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    Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    A lot of people said he was hit and would regenerate soon. Some people said that he is gone forever.



    It was stated here:
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/642/5
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/642/6

    That if Obito attacks you with the black balls you will die again. As you can see from the above pic, Hiruzen is gone for good unless Orochimaru comes back and revives him.

    This is what I do not understand though.



    -1st Hokage was hit, but it was a CLONE -- so he is alright.
    -Minato was hit and got his arm ripped off -- he can't regenerate now.
    -2nd Hokage (as seen above) had a large part of his body blown off and was attacked in a similar way like Minato and Hiruzen. That wasn't even a clone of him, yet he regenerated.
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Maybe it's because he killed himself later.
    Perhaps if Minato detonates his own body, he'll regenerate completely.

    Just a theory.


    Or maybe it's because Tobirama is a BOSS!
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Final verdict- Hiruzen solos chapter 645 and shows why hes the strongest of the hokages
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    The very last part of your post, about Tobirama still regenerating, disproves that Hiruzen is gone. If Tobirama regenerated, so will Hiruzen. He's just fallen and can't reach his LifeAlert.
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Firstly, I'll say Hiruzen was hit by an attack that didn't erase you just like Tobirama.

    http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=420373

    ^^^That's the explaination.



    Moving on, with the recent attack...it was a TBB blast, and that's different from Obito's Omnyoudon stuff. It is a regular bomb made by mixing one's chakra with the Juubi's chakra.

    Notice that Madara and Hashirama were both caught in the blast. Do you think they would be iced so easily!? I personally do not think so, and as such, conclude that the attack was different from the one that struck Minato. And thus Hiruzen is still alive.



    Considering Tobirama CREATED Edo Tensei... and even has traps for bombs... he likely knows a faster regeneration technique.


    The only reason Hirzuen would be "Dead" would be because when the headshot occurs, the command talisman also got destroyed, but considering Tobirama was fine...I'm inclined to think the same for Hiruzen.
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    The very last part of your post, about Tobirama still regenerating, disproves that Hiruzen is gone. If Tobirama regenerated, so will Hiruzen. He's just fallen and can't reach his LifeAlert.
    OMFG hilarious^
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Hiruzen solos.
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Im kinda thinking Hiruzen is dead, either that or Hes waiting to do something cool
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    its simple as this....

    you could regenerate when obito hit you when he was not in full control(tobirama, and hiruzen).

    However, once obito got control, is when he could inflict permanant damage to an edo(this is do to a additional technique obito began to use, not the black rods themselves)

    . So unless he randomly killed hiruzen again, hiruzen at least WAS regenerating.

    We dont know the range of obitos technique(the one that can inflict permanent damage) and whether or not he can use anything other than the black rods to do it.


    There are only 5 reasonable explanations that could explain why hiruzen is not back yet

    1. When obito gained control, he nullified hiruzens regeneration.

    2. Hiruzen got permanetly killed by the tbbs that just happened.

    3. Headshots kill edos.

    4. He was still regenerating after takeing fatal damage.

    5. Kishi simply hasnt given him panel time and he is regened already

    I think it is number 4.(also it doesnt help that he mightve just taken more damage from the tbb.)
    People are jumping the gun that just because he hasnt been shown yet, means he is gone. Until we see a hiruzen dead body, we must assume he is still regenerating. fatal wounds take quite some time to regenerate.


    Saying hiruzen is dead, is like saying kakashi is dead.

    Neither are confirmed, so it must be assumed both are still alive, until their dead bodies are shown.

    It would be near pointless for hiruzen to have made those observations, then die for good.

    I suspect we will see a bit more of him soon.(hiruzen is old, and isnt nearly as good in a fight as other hokages. His main role is likely a support.
     
         

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    Re: Final Verdict On Hiruzen

    Just realized something... not sure if I should make another thread about it. Check this out:

    Hiruzen had his upper body blown off. If he could regenerate, all hope it lost now.

    Obito just nuked that whole area. Naruto and Minato got everyone out of that place alive -- everyone that had the cloak of the nine-tails on them.

    Madara, Hashirama and Hiruzen were not given the cloak.

    Madara told Hashi not to worry since they could just regenerate... but really?

    Think about this like DBZ ki blasts... an attack like that vaporizes the enemy. No more body, no more bones, nothing... just dust and dirt... totally obliterated.

    Can they really come back from that?
     
         

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