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    Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    so a lot of minato bashing around here but I want to ask who is original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???
    lets start with few popular ninjas

    1.Madara Uchihaa
    what is so uniqueness about madara.
    Got free intel and knowledge from ancestors and Uchihaa tablet
    Madara got free dojutsu Sharingan, that all uchihaa gets
    M.S , E.M.S are genetic traits which comes after witnessing death of your family or friends
    Tsukuyomi,Genjutsu,Susanoo etc all comes free after u get M.S so nothing genuine about it
    madara stole hashi's DNA so he got rinnegan. and it appears, all the tech of Rinnegan comes free after u got rinnegan so no learning shit.

    2.Itachi Uchihaa
    same as madara.
    even analytic skills of itachi are boons of sharingan so no uniqueness about it
    Itachi found Totsuka and yata , no created it . so no credit for itachi

    3.Sasugay
    got free cursed mark
    got free EMS from itachi's eye
    got free amaterasu , susanoo, tsukuyomi from itachi's gifted eyes

    4.Obito
    got free senju DNA from madara or he would had been dead
    got free Rinnegan from Nagato
    got free education and knowledge from madara and uchihaa tablet
    got free gedo mazo from madara
    got free Bijju's from akatsuki
    got free jinchuriki mode from plot
    got free OP ness from plot

    The list goes on , so all popular ninjas got all free talents from somewhere else. only Hashi, Tobirama and SO6P are truly original characters.
    but we must consider Minato best ninja without Keke genkai.
    Minato didn't had senju power/life force. nor he had unique sharingan,Rinnegan,Byakugan dojutsu.

    but still Minato managed to learn stuffs and master it to perfection.
    Minato watched TBB and he figured out its mechanism himself and created Rashingan. and Minato didn't had sharingan or byakugan to figure out it mechanism. That's sheer genuisness

    Minato analyzed Kashi's chidori and found out its mechanism and weakness in an instant. lol no other uchihaa with sharingan could do that.

    Minato perfected S/T tech of Tobirama and made a lot of variant about it , even at a young age. lolz even tobirama couldn't manage to do these shits in his life time.

    Minato killed platoons after platoons and all other ninjas were so scared as shit about minato that they were ordered to flee at sight. Minato defeated hokage A and jinchuriki B many times in life time and played them like toys. but
    same village only 20 ninja were hunting down Tobirama as dogs and even managed to kill him. so where is the dignity of Tobirama.

    Minato is the best , and only minato can be included in the most original ninjas including Tobirama, Hashirama,and SO6P himself.

    comment and feel free to expree ideas :D
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    yeah...everyone...Noob
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    What do you mean by "original"?
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Really??? Basically the only original ninja is the sage cus he invented anything out of nothing
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    No one is original.
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    How does Madara and Obito gaining knowledge from the Uchiha tablet not make that original?
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    the thread started out fair enough, but then you went full retard
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Um Gai?
    -Not gifted at all, his power is completely based on his hard work.
    -And he is the only ninja we know of who has mastered the 8-gates.
    -He isn't a copy of anyone but a real person aka Bruce Lee
    --And if we are talking about true ninjas he is it.



    There are plenty of ninjas who are original, and haven't been given things to become powerful
     
         
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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    I agree that Minato > , but you're retarded. Trust me, English class helps...
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    naruto:
    1. perfect sage mode without frog
    2. unique sensing abilities
    3. created one of the most powerfull elemental jutsu

    sasuke:
    1. unique KKG ( blaze release)
    2. created one of the most powerfull elemental jutsu
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    you missed out alot of others
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Minato is the best and he is the true shinobi unlike Naruto,Hashirama,Tobirama,Madara,Itachi and Sasuke he is from a fodder family and still stood at the top of the shinobi world ......

    What makes Hashirama so special......?

    He is a senju.
    Got WS by birth..
    Got strong chakra by birth..
    U can't get them with talent or hard work
    What makes him so spl without all these things...?

