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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Touketsu View Post
    All Sasuke does is stand in one spot and launch attacks. Naruto actually uses taijutsu and moves around. I think he would beat Sasuke easily. PLus now he is going to learn to control the kyuubi. Major ownage is on the way. Hopefully Sasuke's EMS will be amazing to show a good fight. Looking back on the Pein fight. Naruto pretty much killed every one of them. He launched a big ass summon into the air with strength alone. I'm also watching the anime every week via crunchyroll and seeing sage mode on the anime is pretty badass. Not gonna lie.

    yeah sage mode on the show is pretty kicka$$ but man idk sasuke is gonna be sick way better then nay uchiha before him
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM


    Naruto was able to get inside pain's 5 sec interval....so tell me, how he isnt fast

    ppl keep sayin Naruto didnt defeat pain....then who did??? Naruto did defeat pain
    he killed all his *puppets* and the only reason y he didnt kill the real pain was bcuz
    he killed himself and he didnt want to be another killer(which seems kinda funny to me)

    he was also able to with stand Pain's attack with just shadow clones...pain
    being the head of atatsuki means he isnt a push over and is stronger than
    Raikage........

    Naruto is way faster/stronger than Sauske he always has been
    without the sharingan Sauske is reduced pretty much nothing....Kakashi cannot
    keep up with Naruto in any aspect of t-jutsu....speed nor strength...n-jutsu and g-jutsu
    are the only aspects kakashi has over Naruto

    Naruto may not be book smart but he is battle smart which he prove in his battle
    with kakuza and pain

    Naruto is without a doubt a top shinobi......dont belittle him....he'll only prove u wrong
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoUzumakiMinato View Post

    Naruto was able to get inside pain's 5 sec interval....so tell me, how he isnt fast

    ppl keep sayin Naruto didnt defeat pain....then who did??? Naruto did defeat pain
    he killed all his *puppets* and the only reason y he didnt kill the real pain was bcuz
    he killed himself and he didnt want to be another killer(which seems kinda funny to me)

    he was also able to with stand Pain's attack with just shadow clones...pain
    being the head of atatsuki means he isnt a push over and is stronger than
    Raikage........

    Naruto is way faster/stronger than Sauske he always has been
    without the sharingan Sauske is reduced pretty much nothing....Kakashi cannot
    keep up with Naruto in any aspect of t-jutsu....speed nor strength...n-jutsu and g-jutsu
    are the only aspects kakashi has over Naruto

    Naruto may not be book smart but he is battle smart which he prove in his battle
    with kakuza and pain

    Naruto is without a doubt a top shinobi......dont belittle him....he'll only prove u wrong
    god lemma own u will quick did u forget that pain was not fighing with the intent 2 kill and he had naruto pinned down and done untill naruto went 8tails now stop making fanboyish post
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Retardation View Post
    god lemma own u will quick did u forget that pain was not fighing with the intent 2 kill and he had naruto pinned down and done untill naruto went 8tails now stop making fanboyish post
    Let me own you *will quick* It does not matter if he was or not Naruto would have pushed himself to the max if he thought he was going to die and do the same thing. Shut up with all the Fan Boy hating. Your on this website taking your time writing on these forums and reading the manga every week. FYI you are a fanboy too. O-W-N-E-D.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    I still don't see how people fail to see how Pain could have killed Naruto had he wanted to.....

    This is the bottom line. Look at this page. And realize that at this point in the battle Naruto has lost.

    Naruto 435 page 014 | One Manga

    What you have here is God realm pinning Naruto's hands to the ground with one of his chakra spikes. Had he wanted to kill Naruto, those hands could have very well been Naruto's head. Simple as that. No argument around it.

    Pain, after taking out Konoha's most elite shinobi, then turning the entire village into a crater, was confronted by a prepared Naruto who had 2 sage mode shadow clones back on Mt. Myozokuban (most likely completely spelled wrong), without his strongest technique for the start of the battle, was able to defeat Naruto.

