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    The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    From the flashbacks, the manga is implying to us that every single Uchiha in the clan had intentions of a coup and the only innocents were the children. The Uchiha is roughly composed of around 100 and over members. You mean to tell me that not one of these members was fighting for Konoha? The fact that it only seemed as if Kagami, Shisui and Itachi were the only 'good' Uchihas out of a 200+ man clan doesn't seem right to me. You know, none of them came up with the idea of just simply talking to Hiruzen? They were all crazed lunatics who wanted to purge, rape and destroy every Konoha citizen just to get their name in lights? The situation doesn't come off as somewhat realistic. Maybe Obito/Madara lied.
     
         
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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    It's a manga full of ninjas using special powers, of course it's going to be unrealistic.
     
         
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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    But since its real its realistic
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    It is pretty cray!
     
         
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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    Fodders just follow orders, even in real life. When's the last time someone in the army of whatever country you live in stood up against a law their leader enacted because they don't agree with it?
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    It's a manga full of ninjas using special powers, of course it's going to be unrealistic.
    Okay then it isn't plausible then.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    don't you know that naruto story is fictional?
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    No one said they were evil. Think of the Uchiha clan more like a union. The clan leader typically spoke on behalf of the majority, and if he didn't then he could rally the other men up to revolt with him. Regardless though, they all needed to go. If only the ones acting out were killed, it would only serve as a message to those who lived, and would stage continued revolts. Just look at Sasuke, he was the only one allowed to live, and look how that ended up. Imagine 2 dozen Sasukes running around.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    Okay then it isn't plausible then.
    u dnt Understent yoor gremmer
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    it was necessasry and i don't care because its a fiction
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    It's a manga full of ninjas using special powers, of course it's going to be unrealistic.
    It's not his point. We still expect some logic from the manga. The shinobi's powers, they were already stated to us, so we wouldn't contest( just like nobody contests hidan's imortality). However, if naruto got his head ripped of, and kept himself alive, we would contest that, because it goes against the manga's logic that was stipulated before.
    This is his point, he is contesting something that wouldn't make sense even for the manga logic.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Just the sheep following their shepherd.
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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    well Itachi showed in his flashback of his Father Fugaku (head of the Uchiha clan) wanted to overthrow the village.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    From the flashbacks, the manga is implying to us that every single Uchiha in the clan had intentions of a coup and the only innocents were the children. The Uchiha is roughly composed of around 100 and over members. You mean to tell me that not one of these members was fighting for Konoha? The fact that it only seemed as if Kagami, Shisui and Itachi were the only 'good' Uchihas out of a 200+ man clan doesn't seem right to me. You know, none of them came up with the idea of just simply talking to Hiruzen? They were all crazed lunatics who wanted to purge, rape and destroy every Konoha citizen just to get their name in lights? The situation doesn't come off as somewhat realistic. Maybe Obito/Madara lied.
    Bold: Rape? Kill every citizen? Are you drunk, dude? Nobody said they wanted to kill everyone or rape them. They just wanted the justice. ANBU watched them, they weren't trustworthy, it wasn't fair to them.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Uchiha are just the way they are described time to time...
    - Ignorant
    - Proud
    - Selfish
    - and many more negative values...

    And it's a fact that only few of them in decades turn out to be better people...

    Uchiha coup' almost happened so it's realistic...
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    From the flashbacks, the manga is implying to us that every single Uchiha in the clan had intentions of a coup and the only innocents were the children. The Uchiha is roughly composed of around 100 and over members. You mean to tell me that not one of these members was fighting for Konoha? The fact that it only seemed as if Kagami, Shisui and Itachi were the only 'good' Uchihas out of a 200+ man clan doesn't seem right to me. You know, none of them came up with the idea of just simply talking to Hiruzen? They were all crazed lunatics who wanted to purge, rape and destroy every Konoha citizen just to get their name in lights? The situation doesn't come off as somewhat realistic. Maybe Obito/Madara lied.
    dude actually thats human...they start a war for the most ridiculous reasons.. and if there were any people who were against it they were most likely too scared to fight for their opinion... its easier to go with the mass after all ( look at Nazi germani...same principle.. u really think ALL OF THEM were that stupid?? no but it was the easier way...else u get trouble.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    From the flashbacks, the manga is implying to us that every single Uchiha in the clan had intentions of a coup and the only innocents were the children. The Uchiha is roughly composed of around 100 and over members. You mean to tell me that not one of these members was fighting for Konoha? The fact that it only seemed as if Kagami, Shisui and Itachi were the only 'good' Uchihas out of a 200+ man clan doesn't seem right to me. You know, none of them came up with the idea of just simply talking to Hiruzen? They were all crazed lunatics who wanted to purge, rape and destroy every Konoha citizen just to get their name in lights? The situation doesn't come off as somewhat realistic. Maybe Obito/Madara lied.
    dude actually thats human...they start a war for the most ridiculous reasons.. and if there were any people who were against it they were most likely too scared to fight for their opinion... its easier to go with the mass after all ( look at Nazi germani...same principle.. u really think ALL OF THEM were that stupid?? no but it was the easier way...else u get trouble.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

