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    How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Just curious lol
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    nobody should , but they both have powerups from somebody else ^_^
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    I do. Both without kamui and Kakashi is the better ninja
    Always have been.

    He's so underrated on this forum it's sickening. He recieves compliments on his skills as a ninja from almost all the top ranked characters and can hold his own against most of them.

    When someone like Nagato tells you you're too strong to be alive you could become a problem later it should be recognized.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    It was a fight. The one who fights fair and square is the one who dies. There is no honor in a fight to the death
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Kakashi won, there's no "fairness" in a fight to the death..
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Quote Originally Posted by KillYondaimeHaters View Post
    I do. Both without kamui and Kakashi is the better ninja
    Always have been.

    He's so underrated on this forum it's sickening. He recieves compliments on his skills as a ninja from almost all the top ranked characters and can hold his own against most of them.

    When someone like Nagato tells you you're too strong to be alive you could become a problem later it should be recognized.
    Agreed. Act high and mighty now Obito. If it wasn't for 10 tails you would have been dead with a hole in your chest by Kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    of course it was, there is nothing unfair about a 1v1, Kakashi won simple as that

    he isn't superior though and that fight shouldn't be used to say he is.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    This would have finished Obito right then and there.


     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeto30294 View Post
    This would have finished Obito right then and there.


    This would have finished kakashi right then & there so your point is invalid.



    OT: Kakashi had help from naruto, he did not beat obito with the power that he owns. If we were to give them their full chakra & powers then obito > kakashi no contest. Kakashi obviously won but he didnt do it on his own.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Kakashi beat obito because they were in a situation where they had to rely on the fundamentals, a situation that suited Kakashi ; as he if far superior to obito is that category.

    There was no tricks, nor was it an uneven battle from the minute they both went into the dimension together.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    no point kakashi is wothless
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuuybi View Post
    no point kakashi is wothless
    Even though he beat the main villain in Naruto...
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    it was a fair fight this is ninja we're talking about they fight in unfair situations. its obitos fault for relying to much on kamui he accidentally handicapped himself because he isnt good at hand to hand combat all he did through out the whole manga was kamui, kamui and kamui so his lack of taijutsu wasnt on kakashis level who is a very well rounded ninja
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    whoever says or believe that it was a fair fight,not the lamest pnj,by saying that obito can't beat kakashi without kamui,should kill themselves.
    Read his past,then realise that kakashi is alive only because he got his butt saved twice by obito and thrice if u include obito leaving him alive,and then come here and say the same.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    It was made clear that Kakashi is a much more skilled ninja than Obito.

    He only beat him because they were in the kamui dimension but he beat him nonetheless.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Kakashi won only due to his invisible plot shield.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilOne View Post
    Kakashi won only due to his invisible plot shield.

    How was it plot shield? Obito had no Kamui and had to rely on the basics, Kakashi as a sensei would obviously be effective in that field.There's no such thing as a fair fight when it comes to ninja's if you lose you lose.IRL when you lose to a ninja you don't get a second chance.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilOne View Post
    Kakashi won only due to his invisible plot shield.
    How was it plot shield?

    It simply shows that Obito didn't train during the 16 year gap. He thought of himself invincible due to his haxxed Kamui/DNA and got smashed as a result.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    The plot was that Obito was weakened and Kakashi's chakra reserves were restored by Sakura. The plot was that they fought on an area where Obito couldn't use his strongest technique.
     
         

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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    Which Obito are we talking about? The one we've actually seen in the manga, with limited, low scale Mokuton, and only several Rinnegan techniques, all of which are for support, none for offense? Or the fan-fiction version that has Mokuton on Hashirama and Madara's level, and can use all the Rinnegan abilities (despite only having one eye) on par with Nagato?

    If we're talking about the former, Kakashi has a legitimate shot. His physical capabilities are on par with Obito's, if not outright superior (speed, reflexes, Taijutsu). Their ninjutsu is on par, albeit Kakashi has more versatility. Hitting Obito will be an issue due to phasing, but considering Kakashi can just warp a shadow clone to camp in the Kamui dimension, that option can be potentially nullified. This is, of course, assuming Obito does not have access to the Bijuu that were handed to him on a silver platter (i.e. the accumulated effort of many Akatsuki members) nor the Edo Tensei Jinchuuriki that Kabuto gifted him.

