strategy was not going to work on randomness. It would be like trying to count cards in order to win the lottery.
    i agree with you for the most part, but i do believe sasuke's madman/gotta kill everyone - mentality is playin a major part in his recklessness.

    i also believe (dont hate me sasuke haters lol) that sasuke is still savable and will be saved. this manga/anime is based on naruto and his ideals. naruto has been proving everyone wrong since day 1. everyone believe that sasuke is unsavable except for naruto, its only logical that sasuke will be saved. but i doubt he'll just stroll back to konoha and eat ramen wit naruto reminiscing abt the good ol days lol Kishi is either gonna kill sasuke (with sasuke dying 'honorably' somehow) or he's just gonna chnge his ways, but being how everyone hates him, he will never return to konoha and forever be a rehabilitated rogue ninja.

    just my opinion tho
     
         

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