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    A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    There are many possibilities when considering any character's arsenal & I'm going to present my views about it.

    1.1) gift from other character.
    eg: obito->kakashi(eye), itachi-> sasuke, madara->nagato(rinnegan)shisui->itachi(eye)
    If the gift is a special/unique organ,or something the receiver cannot ever attain, then that should not be considered in the arsenal of the receiver.
    However, if the gift is a powerup, then it can be considered,as its equivalent to learning the jutsu.However, it should be confirmed that the receiver was capable of learning the jutsu by any other means too.
    1.2) Jinchuriki
    Its a tough call on this one.Firstly, its a simple powerup, & quite unfair as its not something the receiver has attained, however, not everyone can become the jinchuriki, so its a 50-50 thing.So my logic says that if the ninja(in his prime) is capable of defeating the tailed beast on his own, then he has the right to consider the beast in his arsenal.

    2) edo ninjas
    pretty evident that edos seem stronger sometimes than their living form. so I believe that for these ninjas, either their prime state, or their state during death should be considered. However,it should be noted that jutsus performed by them in edo state, ALWAYS belong to their arsenal. Infinite chakra of edos can only increase the frequency of the jutsu. many people believe that a jutsu done by a ninja can only be done in edo state.....thats wrong, because if he knew that jutsu, he must've performed it earlier in living state.
    special case: minato-> the KCM belonging to minato was obtained by him before his death, so it will belong to his arsenal, and not in just his edo state.

    3) using body cells
    eg: madara, oruchimaru, kabuto, obito,danzo
    in oruchimaru,madara & kabuto's case, it can be considered as they used their own skill/knowledge to obtain them.whereas for obito, it was madara who implanted into him, or for danzo, oruchimaru did it, so its not acceptable.

    4) Jutsus requiring preparation
    Although they can be considered in one's arsenal, they shouldnt be considered in VS threads or while forming the top 10 list. for eg: edo tensei

    On this basis, my top 10(not in order,but in levels):
    level 1: hashirama,madara,itachi,minato
    level 2: tobirama,hiruzen,oruchimaru
    level 3: shisui,kabuto,hanzo

    What'd you Think ??
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    Hanzo does not belong in top 10 .___.
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    Good list and nice thread
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    Edo shouldn't be counted in top 10's, like how you wouldn't count a summon. And where the hell is Nagato in the OP?
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by wildstorm View Post
    There are many possibilities when considering any character's arsenal & I'm going to present my views about it.

    1.1) gift from other character.
    eg: obito->kakashi(eye), itachi-> sasuke, madara->nagato(rinnegan)shisui->itachi(eye)
    If the gift is a special/unique organ,or something the receiver cannot ever attain, then that should not be considered in the arsenal of the receiver.
    However, if the gift is a powerup, then it can be considered,as its equivalent to learning the jutsu.However, it should be confirmed that the receiver was capable of learning the jutsu by any other means too.
    1.2) Jinchuriki
    Its a tough call on this one.Firstly, its a simple powerup, & quite unfair as its not something the receiver has attained, however, not everyone can become the jinchuriki, so its a 50-50 thing.So my logic says that if the ninja(in his prime) is capable of defeating the tailed beast on his own, then he has the right to consider the beast in his arsenal.

    2) edo ninjas
    pretty evident that edos seem stronger sometimes than their living form. so I believe that for these ninjas, either their prime state, or their state during death should be considered. However,it should be noted that jutsus performed by them in edo state, ALWAYS belong to their arsenal. Infinite chakra of edos can only increase the frequency of the jutsu. many people believe that a jutsu done by a ninja can only be done in edo state.....thats wrong, because if he knew that jutsu, he must've performed it earlier in living state.
    special case: minato-> the KCM belonging to minato was obtained by him before his death, so it will belong to his arsenal, and not in just his edo state.

    3) using body cells
    eg: madara, oruchimaru, kabuto, obito,danzo
    in oruchimaru,madara & kabuto's case, it can be considered as they used their own skill/knowledge to obtain them.whereas for obito, it was madara who implanted into him, or for danzo, oruchimaru did it, so its not acceptable.

    4) Jutsus requiring preparation
    Although they can be considered in one's arsenal, they shouldnt be considered in VS threads or while forming the top 10 list. for eg: edo tensei

    On this basis, my top 10(not in order,but in levels):
    level 1: hashirama,madara,itachi,minato
    level 2: tobirama,hiruzen,oruchimaru
    level 3: shisui,kabuto,hanzo

    What'd you Think ??
    It should be like this......
    Lvl 1:Hashirama,Madara and MInato
    Lvl2:ITachi,Tobirama,SM Naruto(NO Kyubi) and MS Sasuke(No gifts)
    Level3ro,Jiraya etc

    Kabuto can't make it in top 10 without gifts....................
    Hanzo is a fodder compared to any of current Sannin...........
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by GenKiDama View Post
    Edo shouldn't be counted in top 10's, like how you wouldn't count a summon. And where the hell is Nagato in the OP?
    Nagato got Rinnegan from Madara otherwise he would be a Crybaby...............And that's y he didn't put him in list.................
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    HANZO? in the top 10?

    Hashirama
    Jiraya
    Tsunade
    Orochimaru
    Madara
    Minato
    Itachi
    Shisui
    Tobirama
    3rd Raikage
    Muu
    all these guys can take him out
     
         
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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    It should be like this......
    Lvl 1:Hashirama,Madara and MInato
    Lvl2:ITachi,Tobirama,SM Naruto(NO Kyubi) and MS Sasuke(No gifts)
    Level3ro,Jiraya etc

    Kabuto can't make it in top 10 without gifts....................
    Hanzo is a fodder compared to any of current Sannin...........
    Naruto & sasuke with just natural talent, cant be in top 10.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Nagato got Rinnegan from Madara otherwise he would be a Crybaby...............And that's y he didn't put him in list.................
    exactly !! ^
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukaria View Post
    HANZO? in the top 10?

    Hashirama
    Jiraya
    Tsunade
    Orochimaru
    Madara
    Minato
    Itachi
    Shisui
    Tobirama
    3rd Raikage
    Muu
    all these guys can take him out
    c'mon ! hanzo was supposed to be one of the strongest ninja of his time, ie during hiruzen's era. so I'd put him in almost same class as hiruzen, thats why he's a lvl below hiruzen. During the sanins fight with hanzo, they survived just because of tsunade,otherwise they'd be poisoned.
    However, I agree that there are few ninjas better than hanzo, so I take him back & replace with 3rd raikage. seems legit ?
     
         

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    Re: A ninja's true arsenal & thereby, the top 10

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    Time after this, without his ninjutsu arsenal, Orochimaru was able to survive a battle against two Sannin with the help of a Jounin level shinobi, Kabuto... Orochimaru defended himself. He learned about the Third Hokage lasts words.

    Ninjutsu doesn't define true strength.

    This said, I'm not so sure about Madara, Orochimaru and Kabuto, which existences don't have anything to protect. The other ones... I agree.
     
         

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