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    Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Lately people have been saying that Hashi can't compete because now Madara has both wood style and rinnegan, and they basically drawled at the VOTE. People forget that Madara had the power of the NINE TAILED DEMON FOX on his side in that fight. Essentially, Hashi was fighting two opponents. Granted, wood style and rinnegan are huge power ups. But if anything, now they are even. Madara is no stronger than Hashi.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    True....:
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    It an even match up, but due to Madara having Preta Path, all jutsu is irrelevant. Sage mode might be able to do something though.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Hashi can grow hash. GG
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Well, edo Madara can summon meteors and stabilize his PS into something larger than Kurama. Plus he has all of Hashi's non SM techniques.

    Oh yeah don't forget Rinnegan jutsu also
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    its pretty obvious that madaras rinnegan and mokuton are a nonfactor if you were to look at their current fight. its only PS vs mokujin. people need to take off their selective reading goggles.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Havent seen wood from both, havent seen meteors, havent seen rinnegan tech. Its just PS vs Mokujin.
    Your thread is now invalid
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    its pretty obvious that madaras rinnegan and mokuton are a nonfactor if you were to look at their current fight. its only PS vs mokujin. people need to take off their selective reading goggles.
    A hasty Generalization; your mulling on Hashirama's behalf seems to be continually fallacious. The Manga does not revolve around what you think should have been done at any time but rather what the Author see's fit in order to progress his plot. For example: Kakashi not using Kamui against either Kakuzu or Hidan despite having the technique.

    OT: The Kyuubi became apart of Madara's power/arsenal prior to his battle with Hashirama; similarly Naruto with the Gama summon/Kuchiyose's in general.
     
         
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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Ima Hashi fanboy but yeah going to be realistic

    So far Madara owns Hashi
    Madara doesnt have the kyuubi anymore but he could create a wood dragon as replacement
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Waltz View Post
    A hasty Generalization; your mulling on Hashirama's behalf seems to be continually fallacious. The Manga does not revolve around what you think should have been done at any time but rather what the Author see's fit in order to progress his plot. For example: Kakashi not using Kamui against either Kakuzu or Hidan despite having the technique.

    OT: The Kyuubi became apart of Madara's power/arsenal prior to his battle with Hashirama; similarly Naruto with the Gama summon/Kuchiyose's in general.
    Then its still not full power and we dont know whos stronger
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Waltz View Post
    A hasty Generalization; your mulling on Hashirama's behalf seems to be continually fallacious. The Manga does not revolve around what you think should have been done at any time but rather what the Author see's fit in order to progress his plot. For example: Kakashi not using Kamui against either Kakuzu or Hidan despite having the technique.

    OT: The Kyuubi became apart of Madara's power/arsenal prior to his battle with Hashirama; similarly Naruto with the Gama summon/Kuchiyose's in general.
    He was planning to, before he was so rudely interrupted by Naruto and Yamato.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Kurama is nothing compard to rinnegan and moukton, and Hashi is weaker than he was when he was alive, my phones autocorrect is annoying tho =[

    BTW i love hashi but madara is slightly stronget atm, pls dont bash at me :D:D
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by chiucho View Post
    Then its still not full power and we dont know whos stronger
    True?...




    A very true statement as later on we see Madara beating Hashirama out of Sennin Modo as well as the Remains of Shin-shuusenju without the kyuubi's help....




    His Edo-tensei State succeeds his prime.

    @TrollingSage: Makes no difference to my point.
     
         
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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Waltz View Post
    A hasty Generalization; your mulling on Hashirama's behalf seems to be continually fallacious. The Manga does not revolve around what you think should have been done at any time but rather what the Author see's fit in order to progress his plot. For example: Kakashi not using Kamui against either Kakuzu or Hidan despite having the technique.

    OT: The Kyuubi became apart of Madara's power/arsenal prior to his battle with Hashirama; similarly Naruto with the Gama summon/Kuchiyose's in general.
    the manga revolves around what it shows, not any kind of logic you try to apply to it.

    you are only spewing this nonsense, because the way madara is fighting now doesnt support your interpretation of what he should be.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    yeah right

    hashi = madara
    that's a fact
    they will be rival and equal till the end
    plus : madara said himself that hashi is the nly one who has chance in beating him
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    the manga revolves around what it shows, not any kind of logic you try to apply to it.

    you are only spewing this nonsense, because the way madara is fighting now doesnt support your interpretation of what he should be.
    Basically, Sages you have concluded that if a said character does not display a specific technique...it means they cannot perform it?

    Hmm..That would mean a Mangekyou User as Izuna cannot use Tsukuyomi or that Nadaime is only capable of preforming a single suiton?... Do you enjoy meddling in idiocy?
     
         
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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Plot is in madara's favour, but obito is a much more important enemy atm.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    I also think that they are on the same level. When Madara was defeated, he was defeated by something as small as a clone which is kinda disappointing after they done had that big fight.
     
         

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    Re: Something people forget about Hashi vs Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Waltz View Post
    Basically, Sages you have concluded that if a said character does not display specific technique...it means they cannot perform it?

    the manga shows what a character can do. any argument that involves any extrapolation to any degree whatsoever on a characters abilities is fanfiction. any extrapolation of feats is fanfiction. that is not what i have concluded. that is fact and is a universal truth for debates. no proof=no argument.
    Hmm..That would mean a Mangekyou User as Shushi cannot use Tsukuyomi or that Nadaime is only capable of preforming a single suiton?... Do you enjoy meddling in idiocy?
    i dont even know why you're asking this. if you say a character can use something and its not supported by feats, then it is fanfiction.
     
         

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