    Same with Tobirama...
    The name Senju it self represents that they are the ppl with a 1000 jutsu...
    nothing special.......
    EDO surpassed by both Oro & Kabuto

    FTG surpassed by MInato

    Speed and Shunshin :Surpassed by MInato

    but in Minato's case no one able to reach his level even though he is from a fodder family ....

    His mastary over Rasengan is unparalled
    FTG Unparalled
    Speed unparalled
    Shunshin unparalled
    Shadow clone with FTG unparalled
    his efficency at usng every Jutsu is unparalled.....
    His reaction speed unparalled
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Sexy Jutsu was Original
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lt Fresh View Post
    Um Gai?
    -Not gifted at all, his power is completely based on his hard work.
    -And he is the only ninja we know of who has mastered the 8-gates.
    -He isn't a copy of anyone but a real person aka Bruce Lee
    --And if we are talking about true ninjas he is it.



    There are plenty of ninjas who are original, and haven't been given things to become powerful
    Ur right but he is still nowhere near Minato.......
    Minato is younger than current Gai when he died,and still nither Gai nor Kakashi are able to surpass him.......
    Taijutsu existed even b4 founding of Konoha.....
    Kakashi can open gate's like Gai may be up to 4 or 5...
    Gai didn't crated the concept of Gates .........
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcrazyboyravi View Post
    but we must consider Minato best ninja without Keke genkai.
    Minato didn't had senju power/life force. nor he had unique sharingan,Rinnegan,Byakugan dojutsu.

    but still Minato managed to learn stuffs and master it to perfection.
    Minato watched TBB and he figured out its mechanism himself and created Rashingan. and Minato didn't had sharingan or byakugan to figure out it mechanism. That's sheer genuisness

    Minato analyzed Kashi's chidori and found out its mechanism and weakness in an instant. lol no other uchihaa with sharingan could do that.

    Minato perfected S/T tech of Tobirama and made a lot of variant about it , even at a young age. lolz even tobirama couldn't manage to do these shits in his life time.

    Minato killed platoons after platoons and all other ninjas were so scared as shit about minato that they were ordered to flee at sight. Minato defeated hokage A and jinchuriki B many times in life time and played them like toys. but
    same village only 20 ninja were hunting down Tobirama as dogs and even managed to kill him. so where is the dignity of Tobirama.

    Minato is the best , and only minato can be included in the most original ninjas including Tobirama, Hashirama,and SO6P himself.

    comment and feel free to expree ideas :D
    Confirmed minato wank thread, & this proves it

    3.Sasugay
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukaria View Post
    you missed out alot of others
    Yes, bcoz thire skill isn't enough to compare them with Hashirama and Tobirama.............
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Well...Obito kinda had to kill Konan for those eyes...not ENTIRERLY free.

    As for all the Minato boasting.

    1. Honestly the mechanics of the TBB kinda shows itself easily.....the chakra itself is visibly seen spiraling the first time Gyuki/Bee use it.

    2. You cannot claim the Chidori moment as only Minato's...we never saw an opportunity for an Uchiha/other person to analyze it really. You could say by the fact Itachi blew it into a wall meant he analyzed its weakness and used that.

    3. Tobirama died during war... He kinda had his life cut short. Additionally, he focused on Suiton than FTG. Why bother advancing a technique that, in the form it existed, was enough for him to use?

    4. The MOTHER ****ING KINKAKU FORCE! This is a list of events in itself.


    A) Kinkaku and Ginkaku are absolute badasses... They got mad trolled during the war. They literally went without challenge and destroyed Darui with minimal effort. Plot saves Darui. In addition, they had Kyubi mode after their incredible and formidable strength.

    B) Tobirama was clearly visibly worn.... Meaning he'd been fighting previously.

    C) Tobirama became a DECOY.

    D) While being a decoy, Tobirama had to gain the attention of 20 people.

