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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    i did understand, i recomment you read the rest of my thread post.

    i'll leave this here.
    Indeed this scene proves that Mito's hair turned brown but that doens't mean that this rule applies to everyone with the same features. We can't really compare the hair colour of those 2. It only proves that the colour of the aged uzumaki apart from pure white can also be faint red or brown or that in general there are transitional level in the hair's change of colour as I suggested before.

    You stated Nagato's father as an exception to what I state; However, this is not necessarily correct. Supposedly that both Nagato's parents were uzumaki, it would be possible for Nagato have that colour. The fact that someone in the clan didn't have it only proves that it's not a rule that everyone in this clan has to have it but on the other hand that doesn't mean that someone who is not an uzumaki can have it. You said about the sage's 2 sons. Those 2 sons took exactly half of the characteristics of the sage which makes it highly possible that they were actually created by the creation of all things, so a characteristic such as his hair's colour which is a characteristic of the complete being, of uzumaki, is possible to have stayed in that clan and therefore it's only but logical for only uzumaki to have it but a senju or an uchiha symbolize only half of that complete being so it does make it impossible to have it, if they were actually created like that.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    Indeed this scene proves that Mito's hair turned brown but that doens't mean that this rule applies to everyone with the same features. We can't really compare the hair colour of those 2. It only proves that the colour of the aged uzumaki apart from pure white can also be faint red or brown or that in general there are transitional level in the hair's change of colour as I suggested before.

    You stated Nagato's father as an exception to what I state; However, this is not necessarily correct. Supposedly that both Nagato's parents were uzumaki, it would be possible for Nagato have that colour. The fact that someone in the clan didn't have it only proves that it's not a rule that everyone in this clan has to have it but on the other hand that doesn't mean that someone who is not an uzumaki can have it. You said about the sage's 2 sons. Those 2 sons took exactly half of the characteristics of the sage which makes it highly possible that they were actually created by the creation of all things, so a characteristic such as his hair's colour which is a characteristic of the complete being, of uzumaki, is possible to have stayed in that clan and therefore it's only but logical for only uzumaki to have it but a senju or an uchiha symbolize only half of that complete being so it does make it impossible to have it, if they were actually created like that.
    1: i suggest you read into red hair colour's genetics
    2: as you can see, it is actually gray vieuwed from the back.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    It is same as this






    Really ..?
    Take a look at this (from the same thread)



    LOL the colour of her father's hair is purple and the fact that in the second picture is seen with more of red is only because of the light that there is from te surrounding areas during the night. Yo have to take eveything into account.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by Child Of The Great Empire View Post
    Manga>Anime. Until Kishi colors him, we don't know.
    So you're just suggesting that till Kishi colours a character for himself, he leaves it completetely up to the animators to paint his characters however they like, especially in a case as such in which his features, can be a strong indication?
     
         
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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    I guess When ur the ten tails Jin ur hair turn white/grey with auto dye, obito is a prime example , and so6p was also a Jin

    Anyways it could probably be a wig for all we know
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by P3IN View Post
    I guess When ur the ten tails Jin ur hair turn white/grey with auto dye, obito is a prime example , and so6p was also a Jin

    Anyways it could probably be a wig for all we know
    ahh! that explains it!
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by osba View Post
    So in the latest "next week on naruto" part of the episode, we got to see so6p's hair colour.

    as you can see in the unshaded part, it is gray, just like hiruzen's colour actually.
    It is gray, not white.. red hair turns white when aged.
    This could not have been possible in any case because the red hair we see from the uzumaki's was taken over by
    nagato even though his father had black hair so if So6p would have had red hair, we would have seen more red hair from his descendants, the senju and uchiha.
    Now you might state that they were created by creation of all things jutsu but Derp Obito himself claims that this is not the case in a discussion we once had..
    I'll update this part when i have found the arguement he brought up.
    now this does not mean that the so6p was not an uzumaki, this just means that the so6p did not have the red hair gen, wich means that they did not start the red hair trend back then^.^
    Nagato's dad isn't an Uzumaki...

    His Mom is an Uzumaki

     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by osba View Post
    1: i suggest you read into red hair colour's genetics
    2: as you can see, it is actually gray vieuwed from the back.
    It's funny actually because that's exactly what I said against Sir derp Obito but it cannot be considered a strong evidence. Tell me, does every person in his elder days has to have as a rule the same colour of hair on all his head? Can't just a part of his hair loose its colour faster than another one?
     
