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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Yeah.. Nagato would have been defeated.. High dif.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Quote Originally Posted by abister90 View Post
    Pain's defeat at the hands of Naruto was a great way for his character development, but do you think that Jiraiya could have defeat Pain?

    Think about it:

    -Jiraiya went into battle not knowing anything about the enemy.

    -Jiraiya's entire battle with Pain was basically an experiment, if you will. The more he faught Pain, the more he learned about his techniques. He gave this message to Leaf and they were well aware of what they were dealing with.

    -When Naruto went into battle with Pain, he knew what he was dealing with as well.

    If Jiraiya had a second chance at Pain, do you think he would stand a chance?
    Nope, even with full intel, he couldn't take on 6 pains. He struggled with 3, he knew he couldn't fight 3 so had to run away and rely on Ma&Pa's genjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Quote Originally Posted by abister90 View Post
    Pain's defeat at the hands of Naruto was a great way for his character development, but do you think that Jiraiya could have defeat Pain?

    Think about it:

    -Jiraiya went into battle not knowing anything about the enemy.

    -Jiraiya's entire battle with Pain was basically an experiment, if you will. The more he faught Pain, the more he learned about his techniques. He gave this message to Leaf and they were well aware of what they were dealing with.

    -When Naruto went into battle with Pain, he knew what he was dealing with as well.

    If Jiraiya had a second chance at Pain, do you think he would stand a chance?
    I think the outcome would be the same since Jiraiya didn't fight all 6 at one time. he struggled severly with 3

    Only reason naruto won is cause the nine tails went rampant
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Jiraiya may not fully defeat Pein, but most probably 50% chance.
    He was not ready to fight, but to gather intel about Pein.
    For intel, Kakashi did provide accurate intel and get Choji to tell Tsunade.
    Note that Pein was the student of Jiraiya and would know Jiraiya jutsu & strength.
    Naruto lost to Pein with chakra rods holding him.
    Then when using Kurama (already 8 Tails, as Yamato knew).
    And with Senjutsu, Naruto knew where Nagato was.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    I doubt it..
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    I love Jiraiya, but I doubt he would have won against Pain. First all of those who say " Even Pain said that with full intel Jiraiya would win." Pain said that that was a possibility, not a fact. I think someone already mentioned it, his only hope is sound genjutsu and to do it before Chibaku Tensei or a strong Shinra Tensei. If he doesn't though, he doesn't have the firepower to get out. I think that his potential to win a battle against Pain with full intel, is still very slim.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    I hate when ppl try and use quotes from the characters to back up a point, it's honestly dumb because kishi dictates what they say, not the characters themselves, anyways I say no, chibaku tensei and it's game over.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    If he had info, of course. Even pain admitted it...
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    I think he would have had a chance.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Quote Originally Posted by abister90 View Post
    Pain's defeat at the hands of Naruto was a great way for his character development, but do you think that Jiraiya could have defeat Pain?

    Think about it:

    -Jiraiya went into battle not knowing anything about the enemy.

    -Jiraiya's entire battle with Pain was basically an experiment, if you will. The more he faught Pain, the more he learned about his techniques. He gave this message to Leaf and they were well aware of what they were dealing with.

    -When Naruto went into battle with Pain, he knew what he was dealing with as well.

    If Jiraiya had a second chance at Pain, do you think he would stand a chance?
    no dont think so. tendo is too much even for jiraiya
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    CT and ST. nuff said.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Lets make this fair. Both sides have full intel on each other. So much so that Nagato knows that Jiraiya has intel and Jiraiya knows Nagato has intel.

    Since both sides have full knowledge, Nagato can just attack from the distance with CT since he would know that sound based genjutsu would hurt him. Also, Jiraiya cannot attack from such a far distance.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    I don't think so.. If you guys remember, Jiraya said that he had two ''near death'' experiences. 1. Tsunade hitting him when he was peeking. 2. Fighting Naruto, when Naruto had 4 or 6 tails (can't remember). Pain was able to defeat nine-tails naruto (before minato came in the picture)

    Correct me if im wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Of course, with full intel, all he need do is draw all 6 paths out and use Frog Song.

    All that's left after that is to deal with the crippled Outer Path a.k.a Nagato.
     
         

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    Re: Could Jiraiya Have Defeated Pain?

    Well, he did best the male Animal Path and was pretty good with Ma and Pa with their sound genjutsu.
     
         

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