    E) With that... Tobirama had to also contain these 20 people to prevent even one of them from chasing his students.

    F) Kinkaku and Ginkaku were notably arrogant. As a result, only people close to their level would be allowed in the group. With that....literally anyone other then super haax people like Hashirama or Madara would have likely died.

    From here is more speculation as opposed to more easily assumed information.

    G) Kakuzu saw Kinkaku transform once before

    H) The Kinkaku force was also a master bounty hunter group

    I) Put G & H together and it is likely Kakuzu was in the force and Tobirama actually killed Ginkaku

    J) Kakuzu's Masks make a 24 body count

    And now for the finally

    K) Notice though...the Gold and Silver brothers are similarly aged.

    L) Madara mentioned Edo Tensei was a suicide technique.

    M) put those together and Tobirama likely uses Edo Tensei: Converging Exploding Talismans to clear the map. Why do that?! Tobirama has a realistic personality. With this method, he guarantees his teams survival. Very Tobirama like. Also, since they are only explosions, Kakuzu survives with Doton: Domu




    Analyze a situation before you go degrade someone because of it....if anything one could argue Tobirama was the better shinobi because he saved his team. Was a shadow clone too much for Minato to do?! I think not. But I won't argue in that fashion it is pointless because both loved the village.




    This being said, Minato is origional in the fashion that he personalized a fighting style. Instead of copying someone's style perfectly, he advanced it with his own seal and moves within it. There was no need to bash other characters because you wish to declare someone unique.
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Spacey orange View Post
    naruto:
    1. perfect sage mode without frog
    2. unique sensing abilities
    3. created one of the most powerfull elemental jutsu

    sasuke:
    1. unique KKG ( blaze release)
    2. created one of the most powerfull elemental jutsu
    SM needs great deal of chakra and life force..
    U can't change the fact that Naruto is a Half Uzumaki and he got Kushina's powers and Kushina's chakra is the stronget even amoung the Uzumaki clan.......
    Every MS had a unique tech just like Kumui and KA...u can't learn that with talent and Hardwork..........
    It is imposible dream for Sasuke to create any thing without his Uchiha powers and Oro's CM............
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Orochimaru. And why you hatin' on Uchihas, 'cause they pwn your favorite characters?.
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by KGB Kakuzu View Post
    Well...Obito kinda had to kill Konan for those eyes...not ENTIRERLY free.

    As for all the Minato boasting.

    1. Honestly the mechanics of the TBB kinda shows itself easily.....the chakra itself is visibly seen spiraling the first time Gyuki/Bee use it.

    2. You cannot claim the Chidori moment as only Minato's...we never saw an opportunity for an Uchiha/other person to analyze it really. You could say by the fact Itachi blew it into a wall meant he analyzed its weakness and used that.

    3. Tobirama died during war... He kinda had his life cut short. Additionally, he focused on Suiton than FTG. Why bother advancing a technique that, in the form it existed, was enough for him to use?

    4. The MOTHER ****ING KINKAKU FORCE! This is a list of events in itself.


    A) Kinkaku and Ginkaku are absolute badasses... They got mad trolled during the war. They literally went without challenge and destroyed Darui with minimal effort. Plot saves Darui. In addition, they had Kyubi mode after their incredible and formidable strength.

    B) Tobirama was clearly visibly worn.... Meaning he'd been fighting previously.

    C) Tobirama became a DECOY.

    D) While being a decoy, Tobirama had to gain the attention of 20 people.

    E) With that... Tobirama had to also contain these 20 people to prevent even one of them from chasing his students.

    F) Kinkaku and Ginkaku were notably arrogant. As a result, only people close to their level would be allowed in the group. With that....literally anyone other then super haax people like Hashirama or Madara would have likely died.

    From here is more speculation as opposed to more easily assumed information.

