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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

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    Well...how he got KCM is more of an asspull than him going into BM this chapter. Minato's half of Kurama seems like it is still linked to Naruto's half, even though they are in separate bodies. I think their minds are linked, either subconsciously or consciously, so that basically means since Naruto's kurama is good now, minato's kurama subconsciously turned good also. The only requirement to go into BM is to work together with the bijuu and to unlock the "gate" so the bijuu's chakra can flow freely, and since minato's kurama already wanted to work together, because he's linked to Naruto's kurama, it would be pretty simple for minato to unlock that gate, therefore letting his Kurama's chakra run free, allowing him to enter BM.
    No. There is no evidence whatsoever the 2 halves are linked.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Several people already mentioned this. When someone is sealed with the reaper death seal the user and the object(s) that are sealed spend eternity together in the death reaper's stomach. Most of the time, they are enemies and spend it fighting. At the same time it is possible for them to solve their problems, since well, it is eternity. Minato was in there for 17 years, and he was considered a genius, and has been shown to be very skilled with chakra manipulation. He could have coerced and trained with the other Kurama for quite a while. Obito, I don't really have a good explanation for. Even with new powers one just can't understand all ninjutsu like that. You can have the ability to, but not just know it all of a sudden. That part makes no sense. The taming part may, since the Juubi doesn't have much of a consciousness, you would only have to overpower it, and that's it. Again the Minato part can make sense, and I don't find much sense for Obito at all. Take my response as you wish.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    You're an absolute joke. People have given serious answers and you deflect them. It's pretty obvious what the answer is but you're too stubborn to realize what it is.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by altaire uchiha View Post
    Its dumb. Naruto has to go through all this training and take all this time and coercing the kyuubi his whole life to get him to cooperate, Minato just knows how to turn BM and KCM on and off like a light switch. Obito too. Just instantly mastered sealing, taming juubi, mastering all these different modes, all the jutsus, he just cheat codes the shit. Dumb. The powering up crap needs to stop. I want ninja techniques again.
    Dark Kurama was not convinced thanks to Minato, it was Naruto all the way.

    Well, for the sake of fairness, I would remind you that two of the greatest powerups Sasuke got were thanks to sugar daddies and not his own efforts. Yes, I'm talking about Curse Mark and EMS. So don't get angry if you see these freebies in the battlefield.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Minato befriended Kurama while inside the shinigami, so there is no reason he shouldn't be able to use that mode since he has the same seal as Naruto and full cooperation of the kyuubi. Naruto never trained for KCM or BM. He beat up Kurama for the first and made Kurama go tsundere for the latter.

    Obito on the other hand has the blessed eyes that makes all bijuu his *****. Juubi however took some effort which is why it took a bit of willpower before he could gain control. Madara knows a lot about bijuu, jink, and So6P thanks to the tablet and info past down through his clan who are direct descendant of the 1st jink. How do you think he know about rinnegan abilities and Infinite Tsukiyomi?

    If you don't like these answers feel free to pout like the child you paint the NB to be, but it all fits within the world Kishi created.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    If you think Minato can't seperate Kurama's chakra and seperate the evil will your really underestimating him. As to Bijuu Mode dark kurama saw how Naruto and his other half are friends. Kurama isn't evil he just doesn't want to be treated as a weapon. Minato recognized kurama as a being by calling him his name. It's not a surprise that Minato could enter Bijuu Mode.

    My thing is why doesn't Minato form change like Naruto's when he enters Bijuu Mode. The only thing that changes is his eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    I guess Minato doesn't follow rules. He's too bosS for that anyways. I think you're just mad because the father & son duo are more powerful than the Uchiha brother's duo.