    I'm not trying to say Naruto isn't strong, because obviously he is. But to say hes stronger than Pain at this point is just wrong. Maybe when he learns to control the kyuubi he will become stronger, but until he does that hes simply not on that level.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    I still don't see how people fail to see how Pain could have killed Naruto had he wanted to.....

    This is the bottom line. Look at this page. And realize that at this point in the battle Naruto has lost.

    Naruto 435 page 014 | One Manga

    What you have here is God realm pinning Naruto's hands to the ground with one of his chakra spikes. Had he wanted to kill Naruto, those hands could have very well been Naruto's head. Simple as that. No argument around it.

    Pain, after taking out Konoha's most elite shinobi, then turning the entire village into a crater, was confronted by a prepared Naruto who had 2 sage mode shadow clones back on Mt. Myozokuban (most likely completely spelled wrong), without his strongest technique for the start of the battle, was able to defeat Naruto.

    I'm not trying to say Naruto isn't strong, because obviously he is. But to say hes stronger than Pain at this point is just wrong. Maybe when he learns to control the kyuubi he will become stronger, but until he does that hes simply not on that level.
    Pain dosn't kill Naruto for the sake of talking to him (and the story line) Pain wanted Naruto to know a little about his pain and wanted to know his answer to the circle of revenge because he had atleast a little respect for Naruto because they were both students of Jiraiya, plus I think Kyuubi would of stepped in before Naruto died.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by TimUsher View Post
    plus I think Kyuubi would of stepped in before Naruto died.
    Exactly. He would have not died and the same thing would have happened even without hinata.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Touketsu View Post
    Exactly. He would have not died and the same thing would have happened even without hinata.

    And how do you know this?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    I still don't see how people fail to see how Pain could have killed Naruto had he wanted to.....

    This is the bottom line. Look at this page. And realize that at this point in the battle Naruto has lost.

    Naruto 435 page 014 | One Manga

    What you have here is God realm pinning Naruto's hands to the ground with one of his chakra spikes. Had he wanted to kill Naruto, those hands could have very well been Naruto's head. Simple as that. No argument around it.

    Pain, after taking out Konoha's most elite shinobi, then turning the entire village into a crater, was confronted by a prepared Naruto who had 2 sage mode shadow clones back on Mt. Myozokuban (most likely completely spelled wrong), without his strongest technique for the start of the battle, was able to defeat Naruto.

    I'm not trying to say Naruto isn't strong, because obviously he is. But to say hes stronger than Pain at this point is just wrong. Maybe when he learns to control the kyuubi he will become stronger, but until he does that hes simply not on that level.
    Agree with you completely. Naruto isn't as strong as Pein. Atleast not yet.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    I still don't see how people fail to see how Pain could have killed Naruto had he wanted to.....

    This is the bottom line. Look at this page. And realize that at this point in the battle Naruto has lost.

    Naruto 435 page 014 | One Manga

    What you have here is God realm pinning Naruto's hands to the ground with one of his chakra spikes. Had he wanted to kill Naruto, those hands could have very well been Naruto's head. Simple as that. No argument around it.

    Pain, after taking out Konoha's most elite shinobi, then turning the entire village into a crater, was confronted by a prepared Naruto who had 2 sage mode shadow clones back on Mt. Myozokuban (most likely completely spelled wrong), without his strongest technique for the start of the battle, was able to defeat Naruto.

    I'm not trying to say Naruto isn't strong, because obviously he is. But to say hes stronger than Pain at this point is just wrong. Maybe when he learns to control the kyuubi he will become stronger, but until he does that hes simply not on that level.