         
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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    Nagato's dad isn't an Uzumaki...
    don't you see how that is irrelevant?
    Quote Originally Posted by Byron123 View Post
    It's funny actually because that's exactly what I said against Sir derp Obito but it cannot be considered a strong evidence.
    i agree! but it's not the only evidence.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    LOL the colour of her father's hair is purple and the fact that in the second picture is seen with more of red is only because of the light that there is from te surrounding areas during the night. Yo have to take eveything into account.
    That light dosen't change Hair colour ..look carefully and

    See this

    Mito when she is Young

    Same as Sakura's Dad when he is Young



    When Mito is Old

    Same as Sakura's dad When he is Old


    Quote Originally Posted by osba View Post
    don't you see how that is irrelevant?
    Sorry but I didn't get u r point Here...Plz explain....
     
         
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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    That light dosen't change Hair colour ..look carefully and

    See this

    Mito when she is Young

    Same as Sakura's Dad when he is Young



    When Mito is Old

    Same as Sakura's dad When he is Old
    Yes! Here we see the hair colour of the same person between 2 different times of her life but if you compare episode 322, you'll see that when clouds coming towards the battlefield. Everyone's colours become more dark and there it was only but few clouds, in what you posted, the first is at day, the second at night.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    don't you see how that is irrelevant?

    i agree! but it's not the only evidence.
    then please post the rest.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by osba View Post
    believe what you want.. but uzumaki's turn white, not gray.. red hair goes white, not gray.
    in the unshaded version it is clearly gray.
    And how do you know it will always turn white?

    The very fact is, we don't have a colored image in the manga. This kind of thing happens all the time, where characters are given different color schemes than how they appeared in the manga because there was no color source. For all we know, Kishi intended for his hair in that scene to be pink, or yellow or blue. We can't go solely off of the anime for now. We've had hundreds of theories regarding the Sage and his hair and clan. Ain't it about time we just cool it and wait for an explanation of him for a little while or at least more information on him?
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    And how do you know it will always turn white?

    The very fact is, we don't have a colored image in the manga. This kind of thing happens all the time, where characters are given different color schemes than how they appeared in the manga because there was no color source. For all we know, Kishi intended for his hair in that scene to be pink, or yellow or blue. We can't go solely off of the anime for now. We've had hundreds of theories regarding the Sage and his hair and clan. Ain't it about time we just cool it and wait for an explanation of him for a little while or at least more information on him?
    You said how colours are incorrectly given all the time. Can you be more specific and give an example as such about Naruto's manga?
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by Byron123 View Post
    Yes! Here we see the hair colour of the same person between 2 different times of her life but if you compare episode 322, you'll see that when clouds coming towards the battlefield. Everyone's colours become more dark and there it was only but few clouds, in what you posted, the first is at day, the second at night.
    Look at the EDGE's of his Hair(lighting)...

     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Look at the EDGE's of his Hair(lighting)...

    I don't know what you see but to me it's more like purple. Besides, you loose the point here. What you're doing is to support that everyone who has red hair or rather a colour close to that can be an uzumaki whereas, I support that based on all the other clues Sir derp posted in his theory about his techniques (his seals, his chains etc) his colour being faint red can be used as a further indication that he actually was since we already have previous indications. You on the other hand take random characters with no previous indications of their origins and you support they are only because of having that colour.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by Byron123 View Post
    You said how colours are incorrectly given all the time. Can you be more specific and give an example as such about Naruto's manga?
    Kisame being light green in the manga, but blue in the anime.
    Itachi's Susano'o being yellow in the manga, but red in the anime.
    Sasuke's was also a different color from the manga in the anime.
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by Byron123 View Post
    Well true it's not an official manga proof but on the other hand, all these colours are chosen in advance. Do you think that Kishimoto just draws them in black and white and then he leaves it completely up to the animators to paint them in whatever way they want? Certainly not.


    didn't read after you said not an Official..
    Not in manga... yet not proven
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Kisame being light green in the manga, but blue in the anime.
    Itachi's Susano'o being yellow in the manga, but red in the anime.
    Sasuke's was also a different color from the manga in the anime.
    Ok you do have a point but here we're talking about a feature which plays a major role. Do you thinkt hat they wouldn't at least pay attention on that?
     
         

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    Re: As i thought, So6p does not have red hair..

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    didn't read after you said not an Official..
    Not in manga... yet not proven

    very mature, you got me there. How would you expect it to be mentioned in the manga?

    Ay: And his hair colour was red?! Dafuq? It plays a major role his hair colour, it won't be given that easily. In the anime on the other hand, there are colours to speak for themselves.
     
         

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