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    the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again



    Same starting hand seal obitos hair turns white and madaras cracks were disappearing so this was a last minute change by kishi or his editor told him he can't just kill off what was the main villain for so long like that. Everything points towards last minute change of plans
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    if this is real, then goddamn... this was a bad mess up.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    I know right I saw a thread like this a couple days ago.

    Either Kishi has a bad memory or he's just to lazy to look back on it.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    This just shows that obito was using rinne tensei at first causing madara to revive slowly but I assume that because obito didn't make the other hand seal the rinne tensei wasn't finished and obito changed the purpose of the hand sign
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    This is exactly like the Minato Hokage Mountain during Obito Flashback
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Quote Originally Posted by hixa kuogame View Post
    This just shows that obito was using rinne tensei at first causing madara to revive slowly but I assume that because obito didn't make the other hand seal the rinne tensei wasn't finished and obito changed the purpose of the hand sign
    Then he was using an entirely different jutsu then and according to Naruto he wasn't even doing rinnetensei.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Actually if you look back Nagato used 2 different hand seals, the first like Obito then the second that Naruto says was different, Obito only uses one hand seal thru the whole Jutsu, and with Nagato the jutsu didn't start until his 2nd hand seal was formed.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Do you know Kishi......if so congrats....if not......you owe a 1000 word essay for your accusation
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Quote Originally Posted by LORD TAPATIO View Post
    Do you know Kishi......if so congrats....if not......you owe a 1000 word essay for your accusation
    it was a guess this has even happened to akira when his editor made him change villains during the android saga ( which that has been confirmed) who's to say kishi really intended to end obito there but his editor told him he can't, and i'm going of that the seals were similar and the cracks along with the hair points towards the jutsu was working.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Now Madara's Aura has more sense.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Quote Originally Posted by -Haku Yuki- View Post
    Then he was using an entirely different jutsu then and according to Naruto he wasn't even doing rinnetensei.
    Im guessing narutos comment was mistranslated because he saw both hand signs and how rinne tensei worked
     
         
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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    It wasn't last minute change Kishi planned to have Madara attempt to make Obito use Rinne, hence the start of the jutsu, then Obito gained control of his body and switched jutsu. That was always the plan.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    There are only 12 hand seals. More than one jutsu will begin with the sheep hand seal.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again



    This is the hand sign that starts Rinne Tensei



    This finishes it
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Quote Originally Posted by -Haku Yuki- View Post
    it was a guess this has even happened to akira when his editor made him change villains during the android saga ( which that has been confirmed) who's to say kishi really intended to end obito there but his editor told him he can't, and i'm going of that the seals were similar and the cracks along with the hair points towards the jutsu was working.
    How and why would an editor do that? Isn't the Manga the creators?
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Kind of owners.

    Actually, if u sign to do a let´s say 400 issue title, u get all applause and fans,and at a certain point u kinda feeling really artistic, like pulling out your manga at number 378, u can be sued. So, if an editor advices on how to get to an ending, suggestions can be followed
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

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    How and why would an editor do that? Isn't the Manga the creators?
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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    ahh kishi already has the ending planed out and this arc.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    that was the first hand seal but then nagato did ''snake'' obito remain still so that means it was not ****ed up.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    well then what is this?
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    And I was thinking the signs look alike.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    Don't think so, even I thought it was obvious from Minato's reaction on 636 that he was going to intervene when obito was being controlled.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    i bet you i can disprove your thread with one picture......




    that hand seal you are seeing, the FIRST ONE nagato did(the only one obito did) is a universal hand seal. Its been used since part 1. It is usually used when building up chakra



    Kishi does not usually make mistakes on his dialogue, and flashbacks. He makes mistakes like giveing bee a konoha headband, etc. Small stuff.

    And enough with the kishis asspulls.....this stuff has been forshadowed.....for example, elder toad asked told naruto about who he would fight(young man with eyes), and ended saying "do you know WHAT he is?" Obit being in his 30s is indeed a young man, and now he has a what to go with it....Juubi jinchuuriki.(or anti sage).

    If you study jap mythology, then you wouldve known that iznami and izanagi are related. So when one was shown, we knew we would see the other.


    Im not gonna go on anymore, but kishi doesnt really do asspulls. The closest thing to it was sakura getting the diamond mark, and it had a medeocre explanation. But naruto got sage mode sasuke got his sword, sakura was bound to get something other than super strength.
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

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    This is the hand sign that starts Rinne Tensei



    This finishes it
    the hand sign used to start rinnetensei, is also used in many other techniques.

    That said, i think obitos hair turned white because he was indeed starting to rinne tensei madara(as hand seals are just used to help focus chakra.... a perfect shinobi would not have to use any handseals, but the chakra control to do that would be more massive than any ninja known)

    but his hair turned white from the stress of resisting madara, and thus he instead became juubi jin.

    naruto realized it wasnt rinne tensei when obito didnt use the second hand seal

    (also im pretty sure the first hand seal is just a common one to accumulate and focus chakra)
     
         

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    Re: the hand seals do match kishis asspulls again

    What you say may be true but think it in this way: let's say that Obito was using rinnei tensei and that's why Madara was slowly coming back to life. After Obito was attacked by Minato, Madara stopped controlling him because he thought that he was dead. Maybe at that moment he used the real formula. Just Kishi used the wrog way to show it but what I say is plausible.
     
         

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