    This is exactly wat im talking about when ppl try and take away
    Narutos win.....Who killed Pain??...Im pretty sure it was Naruto

    U say he was very well prepared.....well then tell me who could
    of defeated Pain without knowing some of his secrets?? Itachi?? Kisame??
    Madara?? and dare i say it......Sauske??

    and b4 he had Naruto pinned to the ground.....Naruto took out every single one
    of the Pain "puppets" so how is he not on Pains level.....he took out 1 with
    just a punch.....and 1 with a regular rasengan

    In this battle Naruto proved that he was on Pain's level by defeating him
    Nobody else did....there was no assasin lurking in the shadows......there were
    no tricks or smokin mirrors.....just Naruto and Pain

    "Pain could of killed Naruto when he had him pinned".....but he didnt and that
    was his mistake

    Im not tryin to be a fanboy im just simply sayin Naruto surpassed Pain
    when he defeated him...........and stop tryin to take it away from him
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    I just want to put something out there for consideration... Naruto in Sage mode fell off the cliff thingy he was meditating in Myobokuzan and was unhurt. He realised that he was basically invulnerable. And thats why he could use the Rasenshuriken without injury and even throw it. Add the kyuubi's chakra to it like Naruto was able to sync by the end of the fight... and well... the Raikage might not be able to harm Naruto with his attacks... He will heal instantly even if he does deal damage.

    In that case Naruto would win.
    not a bad idea. if raikage was an ordinary nin, you could be right, naruto's defence might be to much to handle by simple physical attacks. but raikage is insanely strong and can strengthen his attacks even further through his raiton armor, he was able to simply destroy susano'os ribs by punching it. if someone would have been hit by something like that blow in a vital area, he would be dead.
    apart from that, falling of a cliff seems to be relative in the narutoverse :
    Naruto 434 page 17 | One Manga
    Naruto 462 page 03 | One Manga here raikage destroys juugo's shield by sole strength (and an uncomplete raiton armor)

    @naruto vs. pain:
    naruto beat a weakened pain who couldnt use his strongest weapon till most of his team was dead. and even therefore he need to go 8-tails
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Revan View Post
    not a bad idea. if raikage was an ordinary nin, you could be right, naruto's defence might be to much to handle by simple physical attacks. but raikage is insanely strong and can strengthen his attacks even further through his raiton armor, he was able to simply destroy susano'os ribs by punching it. if someone would have been hit by something like that blow in a vital area, he would be dead.
    apart from that, falling of a cliff seems to be relative in the narutoverse :
    Naruto 434 page 17 | One Manga
    Naruto 462 page 03 | One Manga here raikage destroys juugo's shield by sole strength (and an uncomplete raiton armor)

    @naruto vs. pain:
    naruto beat a weakened pain who couldnt use his strongest weapon till most of his team was dead. and even therefore he need to go 8-tails
    Naruto beat Pain and thats that, the fox is his to use as he sees fit. and the Raikage broke an incomplet susano'o, i would like to see him take on susano'o now
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

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    This is exactly wat im talking about when ppl try and take away
    Narutos win.....Who killed Pain??...Im pretty sure it was Naruto

    U say he was very well prepared.....well then tell me who could
    of defeated Pain without knowing some of his secrets?? Itachi?? Kisame??
    Madara?? and dare i say it......Sauske??

    and b4 he had Naruto pinned to the ground.....Naruto took out every single one
    of the Pain "puppets" so how is he not on Pains level.....he took out 1 with
    just a punch.....and 1 with a regular rasengan

    In this battle Naruto proved that he was on Pain's level by defeating him
    Nobody else did....there was no assasin lurking in the shadows......there were
    no tricks or smokin mirrors.....just Naruto and Pain

    "Pain could of killed Naruto when he had him pinned".....but he didnt and that
    was his mistake

    Im not tryin to be a fanboy im just simply sayin Naruto surpassed Pain
    when he defeated him...........and stop tryin to take it away from him
    Umm...Naruto never killed Pain. Nagato sacrificed himself to revive the people of Konoha. Let me ask you. Do you honestly think that the real body of Nagato was useless? Even when Naruto arrives there neither Konan or Nagato seem flustered. Instead of doing so Nagato listens to Naruto's answer and SACRIFICES himself.