    Oh, and for people who continuously refer to "Kakashi getting help," . . . Kakashi started fighting an entire day before Obito even entered the war. He joined Naruto and Bee on Obito's battlefield after a full day of fighting Edo Tensei swordsmen. He was further worn down fighting V2 Jinchuuriki that Kabuto gave to Obito. He then wasted even more chakra directly fighting the ten tails, not Obito himself. Him having his chakra replenished only makes up for the energy he spent on efforts that were not a legitimate part of Obito's power. Obviously, Obito has more chakra than Kakashi but Kakashi's chakra replenishments are nowhere near as "unfair" as people are implying they were. In a one-on-one fight, it probably wouldn't even come down to who has more stamina.

    If we're talking about the latter, Obito easily takes it with village sized Shinra Tenseis and a mile-long Mokuton forest.
     
         
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    Re: How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

    There is no honor in a fight to the death
    theres a difference between fighting dishonorably and fighting against someone whos severely weakened and not full powered. danzo using KA and making kinkaku bros kil each other is cheap and dishonorable but NOT defeating someone who is deathly sick and weakened from other factors.

    If it wasn't for 10 tails you would have been dead with a hole in your chest by Kakashi.
    even with no bijuus, whats kakashis plan to take on the flame barrier and gedo mazo?
    who put gedo mazo on its ass? not kakashi. kakashis raikiri did jackshit to it.

    Kakashi won, there's no "fairness" in a fight to the death..
    so who won when obito fired off about 6 bijuudamas and kakashi wanted to basically kill himself to teleport them away, and had to be saved by naruto?
    who won when obito was about to murder him with a shuriken in 608?
    if theres no "fair fights" in a duel to the death then itachi lost to sasuke didnt he?

    of course it was, there is nothing unfair about a 1v1, Kakashi won simple as that
    so theres nothing unfair about itachi being sickly and blind? nothing unfair about kisame being at 30% chakra vs gai?

    its obitos fault for relying to much on kamui he accidentally handicapped himself because he isnt good at hand to hand combat all he did through out the whole manga was kamu
    and flame barrier. and katon. and chakra chains. and bijuu summoning. and genjutsu. and mazo statue. and mokuton. and izanagi. and since obito could have raped kakashi about 10 times in this fight alone then that means kakashi has no excuse for his poor performance except not knowing how to fight. after all its a fair fight and obito cut him up with ease till naruto interfered.
    This would have finished Obito right then and there.
    obito had about ten opportunities before that to kill kakashi. he is stronger than kakashi

    lack of taijutsu wasnt on kakashis level
    chapter 608. re read it. obito rapes kakashi in taijutsu



    Both without kamui and Kakashi is the better ninja
    Always have been.
    so by restricting obito you make it seem as if kakashis stronger..nice
    There's no such thing as a fair fight when it comes to ninja's if you lose you lose.
    i see so itachi lost to sasuke, kimimaro lost to gaara, and sasori lost to chiyo and sakura? when you lose you lose after all.

    He only beat him because they were in the kamui dimension but he beat him nonetheless.
    so beating someoen whos completely exhausted and has lost half his strongest weapons means it was a fair fight and kakashi is superior? when obito could have killed him about 20 times before that if not for naruto and bees intervention? not to mention chapter 608. if handicaps arent important, didnt obito beat him fairly then?

    It simply shows that Obito didn't train during the 16 year gap. He thought of himself invincible due to his haxxed Kamui/DNA and got smashed as a result.
    yeah he didnt train...which is how he got good enough to have his eye powers praised by everyone, and his chakra levels surge to impossible levels...also if he was never fighting or training or using his power since his defeat to minato then HOW THE FUK DOES KONAN KNOW HOW HE DOES IT?


    If we're talking about the former, Kakashi has a legitimate shot. His physical capabilities are on par with Obito's
    well if we go with the non fiction obito, obito has gedo mazo, flame barrier and juubito form. exactly what can kakashi do vs either? he struggled with 2 V2 jinchurikis.

    Hitting Obito will be an issue due to phasing, but considering Kakashi can just warp a shadow clone to camp in the Kamui dimension
    and do....what? kakashi will be long dead via gedo mazo stepping on him before he ever formulates a chakra wasting plan like that. and obito no offence? his stakes would have raped bee if naruto didnt intervene. and his normal chains can bind up a bijuu casually.

    This is, of course, assuming Obito does not have access to the Bijuu that were handed to him on a silver platter (i.e. the accumulated effort of many Akatsuki members) nor the Edo Tensei Jinchuuriki that Kabuto gifted him.
    you praise obito getting power handed to him. but the fact of the matter is he has it. how he got it is now irrelevant just like kakashi without that sharingan would have been dead decades ago
     
         

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