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    Bold: Rape? Kill every citizen? Are you drunk, dude? Nobody said they wanted to kill everyone or rape them. They just wanted the justice. ANBU watched them, they weren't trustworthy, it wasn't fair to them.
    Okay I admit the rape part is overexaggerated but to gain power they would have to start a civil war thus in the process killing some Konoha citizens.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    Okay I admit the rape part is overexaggerated but to gain power they would have to start a civil war thus in the process killing some Konoha citizens.
    I don't think they would kill innocent(civils), only the ninja who would fight with them. Uchiha's are not that bad.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Child Of The Great Empire View Post
    I don't think they would kill innocent(civils), only the ninja who would fight with them. Uchiha's are not that bad.
    True but there would still be losses caused unintentionally due to getting caught in the crossfire.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    its a clan and most clans hold great importants to the clan over most stuff so if uchiha wanted to take over the clansmen will follow only kagami, shisui and itachi broke their ties to the clan and they probably didnt talk it out because they probably felt they wouldnt get anywhere
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    True but there would still be losses caused unintentionally due to getting caught in the crossfire.
    A war is not a war without the losses. It has to happen.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrish View Post
    It's a manga full of ninjas using special powers, of course it's going to be unrealistic.
    Game of Thrones has dragons. Therefore, everything in it is unrealistic. This logic is horrible.
    First, if you have a system of magic, there needs to be logic in this system. Naruto has a good magical system.
    Second, characters and groups of characters' actions have to be realistic and plausible. They have to make sense within their worldview. However, hundreds cannot possibly have the same worldview. That's why it makes no sense that all Uchiha were in on the coup. That's why Danzo's kill them all logic is fail. I find it hard to believe Sasuke's aunt was in on it. However, she died. Presumably she was in it. It makes no sense!
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

    Quote Originally Posted by uchihajaime View Post
    Game of Thrones has dragons. Therefore, everything in it is unrealistic. This logic is horrible.
    First, if you have a system of magic, there needs to be logic in this system. Naruto has a good magical system.
    Second, characters and groups of characters' actions have to be realistic and plausible. They have to make sense within their worldview. However, hundreds cannot possibly have the same worldview. That's why it makes no sense that all Uchiha were in on the coup. That's why Danzo's kill them all logic is fail. I find it hard to believe Sasuke's aunt was in on it. However, she died. Presumably she was in it. It makes no sense!
    Exactly, also Sasuke's mother didn't seem to into the idea either.
     
         

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    Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

    Quote Originally Posted by uchihajaime View Post
    Game of Thrones has dragons. Therefore, everything in it is unrealistic. This logic is horrible.
    First, if you have a system of magic, there needs to be logic in this system. Naruto has a good magical system.
    Second, characters and groups of characters' actions have to be realistic and plausible. They have to make sense within their worldview. However, hundreds cannot possibly have the same worldview. That's why it makes no sense that all Uchiha were in on the coup. That's why Danzo's kill them all logic is fail. I find it hard to believe Sasuke's aunt was in on it. However, she died. Presumably she was in it. It makes no sense!
    Very sensible answer.



    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFang View Post
    Uchiha are just the way they are described time to time...
    - Ignorant
    - Proud
    - Selfish
    - and many more negative values...

    And it's a fact that only few of them in decades turn out to be better people...

    Uchiha coup' almost happened so it's realistic...
    This is just pure idiocy.
     
         

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