    Who could defeat pain without knowing any of his secrets? I'm tempted to say nobody. From what we've seen I believe Nagato is easily the strongest Shinobi seen so far. No other shinobi would have been capable of EASILY destroying the village of Konoha. But besides the knowledge Naruto had, he also had the two clones back in toad land gathering sage chakra. This let him TRIPLE the amount of time he spent in sage mode.

    Naruto took out some of the puppets before God Realm had the ability to use Shinrei Tensai again, so he was fighting against Pain when Pain's strongest ability wasn't usable.

    "Pain could of killed Naruto when he had him pinned".....but he didnt and that
    was his mistake
    ....I'm pretty sure you just agreed with me. What you just told me there is that you agree that if Pain wanted to, he could have killed Naruto in that moment. His mistake was choosing not to. If he was strong enough to kill someone else but chose not to, it doesn't mean he isn't still stronger than that person.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Touketsu View Post
    All Sasuke does is stand in one spot and launch attacks. Naruto actually uses taijutsu and moves around. I think he would beat Sasuke easily. PLus now he is going to learn to control the kyuubi. Major ownage is on the way. Hopefully Sasuke's EMS will be amazing to show a good fight. Looking back on the Pein fight. Naruto pretty much killed every one of them. He launched a big ass summon into the air with strength alone. I'm also watching the anime every week via crunchyroll and seeing sage mode on the anime is pretty badass. Not gonna lie.
    gaara vs lee was the same but gaara still pwnd lee... so that doesnt count
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    Umm...Naruto never killed Pain. Nagato sacrificed himself to revive the people of Konoha. Let me ask you. Do you honestly think that the real body of Nagato was useless? Even when Naruto arrives there neither Konan or Nagato seem flustered. Instead of doing so Nagato listens to Naruto's answer and SACRIFICES himself.

    At the condition he was in.......yes he was....there was no way he
    could of defeated Naruto if it turned into a real fight....Naruto showed he
    could combine his sage with his kyuubi and if he had acted on his impulse
    he would of ripped Nagato to shreds


    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    Who could defeat pain without knowing any of his secrets? I'm tempted to say nobody. From what we've seen I believe Nagato is easily the strongest Shinobi seen so far. No other shinobi would have been capable of EASILY destroying the village of Konoha. But besides the knowledge Naruto had, he also had the two clones back in toad land gathering sage chakra. This let him TRIPLE the amount of time he spent in sage mode.

    Okay......but Naruto was able to....was he not??? did he not beat all the
    puppets??.......Were the rest of the puppets(besides the lead one) not gifted
    with amazing abilities?? did they have plenty of chances to pin Naruto down??
    all the answers to these questions are YES......and Naruto never managed to use all the clones he had....they were disrupted by the kyuubi's chakra


    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    Naruto took out some of the puppets before God Realm had the ability to use Shinrei Tensai again, so he was fighting against Pain when Pain's strongest ability wasn't usable.

    That takes me back to one of the questions i asked earlier....were the
    other puppets capable ninja?? they had incredible abilities....like the one
    who could absorb chakra.....and he tried and was turn into a statue
    and dont forget Naruto was able to figure out which one could revive
    and devised a strategy to take him/her out....so his battle smarts are
    getting better


    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    ....I'm pretty sure you just agreed with me. What you just told me there is that you agree that if Pain wanted to, he could have killed Naruto in that moment. His mistake was choosing not to. If he was strong enough to kill someone else but chose not to, it doesn't mean he isn't still stronger than that person.

