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    Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Is pain really a better master and user than both of them in regarding to water nature?
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    No. He is not. Kisame is the Sultan of Suiton.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    No...Kisame god of Water
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Pain has no feats. So this comparison is meaningless
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAncientCenturion View Post
    No. He is not. Kisame is the Sultan of Suiton.


    Tobirama is the best. u_u
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Only kisame and tobirama can make water out of nothing. Kisame can spit out water that is later used for attacks, but tobirama can skip a step and directly make water attacks (possibly a space/time jutsu?)

    Thanks for doing the chacha
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAncientCenturion View Post
    No. He is not. Kisame is the Sultan of Suiton.
    Quote Originally Posted by PainTotheEarth View Post
    No...Kisame god of Water
    How can you prove ?whereas manga says nagato has complete mastery over five natures
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAncientCenturion View Post
    No. He is not. Kisame is the Sultan of Suiton.
    The SoS of our world, huh?

    I agree ... eh.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    How can you prove ?whereas manga says nagato has complete mastery over five natures
    AHAHAH he didn't even use it when he was Bigger
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    AHAHAH he didn't even use it when he was Bigger
    he did not use it thats why....oh please
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    By that logic obito is a better lightning user because he made a thunder storm after giving peon orders.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Derek1st View Post
    Only kisame and tobirama can make water out of nothing.


    Itachi can do it too. Infact any high level ninja with water release can use it.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    Tobirama is the best. u_u
    AA water fountain>Tobrama
    Quote Originally Posted by accept pain View Post
    How can you prove ?whereas manga says nagato has complete mastery over five natures
    Yes, he has control over them.. Does that mean he can use as impressive of suiton as Kisame? Such as a mountain sized water bubble?

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    The SoS of our world, huh?

    I agree ... eh.
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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    -Pein
    • Feats: The Ukojizai no Jutsu
    • Hype: Was said to have mastered it at ten.


    -Tobirama
    • Feats: Flooding the battlefield against Hiruzen
    • Hype: Said to be the strongest Suiton user.


    -Kisame
    • Feats: Far too many to count.
    • Hype: Nothing much.


    No matter how you look at it, both are far above Pein both feat- and hype-wise. So no, he's not superior in that area.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerkak View Post


    Itachi can do it too. Infact any high level ninja with water release can use it.
    It came from his body

    Tobirama solos
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed Prince View Post
    It came from his body

    Tobirama solos
    ........ Tobirama has only shown two suiton jutsu... One that he spits water out, and the other where he makes use of the water he just summoned from his mouth....
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed Prince View Post
    It came from his body

    Tobirama solos
    That's creating it out of nowhere with chakra....like the fireball jitsu. He didn't use water laying around. He created it.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAncientCenturion View Post
    ........ Tobirama has only shown two suiton jutsu... One that he spits water out, and the other where he completely destroyed Kisame....
    Agreed.+ Rep
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Kisamei and Mei(stoped Madara's fire ) are the best by feats and Tobirama is the best by hype........
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    Agreed.+ Rep
    You know I was down playing his reputation, right?
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    Feats:
    Kisame is far above everyone else...

    Hype:
    Tobirama the Senju...
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    You know I was down playing his reputation, right?
    But you said he'd destroy Kisame?
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    But you said he'd get destroyed by Kisame?
    Yes, I did say that.
     
         

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

    According to Wiki under "Abilities", a holder of a Rinnegan has the potential to be able to master the 5 basic elements. We can also safely assume that Pain's water ability is advanced to the jutsu he could activate Rain tiger at will. But since we haven't seen more of his Suton feats, let's just say kisame and tobirama take this.
     
         
    Last edited by Awkward Linguist; 09-01-2013 at 06:33 PM.

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    Re: Pain> tobirama and kisame

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    It came from his body

    Tobirama solos
    tobirama's came from the atmosphere. no one can make it from nothing.
     
         

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