    Whatever, just enjoy the manga
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by altaire uchiha View Post
    No. There is no evidence whatsoever the 2 halves are linked.
    Im sorry but I don't see why it is so unreasonable to think they are linked. They are the same being after all, just split into two different chakra types for the time being. Other bijuu can feel and hear different bijuu, why wouldn't the halves of the same bijuu be linked the same way.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by boshans View Post
    Im sorry but I don't see why it is so unreasonable to think they are linked. They are the same being after all, just split into two different chakra types for the time being. Other bijuu can feel and hear different bijuu, why wouldn't the halves of the same bijuu be linked the same way.
    Because one was sealed away inside the Shinigami and if they were wouldn't Minato have already known about all of Naruto's progress. The other bijuu's couldn't speak to Naruto after they were shoved back in the Mezzo. They both seemed to be pretty surprised of how far Naruto and Kurama have come.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by ToadSageNaruto View Post
    considering he was sealed inside the reaper for naruto's entire life along with his half of kurama, him having control isn't a big stretch.
    The inside of the reaper isnt a country club. They werent in thier chatting it up and punching beef sides in the freezer. Theyre sealed, they come out and dont even know whats happened.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by boshans View Post
    Im sorry but I don't see why it is so unreasonable to think they are linked. They are the same being after all, just split into two different chakra types for the time being. Other bijuu can feel and hear different bijuu, why wouldn't the halves of the same bijuu be linked the same way.
    Were not talking about hearing other bijuu when they touch, youre saying since the bijuu can communicate then thats the same as them sharing the same philosophy and outlook on people and life, share the same attitudes? No. One side of Kurama thinking something doesnt make the other side instantly sync up. If thats the case nothing in the story alludes to it. Why would the two halves talk to each other if they have some wireless connection to each other, thered be no reason.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by SupErAkaTsuKI View Post
    I guess Minato doesn't follow rules. He's too bosS for that anyways. I think you're just mad because the father & son duo are more powerful than the Uchiha brother's duo.

    Whatever, just enjoy the manga
    I take it your really young because you talk as if these characters were real, or you were inside the story or something.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    This manga runs on Plot no Jutsu. I am not surprised.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by altaire uchiha View Post
    I take it your really young because you talk as if these characters were real, or you were inside the story or something.
    when is this person gonna be banned?
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    He does have inhuman reflexes. Maybe he mastered it all in this mind, spans of years in a mere second.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    I need genma's toothpick
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by altaire uchiha View Post
    The inside of the reaper isnt a country club. They werent in thier chatting it up and punching beef sides in the freezer. Theyre sealed, they come out and dont even know whats happened.
    You have no proof of what it's like inside the death reaper seal at all. While alternately there is proof of Orochimaru, Minato, Kushina, and tailed-beasts consciousness being active while inside different seals and even able to perceive things outside it.

    You seem to think being sealed is like being frozen in carbonite, but I think it's more like being chained up in a solitary cell w/o need of food or water. So in actuality ALL Minato and Kurama had to do was talk to each other. However they had no idea what was going on in the outside their cell.
     
         
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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by altaire uchiha View Post
    Were not talking about hearing other bijuu when they touch, youre saying since the bijuu can communicate then thats the same as them sharing the same philosophy and outlook on people and life, share the same attitudes? No. One side of Kurama thinking something doesnt make the other side instantly sync up. If thats the case nothing in the story alludes to it. Why would the two halves talk to each other if they have some wireless connection to each other, thered be no reason.
    I'm not saying both kurama could have heard each other while minato was in the death God, or when he was not even close to Naruto, I basically mean since they are close to each other now, their feelings/whatever can mix, one can influence the other. It's not like with different bijuu, they are the same being. Kurama and gyuki were telepathically talking to each other when naruto and bee weren't even touching, and that's two separate bijuus. Separate halves of the same bijuu can obviously do the same thing, I don't see why their minds wouldn't begin to meld either.I don't know, I'm just trying to come up with a reason why the yin half(darker half) of kurama just so easily joined forces with minato. Naruto giving that one little speech isn't a good enough reason in my mind, and plus, tailed beasts don't change with words, they change with actions. That's why I think yang kurama is somehow influencing yin kurama.
     
         

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    Re: Love how Minato just skips any kind of training here

    Quote Originally Posted by boshans View Post
    I don't know, I'm just trying to come up with a reason why the yin half(darker half) of kurama just so easily joined forces with minato. Naruto giving that one little speech isn't a good enough reason in my mind, and plus, tailed beasts don't change with words, they change with actions. That's why I think yang kurama is somehow influencing yin kurama.
    I think the obvious answer is that their consciousness still were active within the shinigami. So over 16 years Minato was able to win over Dark Kurama before they were released.
     
         

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