    Yes he COULD OF(key word COULD) but even if he had tried that doesnt
    mean he would of succeeded....the moment Naruto saw that black blade
    speeding toward his face....the kyuubi would of awoken and would of did
    the same thing....that Hinata accomplished.....the only thing that was
    different was Naruto FINALLY realized Hinata had feelings for him
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoUzumakiMinato View Post

    At the condition he was in.......yes he was....there was no way he
    could of defeated Naruto if it turned into a real fight....Naruto showed he
    could combine his sage with his kyuubi and if he had acted on his impulse
    he would of ripped Nagato to shreds
    Nagato has the rinnegan, the yes that were said to give birth to ninjutsu. At the time of the meeting he had enough chakra to revive half of Konoha and heal the rest. You honestly think with all that chakra Nagato was useless? You forget that the REAL Nagato was able to kill Hanzo the Salamander, and kill many konoha ANBU/Rain ANBU and force Danzo and Hanzo to retreat. And this was all when he was still a teen! Even with the threat of Naruto's Sage/Kyuubi mixture Nagato wasn't worried. At one point Konan said something along the lines of "Nagato just hurry up and-" before she was cut off by a calm Nagato who said something to the effect of "No, I want to hear his answer first." This is clearly showing that Nagato has something he can do, but would rather hear Naruto's answer.




    Okay......but Naruto was able to....was he not??? did he not beat all the
    puppets??.......Were the rest of the puppets(besides the lead one) not gifted
    with amazing abilities?? did they have plenty of chances to pin Naruto down??
    all the answers to these questions are YES......and Naruto never managed to use all the clones he had....they were disrupted by the kyuubi's chakra
    Well my argument is that Naruto didn't actually defeat Nagato.....so no.....I don't count having your opponent sacrifice himself to revive your village's people as "defeating". Shikamaru DEFEATED Hidan, Sasuke DEFEATED Danzo, Kakashi DEFEATED Zabuza, Choji DEFEATED Jirobi, etc.



    That takes me back to one of the questions i asked earlier....were the
    other puppets capable ninja?? they had incredible abilities....like the one
    who could absorb chakra.....and he tried and was turn into a statue
    and dont forget Naruto was able to figure out which one could revive
    and devised a strategy to take him/her out....so his battle smarts are
    getting better
    All of the abilities that the puppets had were due to the Rinnegan, not the actual ninja. The fact that the Yahiko puppet could use Shinrai Tensei is proof of that. But I agree that Naruto's tactics are improving, he doesn't just rush into situations any more.




    Yes he COULD OF(key word COULD) but even if he had tried that doesnt
    mean he would of succeeded....the moment Naruto saw that black blade
    speeding toward his face....the kyuubi would of awoken and would of did
    the same thing....that Hinata accomplished.....the only thing that was
    different was Naruto FINALLY realized Hinata had feelings for him

    The word COULD is a key word and supports my argument. If Nagato was able to put Naruto in a position where death was imminent, that means Nagato had won the fight. Whether he decided not to land the fatal blow because of any reason is irrelevant unless that reason was because Naruto physically prevented him from doing it.

    And we have no idea whether the Kyuubi would have saved him and its impossible to know whether that would actually happen, unless it actually happened. Usually it takes a large emotional stress to cause the Kyuubi to come out, hence Hinata being killed. We have not however seen the Kyuubi come out in a situation where Naruto is about to be killed in a split second attack. We have seen it happen when he is dangerously close to dying because of injuries or running low on chakra, but not when he went from okay to death in the blink of an eye, which would have been the case had that rod been aimed at his head.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Both Naruto and Nagato are strong shinobis and it can be said that they are both destined child though their role is quite different. Before Naruto turns 8-tails, Nagato had the upper hand, however after Naruto had conversation with his father, Naruto had the upper hand. Both of them had the chance to kill his opponents but spared. This resulted in bringing back the lives of many shinobis. Nagato had a dream but couldn't achieve it. So, he entrusted his dreams to Naruto. If we entrust to do something to others which we can't, we can say that the person is stronger than us. When we say stronger, it doesn't literally means physically or in terms of fighting skill, it also includes the mindset, the morals, sincerity, etc. In this regard, Naruto is stronger than Nagato.(thanks to his stupidity :D)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    I was going over the chunin exams and what I realized was Naruto beat both Neji and Gaara in the same day. Both have never lost to anyone in a fight and were the people who were even stronger than Lee, who when he first met Naruto destroyed him with one leg sweep.

