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    For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    these people are starting to make me mad about SO6P was an uzumaki and hyuga despite the manga canonically stated that he was uchiha and senju as shown in here:




    he was senju+uchiha. where do people like Sir Derp Obito or Crystal Chakra get their ideas from despite the manga proves them wrong.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    senju + uchiha........nice.....
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    S06P being Uzumaki is actually very plausible especially after you read Derp's theory but I don't think he's Hyuga or even half Hyuga
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Uzumaki's are also descendants of the Senju, but they are more connected to the Sage through their sealing techniques ( the Ten-Tails event. )
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    I personally believe that the Sage was actually from the Hoshigaki lineage; Life began from the sea muh brotha!
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiStillSolos View Post
    S06P being Uzumaki is actually very plausible especially after you read Derp's theory but I don't think he's Hyuga or even half Hyuga
    its not a correct theory when the manga says he is senju and uchiha. i read his theory it was good but the manga disagrees.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAncientCenturion View Post
    I personally believe that the Sage was actually from the Hoshigaki lineage; Life began from the sea muh brotha!
    Ha. .......
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by HatakoUracha View Post

    the manga states otherwise.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheAncientCenturion View Post
    I personally believe that the Sage was actually from the Hoshigaki lineage; Life began from the sea muh brotha!
    you kidding right?
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by Dribbles View Post
    Uzumaki's are also descendants of the Senju, but they are more connected to the Sage through their sealing techniques ( the Ten-Tails event. )
    Nicely said

    PS: What anime is that in your sig?
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    All you are fools, because the Rikudou sennin is a Kai:

     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by HatakoUracha View Post
    Ha. .......
    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    the manga states otherwise.




    you kidding right?
    We know for a fact that all life evolved from some marine environment, and that all land dwelling creatures bar those nasty crustaceans, and their relatives, came from fish.

    Kisame is a fish.

    Naturally there is a connection there! Like it or not, the Hoshigaki clan could very well be the predecessors to the Sage!
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    You really need to read between the lines, bro.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Ninpou Kuchiyose no Jutsu: Sir Derp Obito!

     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    these people are starting to make me mad about SO6P was an uzumaki and hyuga despite the manga canonically stated that he was uchiha and senju as shown in here:




    he was senju+uchiha. where do people like Sir Derp Obito or Crystal Chakra get their ideas from despite the manga proves them wrong.

    Whether the Sage was fully an Uzumaki or not is still left to be determined. I am under the belief that he was, but that is only an opinion. But to accept the "Senju+Uchiha=Sage and the Uzumaki were just descendants of the Senju" paradigm is just absurd.

    It was also canonically stated that Tobi was Madara.

    It was also canonically stated that Itachi slaughtered his clan to measure his "vessel" and that he was in fact, evil.

    It was canonically stated that the Kyuubi was amassed by feeding off peoples fear or hatred

    It was also canonically stated that there were only 9 Bijuu

    "Artists use lies to tell the truth." What Kishi has done this entire story is lie to us about something, then slowly began to tell the truth. It is a staple in any debatable story. The Uzumaki symbols and influences have been sprinkled throughout the series very carefully and as a reader we can choose to see them or ignore them. The Uzumaki are not just a tangent family of the Senju. I'm not gonna list all the reason why I believe this because there are numerous theories out there that are very well constructed and really can't be debated with anything but, "Tobi said so in that chapter." I advise you to read and comprehend them..
     
         
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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    I agree.
    I have no idea why people keep saying he's Uzumaki as if was stated in the manga.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Maybe, maybe not. There is a difference between the manga stating something and a character from the manga stating something.

    What you guys fail to understand and comprehend is that we're being given information from a character's perspective..

    Unless it is stated from a third person pov in the manga as a fact, I'd say nothing is proven yet.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    The sage is from the HATAKE clan
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    He's not even senju and uchiha he's the older son and younger son
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    its not a correct theory when the manga says he is senju and uchiha. i read his theory it was good but the manga disagrees.
    The problem is that both the Senju and Uchiha come from the Sage. The sage does not equal Senju+Uchiha.

    The logic for that does not follow. The Sage was something else.

    From a logical standpoint - the 'facts' we are given are either heavily distorted by history or have been altered in translation (or Kishimoto just doesn't know what the hell he's doing). "What lies beyond the Sharingan is the Rinnegan" makes no sense - as the Sharingan first appeared with the Uchiha line that spawned from the Sage. The Rinnegan, thus, comes from something more than mere genetics or "evolutions of the Sharingan."
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    I dont think hes an uzumaki either, or from any other clan for that matter.
    When i say clan i refer to shinobi clans, as these clearly developed after the sage had founded the ninjutsu techs that shinobi would use.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    ,lik WTF?
    sage was not senju + uchiha. .these two are his powers not the clan itself. .he divided his powers to create stability . .it's unknown from which he came from . .maybe uzumaki . .or maybe not. .

    senju and uchiha has nothing to do with sage's origin . .that was sage's decision to divide his power . .thats all
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    Senju (Yin chakra on the juubi) & Uchiha (Yang chakra of the juubi) were a result of the sage after he became the juubi's jinchuuriki. Rikudou isnt senju + uchiha because those clans didnt even exist back then. The senju+uchiha were a creation of the rikudou + the juubi.

    There is nothing in the manga that contradicts the otherwise flawless theory of rikudou being an uzumaki, it is a logical certainty.
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    senju + uchiha...... sounds good
     
         

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    Re: For The Last Time, SO6P Was Not Uzumaki Nor Hyuga

    He only became Uchiha+Senju when he became the Jūbi's Jinchūriki, the Uchiha is the Yin of the Jūbi while Senju is the Yang of the Jūbi, prior to that, Rikūdo was an Uzumaki

    Uzumaki(Rikūdo) + Jūbi = Uchiha (Yin) and Senju (Yang)
     
         
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