    G) Kakuzu saw Kinkaku transform once before

    H) The Kinkaku force was also a master bounty hunter group

    I) Put G & H together and it is likely Kakuzu was in the force and Tobirama actually killed Ginkaku

    J) Kakuzu's Masks make a 24 body count

    And now for the finally

    K) Notice though...the Gold and Silver brothers are similarly aged.

    L) Madara mentioned Edo Tensei was a suicide technique.

    M) put those together and Tobirama likely uses Edo Tensei: Converging Exploding Talismans to clear the map. Why do that?! Tobirama has a realistic personality. With this method, he guarantees his teams survival. Very Tobirama like. Also, since they are only explosions, Kakuzu survives with Doton: Domu




    Analyze a situation before you go degrade someone because of it....if anything one could argue Tobirama was the better shinobi because he saved his team. Was a shadow clone too much for Minato to do?! I think not. But I won't argue in that fashion it is pointless because both loved the village.




    This being said, Minato is origional in the fashion that he personalized a fighting style. Instead of copying someone's style perfectly, he advanced it with his own seal and moves within it. There was no need to bash other characters because you wish to declare someone unique.
    I agree with everything exept that Tbb thing and Tobirama didn't killed any of Kin & Gin they left Tobirama near death and it isn't a war ...Tobi went to meet 2nd Rikage(Peace agrmnt) and Kin & Gin planed a coup and attacked both Rikage and Hokage

    It is unknown wether Rikage died on that day or not but they left Tobi near death......
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaNagashi View Post
    Orochimaru. And why you hatin' on Uchihas, 'cause they pwn your favorite characters?.
    He didn't paw them he just mentioned unlike Uchiha and Senju(Basically decendents of God), Minato is a Naturally gifted Shinobi..........
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Minato is the best and he is the true shinobi unlike Naruto,Hashirama,Tobirama,Madara,Itachi and Sasuke he is from a fodder family and still stood at the top of the shinobi world ......

    What makes Hashirama so special......?

    He is a senju.
    Got WS by birth..
    Got strong chakra by birth..
    U can't get them with talent or hard work
    What makes him so spl without all these things...?

    Same with Tobirama...
    The name Senju it self represents that they are the ppl with a 1000 jutsu...
    nothing special.......
    EDO surpassed by both Oro & Kabuto

    FTG surpassed by MInato

    Speed and Shunshin :Surpassed by MInato
    Ok so if you're Senju then you can automatically create techniques?.. you take away from Tobirama by claiming all this bullsh*t about his Shunshin, FTG and Edo Tensei being surpassed by Minato, but you don't seem to also point out that Tobirama CREATED these techniques, and without the FTG that Tobirama CREATED, Minato will be NOTHING...

    That's not the point btw, the point is.. it's even more DIFFICULT to CREATE an absolutely new technique than it is to just work on it and make it better
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Enough Minato wank for today,dont you think?
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobby17 View Post
    Ok so if you're Senju then you can automatically create techniques?.. you take away from Tobirama by claiming all this bullsh*t about his Shunshin, FTG and Edo Tensei being surpassed by Minato, but you don't seem to also point out that Tobirama CREATED these techniques, and without the FTG that Tobirama CREATED, Minato will be NOTHING...

    That's not the point btw, the point is.. it's even more DIFFICULT to CREATE an absolutely new technique than it is to just work on it and make it better
    Ur right and I didn't said Tobi got no talent,his tech are surpassed by others but look at Minato is there anyone that can use Rasengan as efficently as MInato.....?
    Minato managed to took Rasengan to its highest possible range with shapemanipulation alone, means that u can't improve it any further isn't it.....?
    Practically Minato developed his own FTG by followng the same prncpl as Tobi and still there is no shinobi that can use FTG as effictively as Minato........!
    for someone from a normal family it is a bit more impressive compared to some one from an elight family ...isn't it...?

    Minato died during his 20's...but Tobi's case is different he had more than enough time to improve FTG.......right......?
     
         

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    Re: Any original ninjas except Tobirama,SO6P,hashirama ???

    You must hate the Uchiha
     
         

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