    Later destroyed Pain who has never lost a fight. In a fight to the death Naruto will prevail against anyone. Also since he himself is around Kakashi's level and with Sage mode he could go against anyone. Mastering the kyuubi would but in a league of his own where only a select number of shinobi have entered.

    Madara
    Sasuke
    Minato
    Itachi
    Jirayia
    Nagato
    The sage of the 6 paths (his sons)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    I was going over the chunin exams and what I realized was Naruto beat both Neji and Gaara in the same day. Both have never lost to anyone in a fight and were the people who were even stronger than Lee, who when he first met Naruto destroyed him with one leg sweep.
    Naruto beating Neji and Gaara in the same day. Good work. I've never think that way.

    To beat two top Genins(Konoha and Sand) in a single day is something very impressive.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is by far the Most Powerful Ninja ATM

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotiq View Post
    Nagato has the rinnegan, the yes that were said to give birth to ninjutsu. At the time of the meeting he had enough chakra to revive half of Konoha and heal the rest. You honestly think with all that chakra Nagato was useless? You forget that the REAL Nagato was able to kill Hanzo the Salamander, and kill many konoha ANBU/Rain ANBU and force Danzo and Hanzo to retreat. And this was all when he was still a teen! Even with the threat of Naruto's Sage/Kyuubi mixture Nagato wasn't worried. At one point Konan said something along the lines of "Nagato just hurry up and-" before she was cut off by a calm Nagato who said something to the effect of "No, I want to hear his answer first." This is clearly showing that Nagato has something he can do, but would rather hear Naruto's answer.





    Well my argument is that Naruto didn't actually defeat Nagato.....so no.....I don't count having your opponent sacrifice himself to revive your village's people as "defeating". Shikamaru DEFEATED Hidan, Sasuke DEFEATED Danzo, Kakashi DEFEATED Zabuza, Choji DEFEATED Jirobi, etc.




    All of the abilities that the puppets had were due to the Rinnegan, not the actual ninja. The fact that the Yahiko puppet could use Shinrai Tensei is proof of that. But I agree that Naruto's tactics are improving, he doesn't just rush into situations any more.






    The word COULD is a key word and supports my argument. If Nagato was able to put Naruto in a position where death was imminent, that means Nagato had won the fight. Whether he decided not to land the fatal blow because of any reason is irrelevant unless that reason was because Naruto physically prevented him from doing it.

    And we have no idea whether the Kyuubi would have saved him and its impossible to know whether that would actually happen, unless it actually happened. Usually it takes a large emotional stress to cause the Kyuubi to come out, hence Hinata being killed. We have not however seen the Kyuubi come out in a situation where Naruto is about to be killed in a split second attack. We have seen it happen when he is dangerously close to dying because of injuries or running low on chakra, but not when he went from okay to death in the blink of an eye, which would have been the case had that rod been aimed at his head.
    Man youre desperately to prove youre not a fanboy . And guess what ? YOURE NOT A FANBOY STOP IT! Neither that other guy. Naruto beaten up pain and thats it ! The battle was over he won no arguments how. A win is a win no matter how you obtain it . And nagato tried to kill naruto when he was in front of him but he couldn't because of kyuubi and sage combined .

    And another think you all say that "naruto was pinned he would been dead then" .... IF THE STORY WAS ON THAT SIDE , NARUTO WOULD HAVE TURNED KYUUBI LONGGGG AGO ..... Ahh and yea ...neither sasuke with his ems could beat up pain . No one can with only RAW POWER ( as far as we could see till now ) . Thats why naruto won , because he has that spark in him , that gives hope and strenght in combat , not just raw power . Thats all i had to say , hope you understand that and we should let this thread to die and rest in peace .......
     
         

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